Escape From New York: Louis Rossmann Edition - Hopefully he does not make Texas a bughive

I will say that Louis has a New York accent, I have no idea why he thinks he has a Texas accent.
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What a beautifully crafted legal "Fuck Off" letter. I want whatever lawyer he has on retainer.
It worked...


... but it may not be over. The letter states that the current attorney "has withdrawn as legal counsel" for CAMI, suggesting that the law firm dropped CAMI as a client rather than CAMI withdrawing its cease and desist.
 
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It worked

It may not be over. The letter states that the current attorney "has withdrawn as legal counsel" for CAMI, so there's nothing stopping CAMI from engaging another law firm and trying again.

They must've accepted his heart-wrenching, genuine apology.
See? He should apologize like this to corporations more often. They'll feel so bad that they'll always back down.
In a shocking turn of events, Rossmann cucks completely and apologizes to Cami Research

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It worked...

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Th-OAfQ5FJk
... but it may not be over. The letter states that the current attorney "has withdrawn as legal counsel" for CAMI, suggesting that the law firm dropped CAMI as a client rather than CAMI withdrawing its cease and desist.
Their lawyers probably looked into the actual lawsuit and said "fuck that noise."
 
It worked...

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Th-OAfQ5FJk
... but it may not be over. The letter states that the current attorney "has withdrawn as legal counsel" for CAMI, suggesting that the law firm dropped CAMI as a client rather than CAMI withdrawing its cease and desist.
Agreed. As @Hey Johnny Bravo comments, they probably looked at what was actually at stake, so clearly described in Rossmann's response, and advised CAMI that pursuing this was a bad idea. That they dropped CAMI as a client makes me suspect that Mr. Strangio wants to persist in trying to sue Rossmann, and the lawyers dropped him as a client since he's unwilling to accept that suing Rossmann will be a self-destructive fool's errand.

Their lawyers probably looked into the actual lawsuit and said "fuck that noise."
The initial letter honestly sounded rather similar to letters I have read when reading about people trying to slience their critics with threats of lawfare. I think such are often form letters, with various blanks filled out according to the aggreived party's claims. I'll let our esteemed law kiwis comment on how retarded my imagination is, but here's my own retarded fanfic on how this probably went down:

After the backlash against CAMI Research from Rossmann's original video, Mr. Strangio got butthurt. He reached out to Baker, Sterchi, Cowden & Rice, with claims that Rossmann is defaming him, damaging his business by falsely claiming CAMI is violating Right to Repair laws, and reposting misleading videos in which Mr. Strangio's phone call was illegally recorded. The lawyer assigned to the case, one Megan Coluccio, took these claims at face value, had her paralegal pull out one of the standard Cease and Desist form letters, research which statutes would apply, fill out the blanks, and give it to her to sign. Ms. Coluccio got the filled out form letter, gave it a quick once-over, signed it, and sent it along to Rossman.

Rossmann got the letter, read over it, drafted the wonderfully eloquent Fuck Off letter he read in his response video, and sent it back to CAMI's lawyers.

Ms. Coluccio read Rossmann's response, and found not a grovelling apology, or defiant bluster, but a series of counter arguments why the position of CAMI research is bullshit, thoroughly researched, and fully cited. Ms. Coluccio collaborated with her paralegal on confirming the citations and their relevance to Rossmann's arguments, and went to her boss, perhaps one of the named partners, and explained they have a problem. Her boss read Rossmann's letter, realized that pursing the suit would indeed likely bring substantial liabilities to both the client and the firm, and instructed Ms. Coluccio to inform Mr. Strangio that any legal action against Rossmann would be ill-advised, and that if Mr. Strangio insists on pursing action against Rossmann, to drop Mr. Strangio as a client.

Mr. Strangio, being of wounded pride, did not take kindly to the notion that suing Rossmann is a Bad Idea, and insisted on pressing forward. Ms. Coluccio acted as instructed, dropped Mr. Strangio as a client, and sent Rossmann the letter informing Rossman that Baker, Sterchi, Cowden & Rice no longer represent Mr. Strangio or CAMI research.

Rossmann got the letter, and we got that lovely summary video @Pee Cola links, above.

