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Fucking savage, goddamn.🪦 Deceased Elizabeth Waite / John Waite Jr. - You did this, Rat King
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Fucking savage, goddamn.
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Lizzy and I had many discussions about our abuse histories over the nearly nine years we were together. She was not sexually abused, that was me. She was physically and emotionally abused.
Tatoe was evaluated by caseworkers from the local child protective services office on the day I had Lizzy removed from the house. They found no grounds for abuse allegations and the neglect allegation was declared unfounded. They did state after interviewing both of us that they strongly recommended that Lizzy not have unsupervised visitation with him until she was mentally stable, so that was the recommendation we were following.
Lizzy and I had many discussions about our abuse histories over the nearly nine years we were together. She was not sexually abused, that was me. She was physically and emotionally abused.
Tatoe was evaluated by caseworkers from the local child protective services office on the day I had Lizzy removed from the house. They found no grounds for abuse allegations and the neglect allegation was declared unfounded. They did state after interviewing both of us that they strongly recommended that Lizzy not have unsupervised visitation with him until she was mentally stable, so that was the recommendation we were following.
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- 30 de Ene, 2014
Thanks for taking the time to answer so many questions.
This line in particular stands out to me. Once removed from an abusive situation, often things that went unnoticed or were accepted as normal stand out as red flags. To me this sounds like a very red, very wavy flag. It almost sounds like textbook borderline personality disorder - I will put the onus for my happiness and emotional well-being on other people, and then get angry when they can't do everything for me.
I'm not saying it's Elizabeth's fault. She was a seriously sick, disturbed person who needed help and screamed out for it the only ways she knew how and was tragically ignored. Of course, it isn't your fault either. You can't be responsible for failing to meet the demands of someone who doesn't seem to understand how relationships work.
Are there any other incidents or patterns of behaviour that stand out as red flags now that you're removed from the situation? Things you forced yourself to accept at the time but that you recognize now as being unhealthy and dangerous?
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- 24 de Mar, 2016
A brief interview on the day of a parent's removal from the home may not be enough to get a traumatized child to talk. I know people personally who were abused and told investigators in similar situations that they were not, because they were scared of consequences to the parent. Now that there are no consequences to be had, it might be a good idea for your child to see a counselor who specializes in this sort of thing.
Lizzy did have a borderline personality disorder diagnosis. It was recent, only in the past year, but the more I look back on our time together the more I realize there were so many little things I should have picked up on.
Just one example is that we lived with my mother and she would get upset about me spending time with my mom. She hated being around my mom because she smokes and has bad taste in television, so she wouldn't hang out with us. Instead she always wanted me to come to our room. At the time I thought it was because she missed me. Now I think maybe she just didn't want to be alone.
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- 18 de Jun, 2015
Well done. Polite and to the point.
Unfortunately I wouldn't be surprised if that community simply ignores and belittles your request on a far greater scale than /pol/ or kiwi ever will.
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- 21 de Sep, 2014
They've mostly cleared up, thank goodness. He no longer has any issues with soy or milk protein, strawberries, or fish/shellfish. He's still mildly lactose intolerant, but he doesn't let that bother him much. Almond milk tastes better anyway.
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- 26 de Nov, 2016
Makes sense. As far as what I've been told, and what I understand people who are diagnosed BPD have a lack of emotional permanence - in that, without therapy, it makes it extremely difficult for those people to believe that they are cared for/you care for them when they're not in your immediate vicinity explicitly telling them these things. Unchecked it can really fuck with a person and it's manipulative, even if they don't intend it to be.
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- 23 de Feb, 2015
Yeah our autism gives us short attention spans. In a day or two we'll move on to the next internet drama.
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- 14 de Jul, 2016
Was she ever paranoid? About the government, about being spied on, or about an alleged plan to overthrow a power?
They talked about bringing up Tatoe to be a communist, I wonder if the bpd explained their angry outbursts, the schizophrenia explained the drugs, and the paranoia pre-existing as well as being manipulated and molded by the inner circle?
Its an obvious assumption, no doubt, but I want to be sure on my end.
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Out of curiosity, where did the nickname Tatoe originate from?
You know that Facebook meme that's been going around? Person isn't Person without _____? Lizzy wasn't Lizzy without a heaping distrust of The Man. It was how she was raised. Her piece of shit father grew pot around her sandbox and sold speed out of her house. She had to worry every time she saw police in the neighborhood that she was going to lose her family. Also explains the drug use, if you ask me.
We were both extremely left-leaning politically. She was an anarcho-communist. I think socialism sounds nice but is impractical but we need to make sure everyone has access to basic needs. It wasn't unexpected for us to raise our child the same way.
Before we knew if we were having a boy or a girl, we wanted to call the baby something. Because I'd had so many losses already, we didn't want to pick any names until we knew this one was going to survive. The ultrasound image looked like a small roasting potato. She was listening to Jazz Potato by Mr Scruff. We had recently reread and laughed over the Dan Quayle "potatoe" incident. It just kind of stuck.
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- 14 de Jul, 2016
Potato, their nickname for the baby.
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- 26 de Nov, 2016
Knowing the backstory makes the name a little cute.
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- 21 de Sep, 2014
Honestly, there are a ton of combinations of mental disorders which could have explained stuff. Diagnosis is an art, not a science, and it often doesn't matter a lot if it's entirely accurate except for insurance purposes - the treatment is often essentially the same for disorders in similar classes.
Personality disorders tend to be long-standing, though. They don't suddenly manifest after adulthood, even though they might not be diagnosed until then.
While there are certainly valid questions about whether Lizzie was diagnosed and treated appropriately, the best mental health care in the world is not insurance against suicide.
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- 1 de Ago, 2016
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I honestly think Elizabeth would have been better off if she got treatment for the drug abuse.
She had issues. I honestly don't think true gender dysphoria was one of them and she was treated as an egg by these loons until she hatched and then tragedy happens.
Also, I know I should save this for the TLL thread, but Greta is a scam artist and I think Elizabeth would have been better off calling a different hotline.
I honestly think Elizabeth would have been better off if she got treatment for the drug abuse.
She had issues. I honestly don't think true gender dysphoria was one of them and she was treated as an egg by these loons until she hatched and then tragedy happens.
Also, I know I should save this for the TLL thread, but Greta is a scam artist and I think Elizabeth would have been better off calling a different hotline.
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- 21 de Sep, 2014
Sure, and a psych diagnosis can't be made accurately in the presence of drug abuse. I'm sure Amanda will ask herself these questions for many years to come, but right now she has more immediate concerns to focus on.