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The writer and her editor. Whomever is in charge of these published Disney fanfiction is likely too brainrot by her own fanfic circles to care about preventing character assassination.
yeah this seems like there should have been some basic "uhh, yeah this is cute, but could you do a story about our characters instead please?"
 
Why doesn't Disney make more films based on their own IP characters like Mickey, Donald, etc.? Oswald the Rabbit would be nice, especially since Walt made art of him and Mickey as I recall. THAT should've been their centennial movie.
I think there was talk of them wanting to do a Mickey Mouse film, they just had a hard time getting a script approved, and also they were "concerned" about how the ears would look (apparently). It's bizarre that they haven't tried to do more with him.
 
The current line is that Mickey never had a personality and no one ever really liked him, hence why they needed to make the 2013 shorts where half the jokes were just the animation being gross and most of the remaining ones were just wallowing in misery.

I think they've also pointed to Prince and the Pauper not singlehandedly lifting the Rescuers Down Under out of box office bomb territory as supposed evidence no one cares, but I don't remember where I saw that.

Prince and the Pauper is like twenty minutes and still a better movie than modern Disney and Pixar ones, by the way.

Edit: Prince and the Pauper should've been the Mickey movie. The studio was starting a legendary hot streak and putting Mickey into established stories follows the precedent set with Sorcerer's Apprentice. There was plenty they could've done to get the run time up (add a part for Minnie, to start).

That was the window after Walt where they cared and had the skill necessary to do it. Now it would be written by a hack and probably 3D.
 
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The current line is that Mickey never had a personality and no one ever really liked him, hence why they needed to make the 2013 shorts where half the jokes were just the animation being gross and most of the remaining ones were just wallowing in misery.
If your flagship character has been in almost a century of animation and comics, but your current writers are too self-absorbed to know any of those and claim he has no personality, maybe you should hire someone else for the job ... Disney had no problem looking to the comics when they made both versions of Duck Tales, and they even found ways to sort of work around the difference between the unintelligibly quacking Donald known from decades of cartoons and the normal talking Donald from the comics. I didn't like them shipping Donald off to the army and replacing him with Launchpad, but acknowledge they did find something that worked for them at the time. There are plenty of American and European comics starring Mickey as an adventurer, private detective solving mysteries, or in everday escapades, sometimes with Minnie, but usuall with Goofy by his side, that would yield material for a rather decent TV show.
 
Disney had no problem looking to the comics when they made both versions of Duck Tales,
What kind of comic did they look at to do the godawful Ducktales 2017? Marvel MCU movies?

There are plenty of American and European comics starring Mickey as an adventurer, private detective solving mysteries, or in everday escapades, sometimes with Minnie, but usuall with Goofy by his side, that would yield material for a rather decent TV show.
Mickey has literal decades of content that could be adapted, and Donald too! From Wizards of Mickey (aka standard high-fantasy adventure focusing on wizards), to Mystery Magazine (Mickey's take on noir, including being threatened and hurt in a daily basis), to X-Mickey (Mickey finds the supernatural! Inspired by the urban fantasy of the 00s), etc. Duck Avenger would be amazing to adapt too, but no dice.
The Mickey Shorts of the 2010s (at least the first ones) were good at giving him back a personality, but writers today ignore them for some reason. Mickey is a hostage in his own company, probably because his creator was a white man that commies today hate.
 
What kind of comic did they look at to do the godawful Ducktales 2017? Marvel MCU movies?


Mickey has literal decades of content that could be adapted, and Donald too! From Wizards of Mickey (aka standard high-fantasy adventure focusing on wizards), to Mystery Magazine (Mickey's take on noir, including being threatened and hurt in a daily basis), to X-Mickey (Mickey finds the supernatural! Inspired by the urban fantasy of the 00s), etc. Duck Avenger would be amazing to adapt too, but no dice.
The Mickey Shorts of the 2010s (at least the first ones) were good at giving him back a personality, but writers today ignore them for some reason. Mickey is a hostage in his own company, probably because his creator was a white man that commies today hate.
America isn't ready for Mickey using his GrendKaizer Robo Z against dragon monsters

I've only seen a bit of the 17 Ducktales, the Christmas episode and some odds and ends of clips, yeah, MCU is about what I'd say, even in a not-so-back-handed compliment. Like I found the Christmas episode charming enough but yeah the dialog is moderately self-aware. I felt it was reasonable enough that the younger versions of the characters being non-plussed at time travel because "We're the Duck family. A time-traveling relative from the future is like, not even in the top five weirdest things to happen at Christmas"
 
America isn't ready for Mickey using his GrendKaizer Robo Z against dragon monsters

I've only seen a bit of the 17 Ducktales, the Christmas episode and some odds and ends of clips, yeah, MCU is about what I'd say, even in a not-so-back-handed compliment. Like I found the Christmas episode charming enough but yeah the dialog is moderately self-aware. I felt it was reasonable enough that the younger versions of the characters being non-plussed at time travel because "We're the Duck family. A time-traveling relative from the future is like, not even in the top five weirdest things to happen at Christmas"
Donald is the misbehaving angry kid, Goofy is the everyman and Mickey is the well behaving kid. Donald and Goofy are allowed to have character while Mickey is just meant to be perfect.
 
