Do terrorism works?

[FBI-chan]

Airports all across the world have been changed forever because of 9/11. Before 9/11, getting a plane was not much different from getting a train.

 

[Retrodogkiller]

This is some faggot myth.

The Patriot act and the numerous similar laws in Europe have been used effectively at stopping terrorists and most importantly persecuting them(the communist terrorists weren't jailed in thr 70s due to the fact that collecting their information was technically illegal)

This is a great example of how twisting the law work
https://youtube.com/watch?v=WLSNPkf8RCU

Do you have any concrete evidence of a reduction in terrorist acts?

 

[NEVER LURK]

Do you have any concrete evidence of a reduction in terrorist acts?

Portland Seven terrorists group bust is a great example.

Prior to the Patriot act foreign intelligence investigators couldn't share wiretap data or grand jury information with domestic criminal investigators.

And without this sharing catching the Portland seven would've been impossible.

This is one example of many.

The idea of "the Patriot act doesn't work" was one of the many retarded myths leftist media tried to push( one of the hilarious ones was "torture doesn't work)

 

[rofllmaoxdwow]

I have been terrorized by your ESL nigger speak, double posting and retarded opinions on terrorism.
Disobey your username @NEVER LURK. In fact, you should NEVER SPEAK again.
Lurking do works. Lurking do wonder to prevent retardation.

 

[NEVER LURK]

I have been terrorized by your ESL nigger speak, double posting and retarded opinions on terrorism.
Disobey your username @NEVER LURK. In fact, you should NEVER SPEAK again.
Lurking do works. Lurking do wonder to prevent retardation.

Can i suck on your titties Johnny?

 

[Harvey Danger]

The question is simple:
Is Terrorizing a populace and intimidating their government a sound strategic move.

If your only other option is "do nothing and die", then sure, ignoring morality. Groups with better options tend to do that instead, which should tell you something.

1- intimidating Europeans into making laws that prohibit mocking islam anf its symbols

I wouldn't call that a result of Islamic terrorism, but of imported Islamic migration. In fact, as far as 9/11 being involved, I would say the swing to placate Islam was due more to European contrarianist anti-Americanism. The dumb cowboy Americans were hating Islam, so the cool rational Euros decided it must be good.

(after 9/11 American birthrates dropped blew replacement and haven't recovered since).

What? That was a long term trend that cratered in the 1960s, and went further negative after the Great Recession in 2008. Look at the chart, it was stable in the 2000s, 9/11 didn't even put a dent in it.



Any point about American "security" has more to do with economic and cultural insecurity than actually fearing for their lives. Nobody stopped having babies because some zealots crashed some planes.

3-destroying the trust between civilians and the government.

Fair point, but that trust was broken during Vietnam. The disconnect grew between civilians and politicians, who went too far with things like the Patriot Act and TSA, but I don't think the small group of 9/11 truthers created a significant wedge between the populace and the government. Edward Snowden did that more than 9/11. Obama+Trump becoming bogeymen for their respective opposition did more to destabilize the relationship, the Islamic terrorists both of them bombed were just background noise used to criticize them.

 

[NEVER LURK]

What? That was a long term trend that cratered in the 1960s, and went further negative after the Great Recession in 2008. Look at the chart, it was stable in the 2000s, 9/11 didn't even put a dent in it.

You're right

If your only other option is "do nothing and die", then sure, ignoring morality. Groups with better options tend to do that instead, which should tell you something.

It wasn't the only other option in Ireland for example.
Its is like a tool to apply pressure not the main strategy

I wouldn't call that a result of Islamic terrorism, but of imported Islamic migration. In fact, as far as 9/11 being involved, I would say the swing to placate Islam was due more to European contrarianist anti-Americanism. The dumb cowboy Americans were hating Islam, so the cool rational Euros decided it must be good.

The case which i cited (were Christian iraqi was convicted for burning the Quran in Sweden) is inspired directly by terrorist attacks and murderers against Quran burners.

These laws only exist due to terroristic pressure from Muslims (and boycotts by Islamic countries like Kuwait)
This for example

 

[One Winged Pear Farmer]

It hasn’t worked for the US so far, can’t win a war despite indiscriminately targeting civilians

 

[NEVER LURK]

It hasn’t worked for the US so far, can’t win a war despite indiscriminately targeting civilians

Get outta here you nigger loving pig
This is a white mans thread

 

[los pepes]

Depends on your goals and how important they are vs the core interests of your target.

In some shithole like Haiti or Somalia all it might take is a single act for foreign forces/governments to say "fuck this" and leave, because its not worth it. There is nothing of value there. On the other hand independence terrorist movements in Chechnya/Dagestan didn't work despite inflicting significant damage because their goal was the dismemberment of the State, which obviously goes against its core interests.

All it took was a truck bomb to get the US out of Lebanon. And yet 100 Oklahoma city's would not be enough to make the US say uncle and allow say Idaho or Florida to break away.

Also depends on the shifting political environment. The Ku Klux Klan employed terrorism successfully for nearly a century. But politics evolved and shifted and eventually those same acts of terror started working against their goals rather than enabling them.

 

[CallmeCicada]

 

[Welfare Bum]

America and Ireland wouldn't exist without terrorism. It's how those countries became independent.

 

[Dead Lion]

Depends on many factors. Domestic probably wont, the state will throw any resource it can to catch the terrorist. If you're a stereotypical muslim terrorist operating out of the sandbox then you need to consider how hard the target can and will retaliate. Europe can't and wont retaliate, they lack the ability to project whatever power they have. Was attacked multiple times in the 2010's and did absolutely nothing. The U.S will chase you around but they will pull their punches. Israel/Russia meanwhile will brutally retaliate against you and any unfortunate soul that stands in their way.

 

[One Winged Pear Farmer]

Get outta here you nigger loving pig
This is a white mans thread

I’d say post hands but don’t want ya getting shit on your phone ya jeet

 

[NEVER LURK]

I’d say post hands but don’t want ya getting shit on your phone ya jeet

May all the shit be on vishnu and Allah.

You might not be a sandnigger but a sandnigger lover

 

[One Winged Pear Farmer]

May all the shit be on vishnu and Allah.

You might not be a sandnigger but a sandnigger lover

No im not a Christian so I don’t worship any brown gods

 

[Overwritten Tapes]

It works for the government to fuck over the average citizen like me and you.