DISCUSS ROBERT E HOWARD

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Who the fuck is he? you ask

he's a kind of guy who's both brain and brawn.Howard was born and raised in Texas. He spent most of his life in the town of Cross Plains, with some time spent in nearby Brownwood. A bookish and intellectual child, he was also a fan of boxing, eventually taking up amateur boxing; he also spent some time in his late teens bodybuilding. From the age of nine, he longed to become a writer of adventure fiction but did not have real success until he was 23. and those story he writes are such as....




and many others!so merrily post and discuss about him in here
 
He's probably the second-most important fantasy writer of all time, second only to Tolkein.

Also, arguably, the greatest men's fiction writer of all time.

Great adventure writer. Started the swords and sorcery genre. Underrated horror writer. He's a very able writer.
 
Agreed. I don't think it's an overestimation to say he is one of the most important writers of the 20th century and his suicide at 30 was an incalculable loss to world literature.

If you want to get into Conan, I always recommend reading in publishing order rather than chronological. Choosing a good compendium isn't quite as hard as getting into Elric, but The Coming of Conan the Cimmerian (2002, Del Rey Books) is in my view the definitive in-road into Howard's masterwork. It also has some nice Marc Schultz illustrations in the AD&D vein.

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He's probably the second-most important fantasy writer of all time, second only to Tolkein.

Also, arguably, the greatest men's fiction writer of all time.

Great adventure writer. Started the swords and sorcery genre. Underrated horror writer. He's a very able writer.
he's a lightning in a bottle, not a degenerate, all perfect.....

Guess the universe only loves the evil and degenerate or maybe it loves drama
 
Agreed. I don't think it's an overestimation to say he is one of the most important writers of the 20th century and his suicide at 30 was an incalculable loss to world literature.

If you want to get into Conan, I always recommend reading in publishing order rather than chronological. Choosing a good compendium isn't quite as hard as getting into Elric, but The Coming of Conan the Cimmerian (2002, Del Rey Books) is in my view the definitive in-road into Howard's masterwork. It also has some nice Marc Schultz illustrations in the AD&D vein.

Cover for reference:
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Getting the entire Del Rey set of REH works is pretty good. It's 3 volumes of Conan, 1 for Kull, 1 for Bran Mak Morn, 1 for Solomon Kane, 1 for Historical Adventures (Red Sonja and Dark Agnes too), 1 for El Borak, and then one for the Horror Stories. There's also the two volumes of REH's "best of", but that overlaps with everything else.

Another thing I recommend is just grabbing the ebooks. Plenty of REH's work in in the public domain.

There's also the Robert E. Howard Foundation Press which collects everything in themed volumes or by character. It's all easy to access.

REH's character have plenty of continued pastiche fiction, which can be hit or miss. But when the writers successfully capture the spirit, they do it well.

Anyways, the three big writers of the Weird Tales pulp mag have had a nutty influence on pop culture and media. Lovecraft is the most influential horror writer of the 20th century, REH was a major fantasy influence, and even Clark Ashton Smith has tons of influence. He's just a bit more under the radar, but he's essential to the atmosphere of DnD and dark fantasy and dying earth. When I think of dungeons, gothic fantasies, dark worlds, and all that, I think of Smith.

Anyways for more Sword and Sorcery stuff, all the early attempts at following up REH also came out of Weird Tales. Henry Kuttner's Elak, C. L. Moore's Jirel, Fritz Leiber's Lankmar (don't recall if those were in Weird Tales, but Leiber got his start in that pulp and was a Lovecraft circle member). I also recall Manly Wade Wellman, the writer who created Silver John/John The Balladeer, to have also done quite a few sword and sorcery tales. Hell, plenty of the old SF-F writers of the midcentury era did S&S at one point. Jack Williamson, Avram Davidson, L. Sprague de Camp, Poul Anderson, and John Jakes are just a few of the bigger names.

