Do You Want Kids? - General "Have Kids!" Sperging Thread [for or against that sentiment]

[weirdMcGee]

A lot of folks online who dislike the left go too far in the other direction. A 20-30 year old tradcon is honestly pretty pathetic, it reeks of limited life experience and resentment.

I've encountered someone who was like this, barely in their 20s, just starting college, had some trad opinions for the most part. Not expecting them to change too much but harboring such ideas in a day and age where the nuclear family is just not feasible will always be alien to me. Despite that, I still want to have a child of some kind and I hope they do too.

since there's more guys willing to have children that have so few options in terms of finding good mother material, I guess i'm not too screwed. I just have problems with my own mental wellbeing and body that I think need to work on that first before I can find someone to start a family with. There's also the fact men my age are too far backwards in their expectations due to pornsickness and unrealistic ideas of what a woman is that finding a good man may be be challenging lol.

Spoiler

I just don't wanna get sexually taken a advantage of from a man.

 

[Ultrapenguin]

I just have problems with my own mental wellbeing and body that I think need to work on that first before I can find someone to start a family with.

The sad part is that people who have a more healthy outlook, that they need to learn to be ok with themselves before they bring other people into their life, tend to be the ones who get left behind nowadays.

I look at a dude like Peetz over in beauty parlor, guys like him can be broke, unemployed, fat, angry tards who spend all day literally shrieking at people on the internet, incessantly indulging in lesbian fetishism, they can't cook, they know no trades, they look like they're on their way to dying by age 50, and yet the first thing they do upon moving in (to someone else's place)? Go make a dating profile.

It's honestly totally alien to me. Don't they have shame? Do they not feel like they have some obligation to be the kind of person someone should want to be with? But there's a breed of person who simply doesn't care. If someone like him met a woman who said she wanted to have a child, he'd go along with it, and it would be a disaster.

People don't have to be perfect to be parents or spouses, nobody's perfect. But someone should at very least feel like being a good loyal partner and parent is a priority, and we live in a weird, bleak situation where people who feel that way seem like they're at a major disadvantage.

 

[Spob]

Dunno if I wanna wait till my mid 30s to have kids, since I'm not sure if I'd like to increase the chances of them having the 'tism, though this is clearly becoming more and more impractical in today's economy.

But I guess I'm already fucked in that respect, cause that's what my parents did to end up with me. (shrug) Pretty sure I'm the first one in my family with the 'tism too.

You think I could lower the odds by choosing a clearly normal mate, or is my family line fucked?

 

[weirdMcGee]

The sad part is that people who have a more healthy outlook, that they need to learn to be ok with themselves before they bring other people into their life, tend to be the ones who get left behind nowadays.

I look at a dude like Peetz over in beauty parlor, guys like him can be broke, unemployed, fat, angry tards who spend all day literally shrieking at people on the internet, incessantly indulging in lesbian fetishism, they can't cook, they know no trades, they look like they're on their way to dying by age 50, and yet the first thing they do upon moving in (to someone else's place)? Go make a dating profile.

It's honestly totally alien to me. Don't they have shame? Do they not feel like they have some obligation to be the kind of person someone should want to be with? But there's a breed of person who simply doesn't care. If someone like him met a woman who said she wanted to have a child, he'd go along with it, and it would be a disaster.

People don't have to be perfect to be parents or spouses, nobody's perfect. But someone should at very least feel like being a good loyal partner and parent is a priority, and we live in a weird, bleak situation where people who feel that way seem like they're at a major disadvantage.

There's also the fact I feel my days are sort of numbered in terms of giving birth to a normal child since I cucked myself out of driver's license due to sheer incompetence. Any freedom I would have has been delayed for a few years. I guess that means I have to get my shit together at 27 and If that doesn't happen i'm fucked.

And on the topic of mentally unwell people thinking they're fit to a be a parent, just don't. You're only going to screw your would-be child over with your horrible excuse for parenting. Trust me, I was raised by two folks who seem a bit fucked if at least well meaning in their eyes and I know for a fact I panned out as paranoid introvert with crippling anxiety. On top being born when my parents were probably older may have had an effect on my mental facilities me thinks.

