Does coomer-ism ruin arts and media? - the negative effect that porn addiction or preoccupation with sex has on the ability to write stories

[No Batty Boys in Jamaica]

It didn’t kill the first few seasons of Game of Thrones. Or Boardwalk Empire. Or Stargate.

Depends on the state of mind of the writers/producers.

Maybe George RR Martin was onto something with the floppy weiners

 

[Mexican_Wizard_711]

Maybe, I mean it does turn certain people into brainless retards. *cough* /co/ *cough*

 

[Trollblade69]

I've started making anime and cartoon watch decisions based on how many doujins a show gets with the porn tags I want from them.

 

[BLACKHAWK_Entropy]

its true but only as disraction writing is easy part overall.

 

[Squanto Airi]

Well it first depends on the terms of coomerism. Is a sex scene and nudity coomerism? Or is just sexually charged dialogue coomerism? Katawa Shoujo has sex scenes, but none of them have any eroticism, they're just awkward people bonding through an awkward moment. Tsukihime (2000) has the sex scenes that were coomer, but I feel they didn't hinder the story (I just wish they were taken out).

I think shipping has a worse affect on arts and media, though imo that's just coomer eroticism of a different variety.

 

[Seafarer]

I disagree with the notion as I think most problems with writing stem from shipping rather than outright pornography.

Come to think of it, I think female creators putting shipping into their works is a mirror to how male creators might put fetish shit into their works. While both can be bad, I think that shipping can be more disastrous because it is fiddling with characters and their interactions with each other, and the creator typically dedicates a lot of the story to shipping making it more obnoxious for people who don’t like it. With fetish shit put in by males (assuming the fetish isn’t the entire point of the story), the fetish stuff usually takes place as a one off scene or with just a single episode dedicated to it.

 

[Trollblade69]

I think most problems with writing stem from shipping rather than outright pornography. New writers spent their youth consuming and producing Tumblr shipping content, leading to a throwing away of premises just to dive into what character should end up with what character. These fandom interactions that play out as Death Battle for women and gays make up the bulk of new-age western writers.

I mostly disagree with that. Most of the entertainment I got out of Star Vs was based heavily in the amount of shipping displayed in the show. While I hate hate HATE where the show eventually went with it, that was due to the execution of it - breaking up their best couple, kicking one of the best characters out of the show, and then completely fumbling the pairing they wanted to go with. It's a demerit on the writers for not understanding audience reception and instead being dumbasses ignorant of how their story had evolved.
And that's not even getting into the deluge of good and/or hilarious content that show managed to generate. Some of my hardest laughs these past couple years have been browsing /co/ archives reading and looking at the OC and greentexts produced by big shows like Star or Adventure Time or Konosuba. Not to mention all the porn they inspired.

 

[Basic Blond Boy]

Come to think of it, I think female creators putting shipping into their works is a mirror to how male creators might put fetish shit into their works. While both can be bad, I think that shipping can be more disastrous because it is fiddling with characters and their interactions with each other, and the creator typically dedicates a lot of the story to shipping making it more obnoxious for people who don’t like it. With fetish shit put in by males (assuming the fetish isn’t the entire point of the story), the fetish stuff usually takes place as a one off scene or with just a single episode dedicated to it.

Shipping's closest comparison would likely be pointless fight scenes and power level sperging. Cape comics are notorious for this as how many times has Batman or Joker ruined a narrative by pulling instant wins out of their ass because they need to consistently look cool and be above characters way stronger than them. Or worse, you get Injustice where characters personalities completely shift so Bat-Chad can solo the JL.

I mostly disagree with that. Most of the entertainment I got out of Star Vs was based heavily in the amount of shipping displayed in the show. While I hate hate HATE where the show eventually went with it, that was due to the execution of it - breaking up their best couple, kicking one of the best characters out of the show, and then completely fumbling the pairing they wanted to go with. It's a demerit on the writers for not understanding audience reception and instead being dumbasses ignorant of how their story had evolved.
And that's not even getting into the deluge of good and/or hilarious content that show managed to generate. Some of my hardest laughs these past couple years have been browsing /co/ archives reading and looking at the OC and greentexts produced by big shows like this, Adventure Time and Steven Universe. Not to mention all the porn they inspired.

I feel like you sort of proved my point. All those shows mentioned suffered as a result of it. I personally had fun with Adventure Time, but the shipping for that show very obviously killed it later on. Bubbline still feels incredibly forced and a fandom decision rather than what the show was building too.

 

[GilaCutter]

Shipping isn't inherently bad

The hell it isn't

 

[Trollblade69]

I feel like you sort of proved my point. Shipping isn't inherently bad, but all those shows mentioned suffered as a result of it. I personally had fun with Adventure Time, but the shipping for that show very obviously killed it later on. Bubbline still feels incredibly forced and a fandom decision rather than what the show was building too.

AT starts to become really overloaded with forgettable and crap episodes midway through season 5, though. The shipping probably could've been what kept people hooked through the malaise if it was handled properly. It's nobody's fault but the writers for having crap material for Bubbline and butchering all of Finn's relationships without any coherent purpose.

 

[Male Idiot]

Maybe George RR Martin was onto something with the floppy weiners

It made a great South Park song.

I think shipping is worse. Coomer stuff can be kept to adult materials, but shipping a retarded skibidi toilet shit like Adventure time? That's how it gets to too young audiences.

Hot North Korean Girls Makeout for Otaku King isn't shoved in 8 year olds' faces.

 

[Mac Monster]

I'd say commer-ism is a subset of a far bigger issue in modern media. Sex appeal has always been a part of media, but the rampant degeneracy we see today is just the result of the faggot acceptance movement which insists that degenerates be respected no matter how vile and disgusting they are.