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Does sexual abuse turn people gay?
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What a completely fucking retarded take. You're right when you say "If sexual abuse caused homosexuality there would be a lot more gay people in the world." only because you've added the loaded assumption that getting molested necessarily means someone becomes gay. It is much more likely that being molested simply increases the chances someone is gay by some appreciable percentage (I would guess 5-15%).
And just look at this fucking faggots avatar. You should definitely believe him on this topic when he just blurts out "Nope, this topic has been argued about a million times.".
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So you pulled some random number out of your ass that you completely made up and that's not a retarded take?
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The point I was making is that the original post tries to slip in a loaded assumption that getting molested guarantees someone turns gay.
My speculation about the actual effect is just that: speculation. It is entirely an opinion based on my impression of the amount of gays and rates of child molestation so if that meets your definition of an ass-pull then it is an ass-pull. However, I think it's pretty clearly labeled as such ("much more likely", "I would guess") especially compared to the original post which flat out says "Nope", makes an appeal to popularity with no sources, and then presents a loaded hypothetical.
Edit: speeling
Man I love this avatar. It never fails in making retards seethe while trying to argue against something I said.
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If there's not even a correlation between the two from the unfortunately large volume of sexual abuse cases I don't think you can take that to argue any kind of causal relationship.
About all we know for certain is that homosexuality is every bit as ingrained in a person as heterosexuality, it's not something that can be changed. This is especially important to keep in mind when shutting down scams like "conversion therapy", whose proponents are every bit as delusional when it comes to human biology and objective reality as any tranny.
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Yes.
Abuse in general, including sexual abuse. Chemical pollution. Masturbation. Lots of different paths to the same genetic deadend.
Sure, you'll have the furry avatars and the anime avatars all over this thread, denying it up and down. But get them on the psychiatrist's couch for long enough, and the truth comes out. They just have an invested motivation (ie cooming) in maintaining the fiction.
Obviously, by the indisputable fact alone that 99.9% of Generation Z is gay and 101.1% of them have been molested by the Internet since they were old enough to navigate an iPad whereas it's only like 3% for the previous generations when molestation wasn't a universal childhood experience, being molested turns you gay, especially when your mother's eggs were developed in your grandmother's uterus full of microplastics and lead.
Then again, maybe I'm wrong. Why not take a faggot who swears he's never been molested, clone him a statistically significant number of times, raise the clones in all sorts of environments, including ones with no television or Internet, and see if any more of them turn gay than would be predicted by pure chance? I think if we proved that homosexuality has an etyology, then we would have a moral imperative to provide prevention and cure, and that hurts the infected's feelings because they are so proud.
Abuse in general, including sexual abuse. Chemical pollution. Masturbation. Lots of different paths to the same genetic deadend.
Sure, you'll have the furry avatars and the anime avatars all over this thread, denying it up and down. But get them on the psychiatrist's couch for long enough, and the truth comes out. They just have an invested motivation (ie cooming) in maintaining the fiction.
Obviously, by the indisputable fact alone that 99.9% of Generation Z is gay and 101.1% of them have been molested by the Internet since they were old enough to navigate an iPad whereas it's only like 3% for the previous generations when molestation wasn't a universal childhood experience, being molested turns you gay, especially when your mother's eggs were developed in your grandmother's uterus full of microplastics and lead.
Then again, maybe I'm wrong. Why not take a faggot who swears he's never been molested, clone him a statistically significant number of times, raise the clones in all sorts of environments, including ones with no television or Internet, and see if any more of them turn gay than would be predicted by pure chance? I think if we proved that homosexuality has an etyology, then we would have a moral imperative to provide prevention and cure, and that hurts the infected's feelings because they are so proud.
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everything in life is a combination of genetic and environmental factors. on the genetic side: some people you could same-sex molest for a lifetime and they would never be converted, some people they see an attractive same-sex person in a swimsuit once and they're never looking back. those are the extremes, which leaves everyone else in the middle genetics wise. a certain number of people absolutely can be shifted towards homosexuality because of molestation
all of the gays? no
majority of them? no
a shockingly large minority? yes
all of the gays? no
majority of them? no
a shockingly large minority? yes
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In multiple surveys, over multiple decades, 65%+ of Gay men say thier first sexual experience was between the ages of 12-14, with a male over the age of 25. Walter Breen, noted homosexual and pedophile would often remark how important it was to get to boys near puberty before they could be "ruined by a female". The fact that the vast majority of gay men were "guided" in thier homosexuality by older gays, and that the vast majority of gay men lust after boys on the cusp of puberty is an open secret in the gay communuty.
As the sapling is bent, so grows the tree. Fags cant reproduce, so they recruit, and it absolutely is sexual abuse.
As the sapling is bent, so grows the tree. Fags cant reproduce, so they recruit, and it absolutely is sexual abuse.
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There is a correlation. Gay men (and women) report that they've been molested at a significantly higher rate than the general population. See: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11501300/. Further how do you "know for certain is that homosexuality is every bit as ingrained in a person as heterosexuality, it's not something that can be changed." ? Surely after accusing me of an ass-pull regarding my "guess" of what's happening you're not just repeating unfounded dogma as fact right?
