Does anyone else genuinely miss the 2000s?

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Shit was so much simpler to understand and peaceful back in the 2000's. Exciting movies and vidya, new technologies coming out, the internet in general... And you could call a man a faggot and get away with it in public.

Then of course, it all melts away when we reach 2012 or so. Now here we are, stuck in a world where stating the wrong opinion to the wrong person could get you literally erased from all social and job related futures. You can't go out for a drink without some bint or fuck head going "WHERE'S YOUR MASK BRO" and having a miniature spaz out over your missing magic totem on your mouth. You can't talk to people about the simplest shit without them going "HOW'S ABOUT DRUMPHF, HUH? WHAT A DUMMY!" because of an innate desire to be a fucking modern day inquisitor.

I wish I could just shoot away the problem(s) that caused my peaceful 2000's to go away. Can't I just have one more year of peace without somebody shoving Buzzfeed down my throat? Without someone saying me liking a certain game or movie is sexist, ablest and transphobic at the same time? Without somebody inspecting the way I posture myself when the local "BLACK KINGS AND QWEENS" swoop in and cause shit to go down? Without having to hide my true self before everybody but my closest relatives and friends, lest I cease to exist in this climate?

I just wanna shoot baddies in vidya and laugh at dumb shit on the tellie, not pretend somebody I'm not because some shitheel in drag said so.
 
only have decent memory of the second half of the decade. I do remember hit radio music being much more listenable compared to now. Got a soft spot for mediocre sappy white people music because of it. From what I've gone back and played, the early to mid 2000s carried over a gaming golden age from the late 90s. I only got in on the tail end of mmos not being shit so I would like to go back to the better years of them.
 
JongleJingle dijo:
Shit was so much simpler to understand and peaceful back in the 2000's. Exciting movies and vidya, new technologies coming out, the internet in general... And you could call a man a faggot and get away with it in public.

Then of course, it all melts away when we reach 2012 or so. Now here we are, stuck in a world where stating the wrong opinion to the wrong person could get you literally erased from all social and job related futures. You can't go out for a drink without some bint or fuck head going "WHERE'S YOUR MASK BRO" and having a miniature spaz out over your missing magic totem on your mouth. You can't talk to people about the simplest shit without them going "HOW'S ABOUT DRUMPHF, HUH? WHAT A DUMMY!" because of an innate desire to be a fucking modern day inquisitor.

I wish I could just shoot away the problem(s) that caused my peaceful 2000's to go away. Can't I just have one more year of peace without somebody shoving Buzzfeed down my throat? Without someone saying me liking a certain game or movie is sexist, ablest and transphobic at the same time? Without somebody inspecting the way I posture myself when the local "BLACK KINGS AND QWEENS" swoop in and cause shit to go down? Without having to hide my true self before everybody but my closest relatives and friends, lest I cease to exist in this climate?

I just wanna shoot baddies in vidya and laugh at dumb shit on the tellie, not pretend somebody I'm not because some shitheel in drag said so.
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Given that decade had the news full of Afghanistan and Iraq, not to mention the end of the Second Congo War and South Sudanese war of independence which left millions dead and displaced, I wouldn't exactly describe it as "peaceful". At least nowadays more people are trying to work towards middle eastern peace agreements, successfully or otherwise.
 
Pointless Pedant dijo:
Given that decade had the news full of Afghanistan and Iraq, not to mention the end of the Second Congo War and South Sudanese war of independence which left millions dead and displaced, I wouldn't exactly describe it as "peaceful". At least nowadays more people are trying to work towards middle eastern peace agreements, successfully or otherwise.
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For most people in this thread the 00s nostalgia is centered around being able to stay immersed in their personal first world bubble more easily and ignore that the world was already very shitty and awful shit was happening under their noses.

Its kinda pampered and selfish but there´s a point to that too i guess, is just not cool when the mainstream culture is selling panic and distrust, often for no reason and i get americans having trouble adjusting to that level of social friction and conflict. My country was going down the shitter in the 00s economically, socially, politically, pretty much in every way, but even i have nostalgia for the ability to just find some escapism in my own free time away from it. It was shit but there was some cope.

One thing i believe a lot of people see with rose tinted glasses is the old internet. I really don't remember it ever being so free to start with, most forums had little tyrants as mods who would ban people for whatever they thought of as being rude and information was also more scarce and harder to contrast with sources. Now is super easy to look for something and find a million articles, pdf books, discussions, etc, back then you had to really lurk.
 
LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV] dijo:
I really don't remember it ever being so free to start with, most forums had little tyrants as mods who would ban people for whatever they thought of as being rude and information was also more scarce and harder to contrast with sources.
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You couldn't be banned on Usenet for literally anything and even if someone could get you kicked off an ISP it was trivial to circumvent it. The only exception was a tiny handful of moderated newsgroups in which only the moderator could approve articles to be posted in advance so even there you couldn't really be "banned," they just didn't actually have to post your message.
 
AnOminous dijo:
You couldn't be banned on Usenet for literally anything and even if someone could get you kicked off an ISP it was trivial to circumvent it. The only exception was a tiny handful of moderated newsgroups in which only the moderator could approve articles to be posted in advance so even there you couldn't really be "banned," they just didn't actually have to post your message.
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Isn´t Usenet like caveman stuff from the 90s? In the 2000s i mostly remember forums, chat rooms and the proto social networks like DA or Myspace. I feel anyone dedicated enough to circumvent moderation and censorship back then would be equally capable of doing it now and it will probably be more retard friendly too, without the need of extra tech literacy even.
 
I came of age in the late 70s, but I really miss the 80s.
The movies, books, music just seemed better, the clothing was fun and bright, you could have an opinion and not be crucified for it, people had better manners and were more polite, and so on.

The only good things about the 2000s to me were having my second child, and my oldest cheeselet giving me grandchildren.
I have so much fear for the kids now, how are they going to navigate life without offending someone? Where telling someone good morning can get you fired?
 
LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV] dijo:
For most people in this thread the 00s nostalgia is centered around being able to stay immersed in their personal first world bubble more easily and ignore that the world was already very shitty and awful shit was happening under their noses.

Its kinda pampered and selfish but there´s a point to that too i guess, is just not cool when the mainstream culture is selling panic and distrust, often for no reason and i get americans having trouble adjusting to that level of social friction and conflict. My country was going down the shitter in the 00s economically, socially, politically, pretty much in every way, but even i have nostalgia for the ability to just find some escapism in my own free time away from it. It was shit but there was some cope.

One thing i believe a lot of people see with rose tinted glasses is the old internet. I really don't remember it ever being so free to start with, most forums had little tyrants as mods who would ban people for whatever they thought of as being rude and information was also more scarce and harder to contrast with sources. Now is super easy to look for something and find a million articles, pdf books, discussions, etc, back then you had to really lurk.
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The big difference is there were thousands of active discussion boards that would have maybe a few hundredactive posters each. Random fan sites would have communities with 200 active posters in them. Now there's maybe a few the size of Kiwi Farms and all other discussion is concentrated around five or six big sites(4Chan, Reddit, Facebook, Twitter, Reddit). Sure, there are still thousands of sites with like ten active users, but who wants to post on a board with ten active users?

Here's an analogy... In the early 2000s there were a bunch of small cities and if you didn't like one you had plenty of places you could move to. Now there are a half dozen mega cities and if you get kicked out or don't want to live there you're doomed to wander the wilderness.

You're talking about something that was highly decentralized turning into something highly centralized. That's the issue.
 
Cheesegirl78 dijo:
I came of age in the late 70s, but I really miss the 80s.
The movies, books, music just seemed better, the clothing was fun and bright, you could have an opinion and not be crucified for it, people had better manners and were more polite, and so on.

The only good things about the 2000s to me were having my second child, and my oldest cheeselet giving me grandchildren.
I have so much fear for the kids now, how are they going to navigate life without offending someone? Where telling someone good morning can get you fired?
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I find this interesting, since if you're American crime and urban decay were at a major high in the 1980s. Before this year's social breakdown, cities were relatively peaceful by comparison in the 2010s. NYC had over 1000 murders a year back then.

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In the 2000s the future was happening, it was something you could literally touch with your hands in some cases. People had hope, even after 9/11, because we were still trucking along, we still could see the golden prize. In the 2010s social groups tried to decide who got to have the future. The people burned and razed lives, stopped progress, and worst of all for some reason tried to crown themselves the inventors of the idea of hope. All because you decided to hang out with group B, or even worse, treat group B fairly.
 