I sort of blame modern society for making it harder and harder to have kids young and thus less likely to have issues in the future. When you're so busy wage slaving till your grave you don't have time to find someone. Once it's too late either both you and them might not have plans for a child for obvious reasons because the economy is stacked against you despite also expecting future workers in their workforce out your would-be kids. It these condictary standards of trying to run a society that ends up harming more people than helping and those back to monke guys were cooking something good when it came to critiquing this sort of stuff. Humans weren't meant to staring at screens all day wiling away their time doing jackshit, they were meant to sit around campfires talking about their daily hunts, what they saw along their walks, and working together in small communes for the betterment of their survival. Hell, kids were less of a handful when you had several other people taking the mantle when mom wanted to focus on other things. Yet society force feds us this nuclear family meme that can only be afforded by the rich and most well off of people. The shits a pipedream for the lowliest of workers and might stay that way if something is not changed about it.

But what do I know, i'm just a autist trying to fight back the fate life dealt me no matter the odds because I won't let it hold me back no matter what. Mother nature can go shove herself in the ass since i'm gonna make my own family whether she likes it or not. Shit be dammed.

 

[Smug]

I cucked myself out of driver's license due to sheer incompetence. Any freedom I would have has been delayed for a few years. I guess that means I have to get my shit together at 27 and If that doesn't happen i'm fucked.

That sucks, though now's definitely a time to not give up on pulling yourself together. Save any abject despair for when you're in your mid-30s and try to do what you can to find opportunities while it's still realistic. You're not fucked yet-Not that phrasing, you know what I mean.

 

[Ser Prize]

I want kids, despite it all. It's real hard finding a girl that's immune to the liberal mind viruses, though. Makes me glad us men have a longer shelf life.

 

[scallion]

And on the topic of mentally unwell people thinking they're fit to a be a parent, just don't. You're only going to screw your would-be child over with your horrible excuse for parenting. Trust me, I was raised by two folks who seem a bit fucked if at least well meaning in their eyes and I know for a fact I panned out as paranoid introvert with crippling anxiety. On top being born when my parents were probably older may have had an effect on my mental facilities me thinks.

Yeah...

 

[Mecha-King Ghidorah]

Had my first kid recently (PL?), it's hard to imagine having done anything else now. Guys looking for wife/mother material should look towards hispanic women, there's still a strong family focus in their cultures that is slipping away among Millennial white women.

 

[Saint Agustin]

I want kids, despite it all. It's real hard finding a girl that's immune to the liberal mind viruses, though. Makes me glad us men have a longer shelf life.

But you can find a girl easily. The fact is not about finding a girl, but finding someone who complements you in the long haul that makes you feel good.

I say this to everyone: Be a King. Don't simp. Hold yourself to high standards.

If you respect yourself, people will respect you. Held your head high, never let your crown slip.

 

[Corpun]

Yes but I'm worried about the world they will grow into. Not the global warming dooming stuff, but the society they will be part of. You can't insulate kids forever from their surroundings.

 

[Unexpected Genitals]

For various reasons I've decided I won't be having biological children, and to be honest, by the time I get my life stable and productive and in a position where I could give them the time and support they deserve, I'll probably be on the tail end or entirely out of my safe fertility window. I'm also just not really interested in a family right now, I can barely hold myself together and I don't really want a partner.

That being said, if in the future I change my mind, I'm not at all averse to adopting a child. Back when I was dating my boyfriend, who was Korean, he didn't want bio kids either and we would joke about adopting a kid from Korea and just telling everyone they took after him more than me.

 

[Jean ValJean]

I have two grown sons whom I love dearly and I don't regret having kids for one second.

That said, I have no issue with anyone who says they don't want kids. I would rather see someone who does not want kids to be childless than have kids just because they think that's what is expected of them and then neglect and/or abuse them.

Raising kids is a long, difficult, demanding job that you definitely have to be committed to for the long term.

As far as the white population dying out, I seriously doubt that's ever going to happen.

 

[Equal Rights for Androids]

Every time I consider having a kid the reasons I would want to are selfish. Like having someone to take care of me later in life, not dying alone/ having someone worthy of giving all my expensive shit to. And with what I see as a decline of individual freedom and opportunity for true independence in the world today . I just can't see myself having them.

Once androids are built to be pretty much a replica of a human, you will never have to worry about those first two fears. The third fear can be resolved by donating it to charity.

The only genes I have that are worth passing on is my inherited IQ. Because there are more negative than positive aspects of my genetics, I voluntarily will never reproduce despite men being interested in me. Sex disinterests me and I don't get horny, so win-win I guess. Once I retire, I'll adopt a kid and transfer my ideals to them. My ideas are what I want to live on beyond me, not my genetics.

 

[Ser Prize]

But you can find a girl easily. The fact is not about finding a girl, but finding someone who complements you in the long haul that makes you feel good.

I say this to everyone: Be a King. Don't simp. Hold yourself to high standards.

If you respect yourself, people will respect you. Held your head high, never let your crown slip.

