Do you believe in soulmates?

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amendment for the convenience of the soulless "muh science" redditors: i am not asking whether there exist one perfect person to establish a productive domicile with and raise the GDP, i am asking if you believe that your other half exists, the only other soul you can truly connect with
 
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Yes, there's inevitably two people who are most compatible with each other in the world. However our current culture makes it near impossible for them to meet each other despite it being easier than ever to meet more people. It's weird and fucked up.
Doomer take: just because someone is perfect for you doesn't mean you're perfect for them.

In other words, you're probably not your soulmate's soulmate.
 
the older i get, the more i think back over all the girls from my past i could have ended up with if things were just a bit different. love takes more than just two compatible people. rather, it takes two, plus an amalgam of happy circumstances that allow those people to get to know each other better than anyone else and grow a friendship, kind of like cultivating a plant. you need the right seeds, of course, but you need a lot of other conditions as well.
 
I'm soulmate agnostic
I believe in something like Jung’s collective subconscious, and I believe that randomness, at least as we ascribe it as an explanation wherever an outcome is too complicated to track the causality behind, is illusory.
I used to think this but it seems like observable phenomena at the very smallest levels of reality contradict this through things like quantum mechanics, which suggests to me that chaos is a baked-in part of reality. As such I reject determinism and embrace some limited degree of human agency and free will.
 
I don't, but it's a cute notion and people should believe in it.
I like your answer a lot, because it's very rare that a person who doesnt believe in it, is not becoming bitter and jaded. You ain't bitter, nor jaded. To me it means there's a part of you that wants to believe in soulmates, and for that reason alone i wish you to meet your other half and experience a beautiful thing, just as Lidl Drip described earlier on
 
Doomer take: just because someone is perfect for you doesn't mean you're perfect for them.

In other words, you're probably not your soulmate's soulmate.
I guess I take "soul mate" to include the idea that you are also fulfilling all their desires as well as your own. If they're perfect for you but you're not perfect for them, I don't consider that person "soul mate", probably just an ideal.
 
No. And I think it's actually a big reason why marriages in some Western countries rarely end in divorce (Ireland 0.6 in 1000) and others its far more frequent (US 14.5 in 1000), especially Anglo/Protestant ones.

The notion that you will have this star struck moment of rapture that lasts a lifetime is a very modern invention. Great sex, great conversation, perpetual lust. The British and their offspring nations in part developed this idea, and have one of the highest divorce rates as a result.

Other nations, particuarly Former Catholic and Nordic ones; even today don't seem to have bought into this as much. It's nice if you feel those things for a spouse, but there is an awareness that its rarely lifelong and some qualities or duties matter more.

The role of cultured salon leader, buisness partner, wife and courtesan historically sometimes overlap but are rarely ever found all in one. To expect all things from one person, forever, is really quite a significant imposition.

People expect marriage to be some sort of bliss point. It really isn't. It can be an amazing thing, but people expect entirely the wrong things from it.

It isn't magical, there isn't some special person ordained by providence to be "Your one" who accepts you fully as you are. Adapt, compromise, and don't be a prick.
 
I think they're more likely to be made than found.
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I don't, but it's a cute notion and people should believe in it.
I agree, just like religion for me I’d much rather people believe in something that may/may not exist than to not believe in anything at all.
 
Not too much of a thing I've really spent anytime thinking about. Soulmates could exist and there could be multiple ones out there for people. I do feel lucky though as I have found a man I am very compatible with and the threads of fate have spun together so that we both met and now want the same things out of life. I think still calling each other soulmates puts too much pressure on the whole thing, but it doesn't damper any enthusiasm I have for the relationship. Just nothing I think about and am simply enjoying things one day at a time.
 
No. And I think it's actually a big reason why marriages in some Western countries rarely end in divorce (Ireland 0.6 in 1000) and others its far more frequent (US 14.5 in 1000), especially Anglo/Protestant ones.
Really? I actually think it’s more of a “selfish asshole” type of situation where the culture has been uprooted by constant “living your best life” style messaging. Americans, at least, just don’t believe in anything as wholesome and mundane as being happily married. We’re supposed consume the dopamine and the oxytocin, betray eachother, and try again for that “new relationship energy”.
The notion that you will have this star struck moment of rapture that lasts a lifetime is a very modern invention. Great sex, great conversation, perpetual lust. The British and their offspring nations in part developed this idea, and have one of the highest divorce rates as a result.
Except if, you know, you have kids and your relationship matures.