Hell, you could say that Sword and Sorcery was basically the next evolution in swashbuckling adventure tales after Edgar Rice Burroughs' popularized Sword and Planet/Planetary Romances with the John Carter books. That genre has a ton of good stuff in it. Burroughs is the gold standard, but you also had Otis Adelbert Kline and Leigh Brackett. Some folks consider Leigh Brackett and her sword & planet stories to be the successor to Robert E. Howard's spirit after he died. Brackett is very very solid. Highly under-appreciated.

he's a lightning in a bottle, not a degenerate, all perfect.....

Guess the universe only loves the evil and degenerate or maybe it loves drama
There turned out to be plenty of fantasy writers who could get a lot of S&S right, but noone could do the action quite like REH.

You had horror writers, theater actors, and all sorts of pulpsters trying to write S&S. Some came close to REH. But the best ones were always able to distinct themselves by not retreading REH (Karl Edward Wagner, Fritz Leiber, C. L. Moore, Michael Moorcock, etc.).
 
Do you know a good one for him too?
Yes but it takes some treasure-hunting.

I recommend the Gollancz/Fantasy Masterworks copy from 2001. Sometimes you can find them on German eBay (bizarrely). The cover should be Elric holding up Stormbringer between both hands as a crowd looks on in awe (not the shitty plain white with a deer skull on it - it's the same text but it just looks so fugly).

This only has the main six stories (like Dreaming City and Stormbringer) but it's the best primer I've found. If you get through it and find you like it, I'd just google pdfs of the other stories lol

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Howard was a great writer, not just for characters/setting but in the actual prose. You can point to him as a bridge between old school heroic language and the modern pulp sensibilities, which developed around the same era. (It's probably more fair to credit the Weird Tales crew @Old King Koaleamos listed above, but IMO REH still stands out.)

I remember there being a romance movie based on his on again off again relationship. It did have this scene of a great date idea - drunkenly telling your date about your OCs.
He's a dozen archetypes removed, but nowadays you might call him a proto-chud.

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The John Carter-series gotta be one of the fantasy/sci-fi genres greatest works
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EDIT: FUCK THAT WAS EDGAR RICE BORROUGHS IM RETARDED
That's Edgar Rice Burroughs, bud.

EDIT: I feel El Borak doesn't get as much love as REH's other characters. Theres just something inherently cool about a Texas gunslinger in Arab lands. Also I really need to read his boxing stories.
 
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Howard's writing makes me yearn for a day when people are uncucked and fantasy can be exuberant again. I've even made three or four of my own pulp fantasy characters, I'm just searching for the right story to tell with them.
 
Howard's writing makes me yearn for a day when people are uncucked and fantasy can be exuberant again. I've even made three or four of my own pulp fantasy characters, I'm just searching for the right story to tell with them.
I've got a host of them and I can't put them in normie ttrpg games as NPCs because I've met too many stealth-SJW types who whine about these kinds of characters.
 
I've got a host of them and I can't put them in normie ttrpg games as NPCs because I've met too many stealth-SJW types who whine about these kinds of characters.
If you find a game of Barbarians of Lemuria, you can almost certainly be assured it's being run by chuddies. I had my own until a player made a deal with dark forces and got the party wiped.
 
Howard's writing makes me yearn for a day when people are uncucked and fantasy can be exuberant again. I've even made three or four of my own pulp fantasy characters, I'm just searching for the right story to tell with them.
might be creepy,lecherous even but i think a protagonist should be a megalomaniac tyrant redeemed by his love interest who is an ideal hero (like optimus prime)
 
EDIT: I feel El Borak doesn't get as much love as REH's other characters. Theres just something inherently cool about a Texas gunslinger in Arab lands. Also I really need to read his boxing stories.
Conan and Solomon Kane (rightfully) get all the praise, but a Texas gunslinger mixing it up with Afghan hill tribes, Russian and British spies, Ottoman soldiers, Tibetan cults, and Persian secret societies in turn of the century central Asia is such a cool and underutilized setting.
 
Conan and Solomon Kane (rightfully) get all the praise, but a Texas gunslinger mixing it up with Afghan hill tribes, Russian and British spies, Ottoman soldiers, Tibetan cults, and Persian secret societies in turn of the century central Asia is such a cool and underutilized setting.
Sounds similar to the novel "The Man Who Would Be King" - but just switch the British protagonists with an American cowboy, who could be used as an allegory for America itself.
 
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