🪦 Deceased Elizabeth Waite / John Waite Jr. - You did this, Rat King

How do you feel about her death being used to prop up an organization that doesn't actually help anyone?

How do you feel about Phil(Isabella Rosa aruja) using her death to further his GoFundMe?
 
Silly person, that's just his nickname. And it's one that he's growing out of. He prefers to be called by his real name most of the time since starting school. And I know you already know his real name.

My apologies, I read his name as "potatoe" so many times I forgot his real name was John.
 
Oh thank god. The kids name isn't actually Potato. I was mildly concerned about how his school years would go :sighduck:
 
Which brings up the question...

Isn't it strange that she named her son after her deadname?

It wasn't her deadname then. Kid is in kindergarten and Lizzie only trooned out a couple of years ago. It *is* strange that she named him after her child-molesting father, though.

Amanda. Go get some rest. Even if you're concerned about the internet, it's not a battle you need to fight today, or tomorrow. Right now you need to focus on just getting through each hour and being there for your son.

You have no reason to believe us, but the messages on Lizzie's FB and on Donna's FB aren't our style of trolling. You can check out the FB pages of family members of other people featured here - you won't see that same kind of shit posted on there. We sometimes quote the social media of bystanders, but we don't invade their social media accounts.
 
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How do you feel about her death being used to prop up an organization that doesn't actually help anyone?

How do you feel about Phil(Isabella Rosa aruja) using her death to further his GoFundMe?
I am incensed about both sides using her death to further their own agenda.

The time Lizzy actually made it to an operator on TLL, she was on hold for hours first. If people are going to donate to an organization that helped her, it should be Capitol Area Counseling Services. They provided her mental health care, her case management services, and even helped her with housing and other basic needs.

At the same time, I don't know why this is funny. She's a real person. Not all good, not all bad. Why does all her information have to be compiled for your amusement? I don't give a fuck what you say about me. I'm here to defend myself.
 
How do you feel about Phil(Isabella Rosa aruja) using her death to further his GoFundMe?
Aside from the loss of life, and collateral damage surrounding this discussion, this is the second most tragic thing happening in context and he should be called out on it.
 
I am incensed about both sides using her death to further their own agenda.

The time Lizzy actually made it to an operator on TLL, she was on hold for hours first. If people are going to donate to an organization that helped her, it should be Capitol Area Counseling Services. They provided her mental health care, her case management services, and even helped her with housing and other basic needs.

At the same time, I don't know why this is funny. She's a real person. Not all good, not all bad. Why does all her information have to be compiled for your amusement? I don't give a fuck what you say about me. I'm here to defend myself.
Some of these people have autism.
 
It wasn't her deadname then. Kid is in kindergarten and Lizzie only trooned out a couple of years ago. It *is* strange that she named him after her child-molesting father, though.
We liked the idea of him being The Third. It sounded regal. Also, John was a name I always liked because it's my biological father's name. I didn't meet him until this year but I liked the idea of kind of thanking him for his contribution.

Tatoe's middle names were changed from John Sr's though. We didn't want him to share the entire name.
 
Amanda, glad to have you with us.

I am incensed about both sides using her death to further their own agenda.

The time Lizzy actually made it to an operator on TLL, she was on hold for hours first. If people are going to donate to an organization that helped her, it should be Capitol Area Counseling Services. They provided her mental health care, her case management services, and even helped her with housing and other basic needs.

At the same time, I don't know why this is funny. She's a real person. Not all good, not all bad. Why does all her information have to be compiled for your amusement? I don't give a fuck what you say about me. I'm here to defend myself.

I'd like to point out we are observers only. If it's public information, it will likely wind up here and on any other site that takes interest in this, but speaking for myself, I wouldn't do anything with that information except to say I'm sorry for your loss.

I just hope you take appropriate caution since you will almost certainly be a target of the vultures using this incident to promote their own agendas, especially because you came here to tell your side of the story, an act they will consider 'collaborating with the enemy" when the only villains who wanted to use a death for their own gain are those very people.
 
Why does all her information have to be compiled for your amusement? .

One big reason is there have been allegations even as far as murder. That's a very specific legal allegation.
and there has been call to ruin lives and specific actions are being attempted to compromise this site (such as domain name registration).
Information about your S.O. having the problems they had could be part of a legal , policy , and/or public relations(such as ToS) defense against some allegations.

Also, the specific information can show how unqualified "support services" may very well have, at best, provided no help and possibly enabled the tragedy by shunting attention from qualified organizations
 
That account is a fucking goldmine. Every other post is about crazy tranny ex-wife and I'm only a page back now.

The closing paragraph on this one seems to sum this one up:

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I see a bunch of "sexually abused as a child" from this lady's timeline as well and the total lack of self-awareness as she is a willing participant in turning her kid into this is just bullshit.

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April 5th appears to be the magical date of the aforementioned dragged-away-by-the-police meltdown, according to this. As I read more of this history I get the impression that they deserved each other.
I thought you said this wouldn't be funny.

Edit: in a kind dark, what the hell kind of way.
 
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At the same time, I don't know why this is funny. She's a real person. Not all good, not all bad. Why does all her information have to be compiled for your amusement? I don't give a fuck what you say about me. I'm here to defend myself.
I think that certainly a large part of it was due to her connection to Greta/TLL. Elizabeth is a real person and not just some exhibit. But the fact is that she serves as perfect proof of how the TLL is a dangerous scam, and how the trans community can be incredibly toxic, both points which can lead to responsibility for peoples' deaths.
 
Yeah @Manapan for some context. Greta of translifeline sicked some people on us because she hates free speech. We then started digging into meal ticket of an organization. What we found was horrible, the lines were barely manned, they use the money for travel and parties, and love using others tragedies for financial gain.
because Elizabeth mentioned translifeline in their suicide note, greta's minion started saying we bullied her to death.

We had no knowledge of Elizabeth before their death, except Smutley who reported their suicidal posts to facebook. The people leaving comments on facebook aren't from this site.

Greta is now using your exes death to get more donations even though translifeline has done nothing but contribute nothing to the problem of Tran depression.
 
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