Euphoric atheists

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Admittedly I do still watch a few atheist channels: The Thinking Atheist, logicked, Armored Skeptic, The Bible Reloaded (mostly for the Chick tracts), and occasionally John Smith (his "voice acting" can get on my nerves). Most of the time I just go to them for entertainment or background noise. TTA is the only podcast that actually engages my brain. On the rare occasion I get into a theological debate it's the same thing - I'm just bored.

On a serious note, while I am glad there is a growing secular voice in America, some American atheists aren't much better than bronies. Much like bronies inject ponies into everything these atheists inject religion into everything. They also make a lot of amateur YouTube videos. I went my whole life without believing in god and didn't even realize it was a big deal until I was out of high school. Whatever happened to just not giving a fuck, ya know?

@Olooger I rated your post autistic because I think it's in really bad taste to call dictators and mass murderers lolcows. Nick Bate is about as bad as you can get while still being entertaining.
 
I HATE that I can't hate watch AA without ruining my youtube suggested videos.


TBH I don't understand how somebody can be atheist, but I can completely understand why somebody would be agnostic.
I dislike militant atheists as much as christians who proselytise.
That said I live in a predominantly Catholic & Anglican country. I went to a very religious school, it was never even hinted that Genesis was fact based, we were taught the theory of evolution. So my experience with religion is very different from somebody who lives in an area with a lot of southern baptists.
 
Militant Atheism is another identity choice, just like Christianity. Once you're making a lifestyle out of your beliefs that aggressively reinforces an 'us vs them' mentality, you should probably start reassessing what kind of person you've become. Bashing Christians will just make them more Christian -- look at the history of religious persecution, receiving hate can be construed as a romanticized form of martyrism and generally serves to reinforce the beliefs they already have. If someone genuinely wants to make a positive effect on the world through non-belief and help others question the nature of existence maybe it's wiser to actually respect them as fellow human beings and engage with them as equals. Otherwise it's monkeys throwing shit for all of eternity.
 
What you believe in has nothing to do with how intelligent you are.

One of my professors was telling me about a teacher he studied under himself back in Lebanon. The guy had a Ph.D in electrical engineering from MIT (which they presumably don't just hand out) but he was also part of a sect of Islam that believed quite literally that the world was flat.

People are weird like that.
 
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I remember going through my athiest phase. thankfully it was shortlived and became agnostic.

Athough I was an Athiest, I hated the people who dismissed the bible as just "some dumb book" and that humanity will one day will stop believeing in religion altogether.
The latter got me especially mad because these people don't realize that humanity will always worship something, be it god, the goverment or their pop science idols.
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I REALLY don't want to get into this but the word Agnostic has been bastardized from it's original meaning quite a lot.

The term "agnostic" is not a position, it's a world view. The term states "I think knowing if the supernatural exists is unknown".

The problem is that it's not specific to a God. You can be a Christian and be agnostic toward Big Foot. Or be an Athiest and be agnostic toward dieties. It's why there's an expression called an "Agnostic Atheist" who does not believe in God but thinks knowing if he exists is unknown. By this line of logic almost every Atheist is an Agnostic. There are also agnostic theists who believe in a God but also think knowing if he actually exists is not knowable.

The point I'm trying to make is you either believe there is one or you do not. Saying "I don't know" isn't called being agnostic it's called being on the fence. "going through my athiest phase" is not a valid statement because the only way to not be an atheist is to become a theist. This is similar to saying "I went through my heterosexual phase. But now I'm more of a sexually curious person" when the latter statement doesn't reject the former.


tl;dr both terms are not mutually exclusive.
 
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DawnMachine dijo:
What you believe in has nothing to do with how intelligent you are.

One of my professors was telling me about a teacher he studied under himself back in Lebanon. The guy had a Ph.D in electrical engineering from MIT (which they presumably don't just hand out) but he was also part of a sect of Islam that believed quite literally that the world was flat.

People are weird like that.
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This!

My great uncle was an extremely intelligent person and well known mid century architect. He joined The Family(not the Charles Manson one, but still a cult)
 
That first youtube video is fucking intense. Every time he spoke or the editor made some wacky effect I felt my heading dropping in despair. I tapped out when he put on gloves.
 
chimpchan dijo:
This!

My great uncle was an extremely intelligent person and well known mid century architect. He joined The Family(not the Charles Manson one, but still a cult)
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YEP. Seems no matter how intelligent or controlled someone may seem, there is still a chance they are have a festering vulnerability that will allow them to suspend their disbelief when the opportunity arises. A lot of it seems to be interwoven with the desire to meaningfully participate in a community, which is why a lot of exceptionally intelligent people join weird orthodox religions or cults - everyone wants to find their place, and depending on the intensity of their desire they will slather heavy layers of cognitive dissonance to make that happen. Smart people do silly things sometimes too.
 
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When you have politicians who attempt to push things like mandatory prayer in schools and ban things like teaching evolution to children, then it stops being a case of "hey lets all not give a fuck"
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Oh, you should definitely give a fuckton of fucks about that. I'm just against atheists who are intolerant of religion in general.

chimpchan dijo:
TBH I don't understand how somebody can be atheist, but I can completely understand why somebody would be agnostic.
I dislike militant atheists as much as christians who proselytise.
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Most atheists are agnostic. I consider myself a hard atheist with respect to the Abrahamic god, largely because of the textual evidence, but even then I wouldn't say that I literally know he doesn't exist. I'd just put it at a 99.9% probability based on my current understanding of the evidence. With other gods - and especially deist gods - the best I can do is shrug.

I feel like I'm rambling here, so I guess I'll finish by saying I don't care what people believe, just what they do with their beliefs. It's one thing to believe in Jesus. It's another thing entirely to bar a good candidate from office because they differ with you on the subject, or to distort science because it doesn't perfectly match your holy book. That's where I'd like to see atheists focus their efforts.
 
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Militant atheists and fundamentalist Christians (or any other type of hardcore religious followers) are literally two sides of the same coin.

Both are fervently devoted to their "cause" and instantly villainize anyone that associates with any belief other than theirs, ignoring any type of discussion whatsoever. It's quite aggravating and, as someone that was once a confirmed Catholic, then an atheist, and now just kinda... uncaring, both sides just make me cringe, especially when they become overly ham in trying to show how the other side is wrong. If you have to make yourself look stupid in making the other side look stupid... you just make yourself look stupid. Simple as that.

The Armoured Skeptic, which some people actually already mentioned, actually has a video outlining his life story and how he became disillusioned with both religion and "euphoric atheism." It's rather insightful and helps you understand where he comes from as a "skeptic."
 
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