Ethical concerns

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Alright, forgive me everybody, apparently she *did* force him to cut it back in 2011, but not recently.
 
Pikonic dijo:
IceBeam dijo:
The CWCki says that Barb forced him to cut it recently.

That was around spring 2011 I believe.

Chris needs this song in his life right now:

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"Just get out of this house if that's the clothes you're gonna' wear!
I'll kick you outta' my home if you don't CUT. THAT. HAIR.
Your mom busted in and said "what's that noise?!"
Aw mom, you're just jealous! It's the HEDGEHOG BOYS!"
 
IceBeam dijo:
Alright, forgive me everybody, apparently she *did* force him to cut it back in 2011, but not recently.

Look, Chris-Ch­an isn't going to change his retarded habits because he CAN NOT change them himself. Left to his own devices, he will follow where ever his misfiring synapse take him. This is something basic to children with autism. They need A LOT of direction. YEARS of it. Chris didn't get that because his parents were redneck fucktards. THE ONLY way Our Pet Manbaby would ever lose weight / get a job / whatever is if he were MADE to do it by someone who could take away his vidya.

Frankly, I'm not even sure that would work.
 
IceBeam dijo:
Alright, forgive me everybody, apparently she *did* force him to cut it back in 2011, but not recently.

He wore the cut off hair in something around his neck thinking the hair charm was going to make his hair grow faster or something retarded like that.
 
Some people were born to entertain others, whether passively or actively. I have no compunctions with laughing at someone making an ass out of them self. If schadenfreude makes me a bad person then I'll take it up with the Lord when I die.
 
somejerk dijo:
IceBeam dijo:
Nobody can deny that this is all a large impediment to the unlikely prospect of Chris ever doing anything with himself. He would have to change his name and assume a new identity to get anywhere, and remember, him taking a shower every day would be a feat. The CWCki itself states this several times, on various pages.

This is where you lost me. I think you're massively overestimating the interest level of most people in Chris and his antics, or the CWCki and this forum. Seriously. In the few instances where I've shown Chris or the CWCki to people they usually just go. "oh... that's kinda weird." and that's it. they don't care. added to that, I seriously doubt that the CWCki would cost him a job or a girlfriend before his own behavior did.

Most employers wouldn't even take the time or effort to Google Chris's name, especially for the type of jobs he's likely to be applying to. If he were in politics, or applying for a position with high visibility, where public perception might actually be a factor, that would be different.

The CWCki and CWCki Forum have absolutely no bearing on Chris's inability to find a job. This doesn't stop him, however, from laying almost all of the blame for his lack of job prospects on these two Internet entities. Admitting the truth; that his lack of employment is mainly due to lack of motivation and sheer laziness, is something Chris just isn't prepared to do.

His slovenly/sloppy manner of dress and almost non-existent personal hygiene don't help his prospects either. We saw his idea of dressing up in his 'Future Message' and 'For My Sweetest Ivy' YouTube videos: putting a blazer on over his usual shabby clothes. I'm not even sure that he would know how to dress properly for a job interview. (He could learn though. There is plenty of information on the Internet about how to dress for interviews. Chris would, however, have to actually take the time and effort to seek this out.)

In some ways, Chris needs the CWCki, this forum, the other 'hate pages' against him, and the trolls. As long as these entities exist, he's got a scapegoat and he can continue to pin the blame for all of his problems on them. If they no longer existed, then Chris would have to find someone / something else to blame for all of his woes and failures in life. Even worse, Chris may be forced to take a long, hard, honest look at himself. (Although I'm not holding my breath for that one.)
 
TrippinKahlua dijo:
God, Barb told him that "Tomgirls aren't real" and Chris didn't buy it.

You really think Chris will be forced to cut his hair? He associates his old look with being trolled in 2008-2010, he's not stopping Tomgirl for Barb.

At the rate his hairline is receding (as evidenced by recent pictures) Chris is going to have a very hard time pulling off the whole Tomgirl thing. Nothing screams femininity quite like a skullet.... :roll:

Not to wander too far OT, but I can't help but wonder how he's going to deal with his rapid hair loss: denial, some sort of retarded half-assed comb-over, buy a wig?
 
Thetan dijo:
TrippinKahlua dijo:
God, Barb told him that "Tomgirls aren't real" and Chris didn't buy it.

You really think Chris will be forced to cut his hair? He associates his old look with being trolled in 2008-2010, he's not stopping Tomgirl for Barb.

At the rate his hairline is receding (as evidenced by recent pictures) Chris is going to have a very hard time pulling off the whole Tomgirl thing. Nothing screams femininity quite like a skullet.... :roll:

Not to wander too far OT, but I can't help but wonder how he's going to deal with his rapid hair loss: denial, some sort of retarded half-assed comb-over, buy a wig?

Either a ghetto hairpiece or drawing on his head with a marker.
 
IceBeam dijo:
Thetan dijo:
TrippinKahlua dijo:
God, Barb told him that "Tomgirls aren't real" and Chris didn't buy it.

