Disney Developing 'The Lion King' Remake

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How is it the animated version felt more alive than the “live action” one?
because someone decided "realistic" cgi was better than "cartoony stylized" cgi
it's kind of like a lot of the super early animation
people were learning to make characters move, but they werent learning how to make them alive

this kind of CG can move but it's not living
it's why some older cg is still pretty good and feels better
it had a style that felt like it was living
 
because someone decided "realistic" cgi was better than "cartoony stylized" cgi
it's kind of like a lot of the super early animation
people were learning to make characters move, but they werent learning how to make them alive

this kind of CG can move but it's not living
it's why some older cg is still pretty good and feels better
it had a style that felt like it was living
I believe this 100%. There is nothing wrong with cartoony/stylized takes of reality as long as it's done effectively. Animals look too boring when they're going the realistic route since there's not much control over how they can emote or act given the limitations of their designs.
 
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Something something color is ableist this is current year and every character must look like a corpse.
 
Everyone around me seems to have bought into the manipulation and are clapping like seals over this. I hate being the only one who feels how manipulative and cheap this all is. The film looks visually impressive, I'll give it that. But it also is pulling a Psycho remake where it's the same shit shot for shot, beat for beat. I wouldn't mind if they got REALLY fucked up with us and made the story more violent and adult since lions are brutish animals and all. Maybe use some of the original story concepts from the original film.

But no. Just a quick and easy cashcow from the Mouse with no effort.
 
I saw a still of Mufasa and Simba and thought the CGI looked fantastic, no way in hell I'll see the film but wow. THAT IS, until I actually watched the trailer. In motion the CGI isn't so spectacular. The use of the beautiful score got me in the heart for a split second but all that does is make me want to watch the original film.
 
I still have a bit of hope for this one because I actually really enjoyed the remake of The Jungle Book that came out a few years ago. For me, that did something that a lot of remakes don't do, which is surprise me. I liked the ways they expanded the story and the resulting movie was a melange of Disney and Kipling that offers a different experience from the original cartoon, while still delighting me. Compare that to Beauty and the Beast, which is such a rote duplication of the superior animated film that it might as well come with a checklist. And since it hews so close to the original, you are basically watching a scene by scene remake that continually reminds you of how much better this story has been told before. Unfortunately, this recent trailer is leading me to believe that's what we'll be getting with The Lion King
 
this kind of CG can move but it's not living
it's why some older cg is still pretty good and feels better
it had a style that felt like it was living

This is so true that it's sad. But they gave a shit back then because it was new technology that they wanted to take advantage of even if it wasn't perfect. Take Draco from Dragonheart. He has some awkward lighting in all of his scenes, but he's expressive enough that you believe he's right there interacting with Dennis Quaid, and that's partly because they took cues from Sean Connery's facial expressions from his recording sessions and animated Draco that way, and partly because of body language.

The problem with Lion King here is they tried so hard to be realistic that they forgot about body language, not just facial expressions. The scene with Simba, Timon and Pumbaa walking across the log as he grows up is famous not just because of the music but because of their expressive body language. Rafiki is a lovable character not just because of his words of wisdom but because he's eccentrically energetic and has the most fantastic, and downright human facial expressions in the film. You can tell the hyenas apart because of their facial features and expressions before they opened their mouths. None of that's present here. I love animals, but this is so uncanny that it's scary and I don't see how children would be captivated by this.

Oh, I watched the trailer for the first time, but with the sound off by the way. It's like they just filmed a Planet Earth documentary for their Disney Nature filmography--but then you remember those are CGI animals and it's even more awkward and uncomfortable (the wildebeast stampede is super egregious, it's embarrassing especially when you remember the original wildebeast stampede used CG, too). And forget the starved Scar, that's what Zazu is supposed to look like? Holy fuck are you shitting me?

I'm super curious about what the animators' opinions on this film are because I don't see how they can just sit by and allow their legacy to be shit on like this if the Mouse wasn't holding a gun to their heads.
 
I dont know...
First they came for the Jungle book, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a fan.
Then they came for the beauty and the beast, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a fan.
Then they came for the Lion King, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a fan.
Then they came for Robin hood—and there was no one left to speak for me.
 
This is so true that it's sad. But they gave a shit back then because it was new technology that they wanted to take advantage of even if it wasn't perfect. Take Draco from Dragonheart. He has some awkward lighting in all of his scenes, but he's expressive enough that you believe he's right there interacting with Dennis Quaid, and that's partly because they took cues from Sean Connery's facial expressions from his recording sessions and animated Draco that way, and partly because of body language.
I need to see that film again, I saw it once on the big screen when it came out and enjoyed it.

The problem with Lion King here is they tried so hard to be realistic that they forgot about body language, not just facial expressions. The scene with Simba, Timon and Pumbaa walking across the log as he grows up is famous not just because of the music but because of their expressive body language. Rafiki is a lovable character not just because of his words of wisdom but because he's eccentrically energetic and has the most fantastic, and downright human facial expressions in the film. You can tell the hyenas apart because of their facial features and expressions before they opened their mouths. None of that's present here. I love animals, but this is so uncanny that it's scary and I don't see how children would be captivated by this.
Even the meerkats in those "Compare the Market" ads would kick Timon's ass clear into next Tuesday!

Oh, I watched the trailer for the first time, but with the sound off by the way.
I'm glad you did this, the test of a good film is to know how it visually works.

I'm super curious about what the animators' opinions on this film are because I don't see how they can just sit by and allow their legacy to be shit on like this if the Mouse wasn't holding a gun to their heads.
I know some of them don't work for Disney anymore (of course I'm thinking of the original TLK animators).
 
I dont know...
First they came for the Jungle book, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a fan.
Then they came for the beauty and the beast, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a fan.
Then they came for the Lion King, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a fan.
Then they came for Robin hood—and there was no one left to speak for me.
Umm...
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What's the point of watching this when they didn't even hire Nathan Lane to voice Timon?
 
My reaction to this trailer in one tweet.

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With the note, of course, that they are both animated! The remake is just animated with a dull color palette.

I doubt it's going to be a remake of the furry version. Don't worry.

I am now imaging a mixture of this technology and Zootopia style design to create the ultimate realistic unreal version of the '73 Robin Hood, and I'm about to fall out of my chair. The world would explode, especially when the Mandatory Woke Crowd introduce a subplot where Robin is juggling his bisexual man-love for Little John with his social pressure to bed Maid Marian and of course Prince John is a barely veiled Trump analog. He's gonna make Sherwood Forest great again!
 
Anyone remember that series on Animal Planet documenting the lives of a meerkat colony? It was filmed like a normal nature documentary except that the narrative was played up to be over dramatized so that every mundane thing that went on was Game of Thrones type powerstruggles?

That’s what we’re looking at here. Except the animals are conjured up on computers.
 
You know, you can go back to the 2005 Narnia movie and see how expressive they managed to make Aslan despite being, you know, a lion. You can tell what he's thinking when he's onscreen- his face, while subdued, shows plenty of emotions and none of them fell into the uncanny valley. He felt really alive, even though he was just a bunch of code. Not to mention this was achieved using 2005 CGI!

It blows my mind that we're in a time when CGI has never been better and the people behind this are a multi-billion dollar corporation, but they can't seem to get animators who could be assed to at least fucking widen baby Simba's eyes as Scar tells him to run.
 
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