E3 2021 Griefing Thread - Now with more nigger pandering, does anyone even care about most of the games displayed here seriously? (Spoiler alert Nintendo won lol)

[Milwaukee Macho Man]

That's kind of what I'm talking about, Konami is a company run by sociopaths.

Maybe that's what you should talk about instead of complaining you didn't get more Silent Hill and comparing it to the Mona Lisa then. It'd at least make you look a little more justified in calling them pure evil FYI.

 

[Judge Dredd]

You've just blocked out the bad games from your memory. Much like how Neo geo and PC Engine/TG16 are not part of mainstream nostalgia despite also existing at the same points in time due to their higher price tag.

No. I didn't. Because-

I enjoyed the fuck out of games most people called failures and shat on (without ever playing them or checking them out after getting fixed), which apparently means I got "shit taste".

I also had "shit taste" back then. Mainly for enjoying not-AAA action games like Legendary (Legendary: The Box in the US), or games that were hated by the mainstream like Resident Evil 5.

People are clamoring for next gen systems and graphic cards in record numbers.

Not really. Graphics cards are being bought up by bitcoin miners, while scalpers are buying everything from pokemon cards to consoles.

From there in the first few years of the 7th gen there was a lot of cynicism about the current state of gaming, games like Bioshock were met with "not as good as System Shock 2", Fallout 3 was "not as good as Fallout 1 and 2", almost everything was always met with cries of "not as good as the past"

You get those people today. There will always be retards who want gaming to be what they grew up with before their parents got a divorce. They are rightly ignored. I remember when the demo for Doom 2016 was review bombed by Doom 2 fanboys before the demo went live. That aged well.

Mix that in with the general "this game sucks" angry reviewer fad, and it can seem that way. (I saw this edit while looking for the original and had to share it)

You know E3 this year is exciting when people would rather have in-depth discussions regarding their age and their video game engagement and the change in gaming trends over the last few decades.

I'll take that over the tired.
"This game sucks. YAAAWN. Where's Zelda?" livestream takes.

I have a co-worker with a few years on me and he's the sort of guy who gets angry if I tell him not to buy the Mass Effect collection because 3 was a wet fart.

I was kicked out of a Discord server for saying Goodbye Volcano High looked shit.

 

[Milwaukee Macho Man]

Not really. Graphics cards are being bought up by bitcoin miners, while scalpers are buying everything from pokemon cards to consoles.

Scalpers buying them up doesn't mean there isn't interest. Especially when tons of people are constantly complaining about the graphic card shortage, and people are paying those scalpers 1000+ dollars for consoles in most cases. That is not the actions of a disgruntled or apathetic people. Those of us that have no interest in PS5/Series X/4K are the minority.

 

[Dom Cruise]

You need to grow up and get an actual life, dude. I couldn't imagine getting this upset over fucking video games and my first ever game was the OG Castlevania way back in the early 90s.

Eh, I liked Silent Hill, it got ruined, I'm bitter about it, maybe I dress it up too much.

 

[Love Machine]

you all our gaymers, I am the true arbiter of what is a good video game.

 

[Judge Dredd]

Scalpers buying them up doesn't mean there isn't interest.

You're technically correct, but let's look at each situation.

Graphics card shortages are a pain. I want to upgrade my PC, a family member wants a new PC. Those don't mean we're clamouring for next gen systems. It just means I want new PC parts and can't get them.

As for 4k consoles. Scalpers are buying them up, but only the most bugeyed of consoomers are paying the elevated prices. I remember reading that less than a third of PS5s sold are activated. Many are just scalpers buying from each other. Add in the artificial scarcity that companies have used in the past and I doubt the new consoles are popular.

 

[Milwaukee Macho Man]

You're technically correct, but let's look at each situation.

Graphics card shortages are a pain. I want to upgrade my PC, a family member wants a new PC. Those don't mean we're clamouring for next gen systems. It just means I want new PC parts and can't get them.

As for 4k consoles. Scalpers are buying them up, but only the most bugeyed of consoomers are paying the elevated prices. I remember reading that less than a third of PS5s sold are activated. Many are just scalpers buying from each other. Add in the artificial scarcity that companies have used in the past and I doubt the new consoles are popular.

I've heard the opposite and that most of the scalped PS5's have been activated at this point. I haven't seen a valid source for either statement though so *shrug*

I'll give you that there's probably way more interest in 4K consoles than 4K graphic cards at this point simply because I think only 1/3rd of Steam users even have a 4K monitor or something?

 

[Miller]

It wouldn't have killed them to give Kojima more time given all their pachinko money.

Silent Hill means a lot to me for personal reasons, I know I take this all very personally, but I feel incredibly angry about what happened to Silent Hill, that's all.

But hey, as the saying goes, don't be mad it ended, be happy it happened at all.

More time? Why? The guy was like the king, they gave him everything and he still fucked up. No one at Konami told him to waste a ton of money on Hollywood actors. As for Silent Hill, he would have ruined that franchise even more with his Hollywood friends.
Look at Death Stranding, another game where he had total control over the project, the game tanked and what does he do? He releases a "director's cut" 2 years later.

 

[heraclius33]

More time? Why? The guy was like the king, they gave him everything and he still fucked up. No one at Konami told him to waste a ton of money on Hollywood actors. As for Silent Hill, he would have ruined that franchise even more with his Hollywood friends.