Pointless Pedant dijo:
I find this interesting, since if you're American crime and urban decay were at a major high in the 1980s. Before this year's social breakdown, cities were relatively peaceful by comparison in the 2010s. NYC had over 1000 murders a year back then.

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Funny thing about statistics; they don’t always tell the full story. I supposedly live in one of the top ten most dangerous cities in the US; but personally I feel pretty safe. But then I don’t live in one of the few “dangerous” neighborhoods (joggers). My recollection of the 80’s is similar. Statistically it may have been more dangerous but most crime was very localized and easily avoided unless you were unfortunate enough to have to live in certain zip codes.
(On a more topical note; damn, I miss the 80’s)
 
Jesus Goldstein dijo:
Funny thing about statistics; they don’t always tell the full story. I supposedly live in one of the top ten most dangerous cities in the US; but personally I feel pretty safe. But then I don’t live in one of the few “dangerous” neighborhoods (joggers). My recollection of the 80’s is similar. Statistically it may have been more dangerous but most crime was very localized and easily avoided unless you were unfortunate enough to have to live in certain zip codes.
(On a more topical note; damn, I miss the 80’s)
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But you're saying that's still true, since you don't live in the sketchy neighbourhoods.

Looking at cities like Chicago now, crime is still very concentrated.

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Pointless Pedant dijo:
But you're saying that's still true, since you don't live in the sketchy neighbourhoods.

Looking at cities like Chicago now, crime is still very concentrated.

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All very true, my only point was that: though the 80’s were more violent statistically, it was still localized and thus would not have loomed large in many people’s recollections.

Now that I think about it, I wonder if it was a function of news coverage of the time? I seem to remember terrorism grabbing more headlines than the usual jogger on jogger violence.
 
Jesus Goldstein dijo:
All very true, my only point was that: though the 80’s were more violent statistically, it was still localized and thus would not have loomed large in many people’s recollections.

Now that I think about it, I wonder if it was a function of news coverage of the time? I seem to remember terrorism grabbing more headlines than the usual jogger on jogger violence.
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I wasn't an adult in the 80s, but my dad was. When I was a child in the late 80s I recall him watching the supper time news and reading the paper on the toilet in the morning and that was it. Now he literally has CBC News Network on 24/7 and doesn't get off Facebook. You're going from a couple of hours of news consumption a day to literally every waking hour spent consuming news and it's made everyone insane. That's literally the root cause of the bulk of the problems people talk about here from pop culture constantly being politicized so it makes the news cycle to mass hysteria stocked by the news cycle leading to censoring bad people on the internet.
 
Never Scored dijo:
I wasn't an adult in the 80s, but my dad was. When I was a child in the late 80s I recall him watching the supper time news and reading the paper on the toilet in the morning and that was it. Now he literally has CBC News Network on 24/7 and doesn't get off Facebook. You're going from a couple of hours of news consumption a day to literally every waking hour spent consuming news and it's made everyone insane. That's literally the root cause of the bulk of the problems people talk about here from pop culture constantly being politicized so it makes the news cycle to mass hysteria stocked by the news cycle leading to censoring bad people on the internet.
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Do you think the average person spends every waking hour consuming news? I don't think that's typical at all, never mind universal.
 
Never Scored dijo:
In US/Canada? Yeah I think it's pretty typical if you include news consumed through facebook/twitter. Not universal though.
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It's definitely not in Britain. I can count on my hands the number of times I've heard political conversations at pubs, even including election seasons. Might be different in central London but I don't know.
 
Jesus Goldstein dijo:
Funny thing about statistics; they don’t always tell the full story. I supposedly live in one of the top ten most dangerous cities in the US; but personally I feel pretty safe. But then I don’t live in one of the few “dangerous” neighborhoods (joggers). My recollection of the 80’s is similar. Statistically it may have been more dangerous but most crime was very localized and easily avoided unless you were unfortunate enough to have to live in certain zip codes.
(On a more topical note; damn, I miss the 80’s)
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I can't speak for the entire country, but apparently New York City was ludicrously dangerous in the '80s, before Giuliani cleaned it up.
The New York Times used to run a shuttle bus from its location at the time on 43rd St. to the Port Authority Bus Terminal for its employees who commuted from New Jersey, because it was too dangerous to make the walk after dark.

This is the walk.
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229 W 43rd St to Port Authority Midtown Bus Terminal

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