To any law kiwis reading this thread, how much of the above scenario have I imagined wrongly because I watched too many legal dramas on TV?

Part of me wants this to be the end of this issue for Rossmann, because dealing with lawfare is stress he doesn't deserve, and his energies will do more net good for the world if he can focus them on his repair business and his Right to Repair advocacy. But another part of me wants to watch Mr Strangio and CAMI Research continue on this path and get ruinously legally bitchslapped for it, pour encourager les autres.

We shall have to see what comes next.
 
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Read through the written response. That's a good lawyer, not (just) autism.
The lawfirm of L, L, & M, esq.

I hold in contempt people who say I paid nothing for that response. That costs $60/month!!!

99% of the people I know that use any of this AI stuff ask a question, then copy & paste the response and that's it... it is so lazy & surface level. There is a giant difference between doing that, & going line by line through each claim, asking how you'd approach it, why you take that approach, asking in another window which "why" is the best reason, then asking for it to research which one of the "whys" is the "why" that resulted in counsel continuously winning in similar cases... then another window with research clicked to look all of those up & provide citations to ensure they're correct... then asking in another window to find a citation for each one, asking in another to verify each one, reading them myself, taking the entire thing & asking it to collect all information on the emotional reactions people at this type of firm have when opening something, crafting a reply that is designed to trigger all of the right points to get the person incentivized to ask their management to drop the case. one window has a prompt like you are xyz lawyer at abc firm, tell me about the culture, procedures, etc, based on your knowledge of all people who have ever written or spoken about their work at similar lawfirms. another window gets the dump of that & goes you are xyz lawyer at abc firm, what would this letter have to include for you to feel like you need to walk over to your boss & explain that this case needs to go away?

I could've asked it to draft me a reply & copied & pasted that, but it would've been garbage. The first EFF meetup I ever went to was a lecture on lawyers getting sent to jail for made-up citations as a result of chatgpt erroring & hallucinating it & nobody double checking the cases.

I've also used this to deal with insurance companies, my friend was in the hospital multiple times & Anthem didn't want to pay any of the claims. She was very stressed out about it so I told her to stop opening mail from them. That was much tougher than this & good prep work. In short matter they stopped arguing and now approve it all by default.

It's worked with ex-landlords that didn't want to return deposits... all sorts of shit. Those didn't take 3 hours, but I also wasn't dealing with a lawfirm that had 40+ attorneys on staff either. This had to be perfect; there was no room for error.

I don't get offended when people send me AI generated emails because they used AI... I am offended at the lack of effort. That stuff is garbage. but with a little bit of time, you can make a genuine work of art.

If it came down to it I'd spend $300,000 on a lawyer before I gave this man a dime. but I'm not wasting money on an attorney just because you did. and honestly even if i did spend $2k on an attorney I have a feeling it would've been slow & more boring. this was much more fun. :D
 
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Just put the gun down and take a damn shower.
 
I think we should highlight the message Louis is trying to send with this: if more people had a firm backbone, this corporate bitch tactic of scaring people into submission with legal bullshit like this whenever their feet gets held close to the fire would be dead in the water. All it took for this house of cards to fold was an elegantly written letter essentially telling these dipshits to fuck off and explaining why. There are so many other cases where this could be applicable.
 
The first EFF meetup I ever went to was a lecture on lawyers getting sent to jail for made-up citations as a result of chatgpt erroring & hallucinating it & nobody double checking the cases.
That was some of the funniest shit I've seen in legal circles for a long time. I couldn't believe a practicing attorney actually did something that stupid. Basic fact-checking is the kind of thing they have paralegals for! I guess I should have expected someone to be that dumb one day, but there's just a naive part of my brain that still holds out a tiny bit of hope for people to not always be retarded 100% of the time.
 
Complete coincidence but Clippy appeared in the new Naked Gun movie (which is suprisingly good!) and is useful and helpful, unlike the AI in the movie.
 
Got my small clippy act in for the week. I linked the first Cami Research video in a work email chain where we were looking into the pros and cons of a few automated cables testing solutions. The Cableeye is now excluded from our selection and repair schematics available is now on the nice-to-have features list for whatever solution we choose.
 
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