Seeing as he associates with Del Toro, a fat reddit tier director who thought that JRR Tolkien was too much of a catholic(despite being the original director of the Hobbit) and makes degenerate films such as the Shape of Water, Kojima would probably ruin Silent Hill. Silent Hill is not coming back until Konami goes belly up and even then it will likely be about as good as every game not made by Team Silent.
Silent Hill cannot be replicated by Indie developers. Making a shitty PS1 looking horror indie game is one thing, being as revolutionary as silent hill was on an indie budget is near impossible. To simply match the caliber of SH2(Which isn't enough, SH is supposed to constantly push boundaries, not merely conserve them) they would need a massive budget for sound design, voice acting, they would need to come up with a compelling story, which seems easy on paper but really isn't. The Golden age of PS2 horror games isn't coming back. Plus, modern audiences aren't really capable of playing a game like Rule of Rose, Fatal Frame or SH2 anyway.

 

[heraclius33]

I've heard the opposite and that most of the scalped PS5's have been activated at this point. I haven't seen a valid source for either statement though so *shrug*

I'll give you that there's probably way more interest in 4K consoles than 4K graphic cards at this point simply because I think only 1/3rd of Steam users even have a 4K monitor or something?

Actually with upsampling tech, if you have a good enough GPU, you don't necessarily need a 4K Monitor to play in 4k. I believe its called DSR for Nvidia and VSR for AMD. Also, AMD FidelityFX Super Resolution(FSR) will probably kill the mid range GPU market. Considering how it can boost performance by up to 200% in modern titles and works for the RX 480, RX 500 Series, RX Vega 56, 64, Radeon VII, the 5000 Series and 6000 series, along with many Nvidia cards, I don't see a reason to buy a new GPU for a while. I mean in Godfall for instance, at Epic settings 1440p a GTX 1060 runs at about 27 FPS, while on the Quality settings for FSR with the same resolution and game settings(There are 4 settings for FSR, Quality is the 2nd best looking) it runs at 38 FPS. Getting a free 41% boost for a 5 year old GPU that still is the #1 steam GPU by ownership will kill cards like the RTX 3060.

 

[Marissa Moira]

Seeing as he associates with Del Toro, a fat reddit tier director who thought that JRR Tolkien was too much of a catholic(despite being the original director of the Hobbit) and makes degenerate films such as the Shape of Water, Kojima would probably ruin Silent Hill. Silent Hill is not coming back until Konami goes belly up and even then it will likely be about as good as every game not made by Team Silent.
Silent Hill cannot be replicated by Indie developers. Making a shitty PS1 looking horror indie game is one thing, being as revolutionary as silent hill was on an indie budget is near impossible. To simply match the caliber of SH2(Which isn't enough, SH is supposed to constantly push boundaries, not merely conserve them) they would need a massive budget for sound design, voice acting, they would need to come up with a compelling story, which seems easy on paper but really isn't. The Golden age of PS2 horror games isn't coming back. Plus, modern audiences aren't really capable of playing a game like Rule of Rose, Fatal Frame or SH2 anyway.

Resident Evil 8 went in a more Thiller direction because it's more suitable for modern game design. Slow horror games can be recorded on youtube because they're based around methodical puzzle solving, but a Thriller is far more interactive and requires the player to actually play it and be involved. It's why jump scares really are not in favor, they lose their effect once people are aware when they happen. So very aggressive enemies you have to ward off became the norm.

It's why the Souls series is popular for much the same reason, everything can kill you and fuck you up in some fashion.

 

[heraclius33]

Resident Evil 8 went in a more Thiller direction because it's more suitable for modern game design. Slow horror games can be recorded on youtube, but a Thriller is far more interactive and requires the player to actually play it and be involved.

Its a matter of taste and I can respect it, even though I personally tend to prefer more slow horror. The market will always prefer something like RE8: Village to a hypothetical 4k Remake of SH2 in Unreal Engine 5. Even still, I think though that there will always be a market for games designed in an older fashion but with some modern features. I know its not a horror game but Daggerfall Unity revived the long dead Daggerfall community to the point where when I was in high school and constantly monitoring the project to completion, I convinced my high school CS teacher to try it out and he became a big fan of it. Pillars of Eternity proved that old school CRPGS inspired by games like Baldurs Gate or Planetscape Torment not only have a market but can also modernize for a wider audience without compromising depth. If Konami were to lease out Silent Hill to a competent developer, there would be a market for a game made like the first 4 SH games and it could probably turn a profit.

 

[Rotollo 2]

I wish guys like Dom would focus on that kind of shit instead of Kojima being released for not finishing his fucking game and not getting more vidya.

Hell wasn't Kojima himself complicit with this shit considering he was the vice president of the company for a while?

you all our gaymers, I am the true arbiter of what is a good video game.

Action 52 = GoaT

 

[Milwaukee Macho Man]

Hell wasn't Kojima himself complicit with this shit considering he was the vice president of the company for a while?

Pretty sure he was Vice President for a couple years near the end, yeah.

 

[trent]

There's a stream of twee indie shit on now.

Everythings pastel colors and sexually ambiguous characters.

E: Now they're talking about refugees!

 

[Smug Chuckler]

E: Now they're talking about refugees!

Now I want to be a refugee from this shit.

 

[trent]

That game where you deliver the mail looked interesting.

E: 95% of these games have furries as the characters. No exaggeration. There has also been two Pokemon Snap rip-offs already.

 

[Kulee Baba]

That game where you deliver the mail looked interesting.

E: 95% of these games have furries as the characters. No exaggeration. There has also been two Pokemon Snap rip-offs already.

I keep wondering how long until Bloody Roar makes a bizarre return as it was doing Furry shit before anyone called it Furry.

 

[Jimothy]

The Wholesome Direct is the most pozzed shit I have ever seen at e3.
https://wholesomegames.com/ (archive is down for me right now)

 

[trent]

The Wholesome Direct is the most pozzed shit I have ever seen at e3.
https://wholesomegames.com/ (archive is down for me right now)
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They just showed a game where one of the characters was wearing a "trans black lives matter" shirt.