You really think Chris will be forced to cut his hair? He associates his old look with being trolled in 2008-2010, he's not stopping Tomgirl for Barb.

At the rate his hairline is receding (as evidenced by recent pictures) Chris is going to have a very hard time pulling off the whole Tomgirl thing. Nothing screams femininity quite like a skullet.... :roll:

Not to wander too far OT, but I can't help but wonder how he's going to deal with his rapid hair loss: denial, some sort of retarded half-assed comb-over, buy a wig?

Either a ghetto hairpiece or drawing on his head with a marker.
I'm betting 6 c-quarters on the marker
 
The problem is that even if Chris legally changed his name, it's unknown whether Chris would actually take the time to improve himself.

Look at Robert Wayne Stiles Natalie Mercedes Langley. Even when he said he "legally changes his name" to that, he still never changed and continued to fight with the trolls.

And plus, Chris still continues to fight and mention the trolls on his Facebook and Twitter. Sure, for me, it may cause him to become more paranoid, but even if we leave him alone and talk about other lolcows/anything other than Chris, he still would argue about them.
 
It's hard to feel bad for Chris, it really is. I gave him all sorts of doubt. I excused the stupid things he did. I tried to see him as a person capable of change who could potentially recover.

He's not.
He's won't.

I think the most important thing to realize is that Chris is legitimately a bad person. Nobody should feel sorry for him. At any time in his half a decade of descent he could have just been like, "fuck this noise" and went to Burger King. Instead of doing that, he played the game thinking he could come out on top because he is an arrogant, self-centered douchebag at heart and always will be. Even to this day, what pisses him off more than anything else in the world is being called "gay", despite the fact that if he were actually gay it would be the least of his worries.
 
I think this explains it best: (From the White Knight CWCki article)

Chris could have ended the trolling whenever he wanted to, but didn't

Lets face it, all Chris had to do to end the trolling was to stop responding to them. If he would have done this small step, this whole debacle would have never happened. The trolls had nothing personal against Chris; They just decided he was a worthy target after reading Sonichu and seeing how he spazzed out at his page on Encyclopedia Dramatica. As soon as he would have quit responding to their provocations and quit posting videos of him tard raging on YouTube, the trolls would have just moved on to someone else. Instead, Chris tried to "fight back" against them, in turn revealing more and more information about himself until the trolls knew all of his contact info and all the details of his life. That was when the trolling went past a point of no return, spilling into Chris' personal life so much that there would be absolutely no way for him to ever disassociate himself from it. Even when he was away from the computer, he found himself subjected to trolling by them calling his cell phone, sending him mail and them following him around in public. While the obsessive trolling of Chris was nothing less than shitty, the fact still remains that Chris was the one who allowed them to have such control over his life thanks to him always overreacting to every little provocation and him handing over all his personal information to them.

There is also the theory that Chris does things for trolls to mock him merely for the attention.
 
The white knight article is a great example. Another is when Null reached out to him and he got "fuck you" as the response. At this point in his life, he is irredeemable. His personal hole is so far deeply dug, that the "trolls" are a benefit for him. The imaginary enemy is much easier for him to process than accepting a shred of responsibility. There is also the fact that he cannot differentiate the difference between julayfags, organized trolls, christorians and white knights. This is a man who snaps at his best friend's mother when she simply sends him "positivity". It isn't what he wants to hear, so she is troll.
 
CatParty dijo:
The white knight article is a great example. Another is when Null reached out to him and he got "fuck you" as the response. At this point in his life, he is irredeemable. His personal hole is so far deeply dug, that the "trolls" are a benefit for him. The imaginary enemy is much easier for him to process than accepting a shred of responsibility. There is also the fact that he cannot differentiate the difference between julayfags, organized trolls, christorians and white knights. This is a man who snaps at his best friend's mother when she simply sends him "positivity". It isn't what he wants to hear, so she is troll.

He is a lazy slob, the money is wasted on him, he doesn't have to work for his money, damn that- damn him! And also, he is not friendly to us males! He should be friendly to us males. It makes me- it really ticks me OFF. [Grunt.]
 
Chris's biggest impediment is his behavior. His publicity is merely a symptom.
 
He's never gonna change, but that isn't our fault. Making fun of someone on the internet isn't that big of a deal to me. None of us are contacting him, or hurting him so why feel guilty? When you put yourself out there online, your opening yourself to criticism. Its not my fault Chris posted these crazy vids, or his wicked opinion of gay people online, for the world to see
 
IceBeam dijo:
bungholio dijo:
You're fighting a losing battle here.

I don't see a battle. I never presented an argument, but simply a discussion topic. A few people here misunderstand my post, and maybe I was a bit vague.

Put in terms that even slow-in-the-minds can understand: "I'm just curious if anybody else in the CWC community has ever considered if/to what extent we affect Chris' life and the direction thereof, for good or bad. Sorry if it seemed like I had some agenda, but I thought that much was at least pretty clear.

Well you really weren't very clear. But nonetheless I agree that it's good this discussion is going on. People may disagree but it's healthy to talk about this.
 
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