Donald is the misbehaving angry kid, Goofy is the everyman and Mickey is the well behaving kid. Donald and Goofy are allowed to have character while Mickey is just meant to be perfect.
yeah tbh I get how it is for them, too, Mickey has had character in the past, but as he's become sort of a vague corporate ambassador it's tougher for people to write him abusing farm animals until they make song noises or training a robot to punch a monkey
 
America isn't ready for Mickey using his GrendKaizer Robo Z against dragon monsters
Not sure if it's referencing something specific, but it wouldn't be the first time. There's Darkenblot, a comic where Phantom Blot takes a mecha and rampages through a city inspired by Metropolis, a story good enough to get several sequels.

I've only seen a bit of the 17 Ducktales, the Christmas episode and some odds and ends of clips, yeah, MCU is about what I'd say, even in a not-so-back-handed compliment. Like I found the Christmas episode charming enough but yeah the dialog is moderately self-aware. I felt it was reasonable enough that the younger versions of the characters being non-plussed at time travel because "We're the Duck family. A time-traveling relative from the future is like, not even in the top five weirdest things to happen at Christmas"
It's beyond terrible and disgusting, and the self-aware dialogue was cringe. It had all of the clichés found in Marvel movies today: All dudes are retards (with a few exceptions like Scroogue, who's too good now), all of the women are literally perfect, quips replace dialogue, a big plot that's built up during the entire season because stand-alone stories are a thing of the past, way too much shit going on for every episode, etc. The duck girl who was good at everything was annoying because it seems the trio of duck boys got hit with the retard stick every time she shows up, lest she's surpassed by a guy at something. Or how even the random cleaning lady is now over-muscled for some reason.
I only lasted a few episodes.
Meanwhile, the Legend of the Three Caballeros, aired at the same time, was more of a classic show depicting Donald growing into a role of a hero, never got a second season despite being more deserving of it.


Donald is the misbehaving angry kid, Goofy is the everyman and Mickey is the well behaving kid. Donald and Goofy are allowed to have character while Mickey is just meant to be perfect.
Mickey Mouse's negative traits were watered down and absorbed by Donald and Goofy, respectively, and these two morons let Mickey be the leader and order people around. He used to have a personality even back in the 2000s with the private club show, but today writers can't or won't touch Mickey or his friends. Not even Goofy.
There's allegedly a live-action Oswald the Lucky Rabbit show series in the making, but I'm not expecting much.
Meanwhile, Mickey in the comics has a generic but well-meaning good guy personality, doubling as a private investigator and dressing like a regular guy instead of just pants, but he's not been used in animation.

They have a whole awful new cartoon with constant gross out humor for Mickey now.
Which one? The Clubhouse cartoon meant for toddlers?
 
Mickey Mouse's negative traits were watered down and absorbed by Donald and Goofy, respectively, and these two morons let Mickey be the leader and order people around. He used to have a personality even back in the 2000s with the private club show, but today writers can't or won't touch Mickey or his friends. Not even Goofy.
I meant inception-wise. Mickey is nice, Donald is angry and Goofy was normal. Mickey never had much personality. That is why there were movies like the Goofy movie and shows like Ducktales and Goof Troop. You can have Donald be nice and angry. You can have Goofy be human. But Mickey is the face. You can only show him be a boring good kid so many times. He was never allowed to have human flaws like the other two were.
 
Apparently this one's already ended like 3 years ago though
It did, and it was written by writers who tried to have classic Mickey humor, and it succeeded (although the last seasons were weaksauce due to exploiting the concept for too long). The gross bits are played for laughs; it's not blatant fetishism inserted by the writers, as every indie cartoon does.

You can only show him be a boring good kid so many times. He was never allowed to have human flaws like the other two were.
That's why the comics have him as a vehicle for adventures to happen, as you could replace Mickey with anyone without the plot changing much. But again, in animation they can't do that. Probably for the better; imagine say the director behind Turning Red playing around with Mickey, Minnie would suddenly become a trans-freak.
 
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