I'm not American, so the hispanic population is pretty low here. Also I'm very racist, which contributes to my dating woes.

Not because I refuse to date coloured women, though. I'd date a black chick if she hated joggers as much as I did.

 

[Meiwaku]

I don't particularly feel strongly for it... But like most things, I must autistically dissect them.

My health is not built for pregnancy. If I did, I would probably adopt. Likely an older kid because everyone deserves to be wanted and have a family.

I honestly don't think I could give a child the time and attention they deserve. My mother is the most amazing woman I've ever met in my life and was perfect in every way and a mother that everyone deserves to have. My friends growing up always wanted to come over and get motherly advice from her. I got very very lucky. Luckier than any child of mine would be to have me. She is so good that I do not think I could ever follow that act for anything I mimick is but a mockery of her natural perfection. This is not a statement of some self-abating loathsomeness, but simply a statement of her absolutely natural loveliness.

I also am not in a position to stay at home and thus they'd have to deal with being in my office, daycare, nanny, me being away often etc. It's not really healthy. I also don't want people pozzloading my hellspawn and despite being an alphabet member it's honestly embarassing with what trannies are doing, I'm also multicultural and would want them to learn more of the world than just the country they're in.

Genetic inheritance is also an issue because nature is a hoe. My poor traits would give someone a lifetime of physical health issues, and sped level ADHD.... where my good ones would easily make someone a confident, creative, intelligent/educated, attractive and successful person.

I feel a strange societal burden in terms of socially feeling like I failed my ancestors as a human by not reproducing. This has nothing to do with my womanhood, but moreso that millions of years this has gone on and it feels odd to opt out of the game. But I feel this way in many respects of my life. The fact that I have a choice to say "no" where for most of human history this has not been true makes me wonder that perhaps this is something my ancestors dreamed of.

I'm in a privileged position to be able to choose my destiny, love who i want, fuck who i want, and breed with who I want... Or do none of the above. This ability to choose is simply why I do certain things in my life because perhaps in a previous timeline it would have been utterly impossible.

As you can see, my priorities are different, I suppose. I enjoy kids and see them as people not just "kids". But I'm in the "it takes a village" mindset to where I'd want to be the person that is the auntie who gives them back snd doesn't have to pay max $$$$ for them. I'm a mentor personality type and it's what I love to do. I'm not a caregiver.

Also I'm not even married or dating so this is basically entirely theoretical.

 

[Paul Lives!]

I find myself wanting kids very badly from time to time, for entirely monkey brained and selfish reasons. I love my wife very much, and having often kids just feels like the instinctual and natural thing to do to express that. I just feel like this fucked up world has very little to offer a child, though. Then again I think you have to be a bit selfish to have kids, and maybe that selfishness isn't such a bad thing.

 

[Lightning]

I've felt like your average r/antinatalist fag for a while, but as I got older the idea doesn't seem too bad anymore.

To doom a bit, I looked at my room's contents the other week and I felt this sad pang thinking, "This is nice, but who's gonna have this when I'm gone? Is my autistic collection doomed to be tossed into a landfill?", thus the idea of leaving a legacy is appealing. None of us can take anything across the river Styx, so you should leave it to your children.

Except, I'm more than aware having them is a large time commitment. One only has to look at this site to see what happens when you have godawful parents who couldn't fry an egg. If you're gonna have kids, then should give them the best possible upbringing you can give them; help them avoid the same pitfalls you did growing up, and not just let them spend all day on computers and tablets. Not to mention nowadays you have to keep a lookout for the troon groomers...

So yeah, if I were to find a good woman I'd go with it. Not that I intend to, since committed faggot relationship like some others here, but it's good to challenge your past cringe beliefs.

 

[The Last Stand]

Why do people want kids?

 

[Apochrypha]

Oh boy.

The thought of having children scares me, especially in the world we live in today. I would like to tap into my maternal and parental instincts and have a child of my own someday - but at the same time finding someone to settle down with nowadays is difficult. Hell even dating is abysmal. Especially when your only choices of men your age are coomers who jerk off to anime tiddies and want to fuck e-girls or chauvinist incel retards who think women are trophies.

I'm still young so I have time to spare, but every woman in my family had a kid by 25. I've got a while until then but the clock is ticking.

Since I also have some mental and physical problems of my own my biggest worry would be passing these down to my children. It's bad enough that I have them and I wouldn't wish them on anyone let alone my own kids.

 

[Nicholas II of Russia]

I don't want any of my hypothetical kids to go suffer in this god forsaken world. I would prefer rather living this world just surviving with the girl I love.