I addressed all of your points and also said you have a faggy avatar. I find that you ignored everything in my post except the comment about your avatar very telling.
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Yeah a lot of people seem to have taken my post as to mean that being molested is an insta-gay ticket. I didn't say that. Neither did I claim that most gays are gay cuz they were molested. My point was that from observing the number of gays bis and troons who claim to have been abused, I just suspect that sexual abuse has the possibility to swing someone in that direction.
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I think it is a question as useful as most others asked in psychology, but it is now considered wrongthink, so you won't likely get a good answer based on evidence.
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I may have misspoke a bit when I said "original post" because I was referring to this:
As for your actual original post I think it was exceedingly clear you didn't think getting molested guaranteed someone would become gay. You say as much explicitly:
I also think most of the people that seem to have interpreted your post as saying molestation is a guaranteed ticket to being gay (like @Catler above) are not innocently mis-interpreting your post but maliciously slipping that assumption in just so they can refute it because it's obviously not true. Otherwise they'd have to engage with the idea that sexual abuse increases the chance people become gay (which in turn means they have a higher chance to molest someone which then increases that person's chance to become gay which means... and so on and so forth). And they obviously don't want to engage with that idea as we've seen.
To put it succinctly: Fags reproduce by fucking children and the LGBTQIAPFZHIV+ community uses strawmen to deflect.
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Not everyone diddled becomes a homo, but every homo was diddled
Well, at least until it became cool to be a homo
Well, at least until it became cool to be a homo
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Now you understand why we have a massive stigma against pedophiles. Raping a child leads to extremely unruly outcomes.
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To be entirely honest, contrary to the "born this way" faggot narrative sexuality is very much the product of classical and operant conditioning. There are numerous studies showing how animals can be made to show preference for mating with a doll to the real thing if conditioned properly (contrary to the replication crisis in human psychology, animal research is usually a lot more robust so I am inclined to believe this over some jew doing a survey). This is how kinks develop and this is probably how gay and tranny shit develops.
the thing to remember about molestation is it starts with grooming, making the kid feel special, and very horrifically the abuse is probably mixed in with a lot of positive feelings about the attention they received leading up to the abuse (and in turn a lot of guilt about their role in the situation, or telling someone about the abuse). Its what makes pedophilia especially evil.
You can imagine this fucks people in their head during their formative years where their brain maintains some of these associations. Instead of going through "normal" development as a teen boy making clumsy advances after teen girls, they internalize the idea "my value in a relationship is as a small cute boy so I'll be little twink. Tee hee now all I need is a daddy."
Will everyone molested become a child molester or have lasting homosexual feelings? No.
Is this the only cause of homosexuality? No.
But do these early interactions color sexual patterns for the rest of your life? Yes.
the thing to remember about molestation is it starts with grooming, making the kid feel special, and very horrifically the abuse is probably mixed in with a lot of positive feelings about the attention they received leading up to the abuse (and in turn a lot of guilt about their role in the situation, or telling someone about the abuse). Its what makes pedophilia especially evil.
You can imagine this fucks people in their head during their formative years where their brain maintains some of these associations. Instead of going through "normal" development as a teen boy making clumsy advances after teen girls, they internalize the idea "my value in a relationship is as a small cute boy so I'll be little twink. Tee hee now all I need is a daddy."
Will everyone molested become a child molester or have lasting homosexual feelings? No.
Is this the only cause of homosexuality? No.
But do these early interactions color sexual patterns for the rest of your life? Yes.
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I remember reading a biographical essay from a gay man going over the obsession that gays have with twinks and boyhood. I think you hit the nail on the head with that, and it's disturbing what the twink obsession represents.
The essay by the way: https://archive.org/details/sciambrajoseph-surviving-gay-barely-2017/mode/2up
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Homosexuals are much more likely than the general population to have been molested, so either getting molested increases the likelihood that your sexuality gets fucked up during a critical development phase (unthinkable, humans aren't biological creatures, we're manifestations of the Infinite Id), or homosexuals have a strong instinct for boys who are born with the gay gene, and have an insatiable desire to molest them.
Neither explanation is a particularly good advertisement for homosexuality being healthy.
Neither explanation is a particularly good advertisement for homosexuality being healthy.
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that was a horrifying but really interesting read. if you have more texts like that please link them
i dont think all gays are gay solely because sex abuse but there is a lot of truth to it and predatory experiences are the nail that seals the coffin in the sense that, just like the guy in the essay, there are a lot of guys that are insecure about themselves and sexually confused and so they think theyre gay or find that they are attracted to the same sex and then they get into the gay male community and their sexuality is inforced and validated through what they go through.
im sure lesbians have equally fucked up circunstances but at least they are free of sex pedos and drugs. what DO they have? an absent father and a girl best friend they pine over? beats me. their community seems much more fixated on shit like holding hands.
one of my closest friends used to be a very normal insecure dude and when he came out he started to get involved with a lot of way older men and trying all type of drugs in parties and stuff that honestly he was way too young for. whats worse i know what happened to him is not only common but really tame compared to the shit other guys do. as an outsider its really saddening.
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Child sexual abuse happens plenty among lesbians. One of the most famous examples comes from the autobiographical Vagina Monologues, where the author molesting a little girl is portrayed as 'a good rape'.