A rational person understands that literal illegal drug tolerance works the same way. Your neurotransmitter receptors are the thing that desensitizes, so constant euphoria is not physically possible for human beings.
Other nations, particuarly Former Catholic and Nordic ones; even today don't seem to have bought into this as much. It's nice if you feel those things for a spouse, but there is an awareness that it’s rarely lifelong and some qualities or duties matter more.
There’s a flavor of love that applies to people who have qualities and fulfill duties.
The role of cultured salon leader, buisness partner, wife and courtesan historically sometimes overlap but are rarely ever found all in one. To expect all things from one person, forever, is really quite a significant imposition.

People expect marriage to be some sort of bliss point. It really isn't. It can be an amazing thing, but people expect entirely the wrong things from it.

It isn't magical, there isn't some special person ordained by providence to be "Your one" who accepts you fully as you are. Adapt, compromise, and don't be a prick.
Just admit you’re bitter
 
No. And I think it's actually a big reason why marriages in some Western countries rarely end in divorce (Ireland 0.6 in 1000) and others its far more frequent (US 14.5 in 1000), especially Anglo/Protestant ones.

The notion that you will have this star struck moment of rapture that lasts a lifetime is a very modern invention. Great sex, great conversation, perpetual lust. The British and their offspring nations in part developed this idea, and have one of the highest divorce rates as a result.

Other nations, particuarly Former Catholic and Nordic ones; even today don't seem to have bought into this as much. It's nice if you feel those things for a spouse, but there is an awareness that its rarely lifelong and some qualities or duties matter more.

The role of cultured salon leader, buisness partner, wife and courtesan historically sometimes overlap but are rarely ever found all in one. To expect all things from one person, forever, is really quite a significant imposition.

People expect marriage to be some sort of bliss point. It really isn't. It can be an amazing thing, but people expect entirely the wrong things from it.

It isn't magical, there isn't some special person ordained by providence to be "Your one" who accepts you fully as you are. Adapt, compromise, and don't be a prick.
:like:I'm giving you a like because your LARP as an oversocialized dumb cattle soulless HR Karen is exceptionally good
 
I'm soulmate agnostic

I used to think this but it seems like observable phenomena at the very smallest levels of reality contradict this through things like quantum mechanics, which suggests to me that chaos is a baked-in part of reality. As such I reject determinism and embrace some limited degree of human agency and free will.
I think the future already happened and we’re constrained in how we’re able to perceive time. I mean, all time exists simultaneously.

It’s the kind of thing that drives autists crazy, but we at the very least need to face up to the fact that the universe is more complicated than we have the hardware to perceive. Example: everyone can draw a cube shape to represent three dimensions. Nobody can draw a geometric shape to represent four without cheating and slapping some sort of nomenclature on it
 
I think the future already happened and we’re constrained in how we’re able to perceive time. I mean, all time exists simultaneously.
Put another way, all futures are possible but collapse into one upon impact with an observer. Chaos and uncertainty can still exist in these circumstances, imo.
 
Can you have a platonic relationship with your soulmate? Can it be only friendship? Can your dog be your soulmate?
My position is - yes to *first two. Most people can only really open up with a person that they're very intimate with, or the one they constantly spend the time with, which would be a spouse. But, that's not the reality for many others. It all depends on what your soul is filled with - does it seek inspiration? love? loyalty? building life together? observing life together, understanding it in the same way?

It doesn't have to be the person you're sleeping with, it could be some rando friend that you see once a year, but when you see him and when you're having a laugh, you feel whole again. And he will never influence your life that much, and you won't think of him much throughout the year - but you just know that he's the only other human being that really gets you.

*upon further consideration, i am not sure about dogs. I think when it comes to dogs, there is a lot of projection going on. Also, dogs go to doggie heaven, but they dont really have souls
 
Put another way, all futures are possible but collapse into one upon impact with an observer. Chaos and uncertainty can still exist in these circumstances, imo.
I’ll take multiverses as a dodge for the free will paradox, but I have a problem with how readily people dismiss determinism.

For one, time has no function outside of being a spacial dimension. To locate a thing, you need to know the longitude, latitude and altitude of where to look, but you also need to know -when- and we overlook this constantly.

While the third dimension provides depth, the fourth provides the capacity for movement, for animation. This makes it exponentially more complex, and breaks our ability to make sense of it. That’s where our limit is. But, it doesn’t make sense to think “the universe does not have any more blank canvas remaining in front of us. For the next instant to occur, we have to observe an act of big-C creation”

Second thing about time is the function of prediction. Generally speaking, the more information we have about a thing, the more accurately we can predict what it will do next. Can you or anyone else describe a limiting principle to this observation?
 
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