Does the right really support free speech?

[Irritable Bowel Syndrome]

The majority of right-wing communities I've seen are just as censorship-happy (also mentally ill) as the SJW ones that they love to complain about. Is there any reason to believe that if conservatives ever gained control over corporate America that they wouldn't implement censorship policies that are on par with the SJWs?

 

[Lemmingwise]

So you're comparing "right wing communities" and "SJWs".

Seems like you're willing to broadly apply to the right, whereas you want to be specifics when dealing with the left.

From this I derive that you have unexamined bias.

The right has the ability to censor. You might not have noticed, but republicans got their president and are going to extend into the next term.

It would take a long march through institutions and the setting up of an own internet and alternative media at this point just to achieve parity.

 

[Larkin N Likin]

Politicians don't own corporate America; corporate America owns politicians.
As for the free speech thing, I think right-wing politicians are almost as bad, but not quite. You're more likely to see a 'right-winger' chimp out over shit they don't agree with than try to stomp it out, but that is becoming less and less true as time goes on (Conservative subreddits are plagues with censorship issues). I think eventually it will be on par with 'the left' but it's not quite there yet. For now, there's a lot more moral-righteousness and self-importance when wokies trample free speech so you see it happening much more often.

 

[alreadyhome]

I doubt it

 

[Orion Balls]

Hardliners of any position are generally screeching idiots, who only see opposing views as personal attacks. It's kind of funny to watch. Don't have deep thunks about it, just sit back and enjoy the show.

E-

Soldiers are the troons of the conservative movement

Who gets custody of the troon soldiers?

 

[Pixy]

They support 'free speech' as far as it gets them political support and is in their favour. True free speech is something they would never support.

 

[Trump's Chosen]

Honestly at this point the right would have to be fucking stupid to keep playing polite with the left.

But when it comes to speech, it makes sense for the right to simply support free speech. The left can't support free speech if they wanted to, they'd lose too much if they did.
It's dumb to think of hypothetical "Yeah, but what if they also use the power irresponsibly?" Of course they'll also use it irresponsibly. It's power. That's what people do with it. But it will be a slow burn of getting worse, while the left would be forced to rehabilitate themselves.

Right and left are a myth though. Shadows on the wall.

 

[A Welsh Cake]

Speech isn’t free. You burn tiny amounts of calories whenever you talk.

 

[Syaoran Li]

Depends on what you define as "right-wing"

If we're talking about neocons and traditionalists, then they are every bit as opposed to free speech as the Woke Left. Especially the traditionalists.

If we're talking about lolbertarians, then they're really big on free speech. It's the one semi-admirable thing I can think of about the lolberts that has any actual consistency.

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

Average far right thread is sperging about all the things that they would ban in minecraft and all the people they would cancel if they could, so not really, its not about freeze peach. Neocons use to spent a big deal of time and effort trying to censore shit and banning stuff just for not pandering to them, they still do but now is more like they don't have that level of influence to simply erase shit away anymore and force their standards while the left does.

The right mostly tries to censor with disinfo and drowning anything they don't like with soyjacks or with shit smearing campaigns, spam and noise is very effective to silence discourse on platforms that are supposed to be for free speech, Since they are banned from almost everywhere they can only take root in communities that favor anonimity and free speech but those communities are too free for the far right liking so they get molded into a neocon boomer edgy eco chamber s by brigading over time and driving everyone else away.

Politics in general are filthy, marketing is filthy, really both sides have a vested interested in pushing their shit and silence the opposition, the question is how much the system as a whole is willing to make allowances for political factions to do that. Same with the markets, of course any giant corporation would want to become a monopoly and fuck competition, the question is wether they are allowed to.

 

[Homo neanderthalensis]

Everybody supports free speech until somebody says something that they don't like.

 

[TheShedCollector]

No. Its just their speech getting stepped on right now. 40 years ago it was them doing the same thing to the left as is getting done to them today.

 

[WolfeTone]

From personal experience only, leftists will jump down your throat and drag you for the littlest thing. I've been banned from MC Chris's Facebook just for mentioning that Trans Lifeline was founded by frauds, I used to listen to his music when I was bullied, I told him specifically how much his kindness meant. Then Chris started wandering around the US and doing drugs and partying at venues and getting in fights and the ratpack absorbed him utterly and completely. He started bragging about being bi and how he always fealt oppressed cause of that, like dude, nobody has ever stopped you from sucking dick if you're under the age of 40. He absolutely lost his mind, when he should be spending ALL his time with his child, one of the most adorable kids I've ever seen, instead of smoking weed out of his car and crying about mean words on live.
The right usually requires a lot more to institute a ban or shadowban, in every case, the closer you are from left to center, the less likely you are to get mad at words. Until you start horseshoeing around the sphere towards absolutist religious fundamentalist or hypersex libertarians, they can limit and echochamber just as bad, if not worse, than dangerhairs and tankies.

 

[Whatevermancer]

If you're talking about right-wing liberals, they only support your right to free speech until it becomes profitable to get rid of it. When people complain about "leftist censorship" on twitter and reddit, they forget, that twitter and reddit are capitalist corporations, that only exist to make money. If they think that for their bottom line it's better to ban some right-winger, they'll do it.

 

[Pointless Pedant]

"The right" isn't one thing. If by "the right" you mean libertarians and constitutional conservatives, yes, but if you're talking about literal fascists or theocrats then no way. Basically this:

Depends on what you define as "right-wing"

If we're talking about neocons and traditionalists, then they are every bit as opposed to free speech as the Woke Left. Especially the traditionalists.

If we're talking about lolbertarians, then they're really big on free speech. It's the one semi-admirable thing I can think of about the lolberts that has any actual consistency.

Free speech is authoritarian/libertarian, not right/left.

 

[ConfederateIrishman]

The libertarians generally do (god the mental gymnastics are great when this is not the case though); The mainstreams conservatives tend to mostly support it until their pet issues come up; I support it online because I fundamentally believe my views are correct and will win out on a truly open platform so I don't need to censor others, but I don't believe in inherent rights truth be told.

Now I assume if it has not already this thread will quickly devolve into no true scotsman arguments as everyone argues what a "Conservative" even is.

 

[Autopsy]

The libertarians generally do (god the mental gymnastics are great when this is not the case though); The mainstreams conservatives tend to mostly support it until their pet issues come up; I support it online because I fundamentally believe my views are correct and will win out on a truly open platform so I don't need to censor others, but I don't believe in inherent rights truth be told.

Now I assume if it has not already this thread will quickly devolve into no true scotsman arguments as everyone argues what a "Conservative" even is.

You assume rightly, but I came here to devolve it into a no true scotsman argument as to what a "right winger" even is. These terms are very silly and don't tell you anything of value except who you're supposed to dislike on voting day- in America. On the internet, it makes even less sense to use them, since the American "right wing" votes "left" in France and Germany, is too "right wing" for any party in Britain, and there's an array of separate parties for each sub-group of the "right wing" who all hate each-other in Italy and Greece.
Libertarians as a rule agree with free speech. This is commensurate of the position as the voter agrees with it.
Conservatives do not believe in establishing additional constraints on behavior outside of the ones that were implemented in "the good times". A few decades ago, speech was freer than it is today, so they support free speech within that context. This is commensurate of the position as the voter agrees with it.
"Left wingers" are also pro free speech on principle, it's just that there aren't many of them left. They've been choked out by hippie neocons and tankies. If you disagree, hit me up when any given "left wing" senator, justice, or president in the US moves to ratify the Citizen's Initiatives, roll back restrictions on gun ownership, or push an alternative voting system that doesn't viciously disenfranchise voters on the federal level.

 

[💗Freddie Freaker💗]

Which communities are you talking about, may I ask?

 

[Terrorist]

To be totally honest: As an AuthRight, I'd be fine with things like cancel culture and social media censorship if they worked to my advantage against the left instead of the other way around. Control of culture is a zero-sum game and I'd like to be on the winning side.

 

[Syaoran Li]

To be totally honest: As an AuthRight, I'd be fine with things like cancel culture and social media censorship if they worked to my advantage against the left instead of the other way around. Control of culture is a zero-sum game and I'd like to be on the winning side.

You'd save everyone a lot of time if you just posted this sound byte instead.