Dexter Franchise - Tonight's the night

[innocent jogger]

That new episode was really fucken good, I loved the stuff with Batista at the end too

I just watched it and I agree 100%.

[Sorry for the double post, I guess I am just so used to expecting to never see good TV again that I didn't expect it. ]

 

[Sithis]

That new episode was really fucken good, I loved the stuff with Batista at the end too

Spoiler: Plot spoilers

It feels like they're setting Angel up to get killed by Prater's crew, assuming they don't decide to fuck everything up and have him arrest or kill Dexter at the end of the first season, I can see Angel following that tracking device and ending up in Charley's path. And that shit with Detective Diversity Genius, I feel like Dexter should have recognized it wasn't a coincidence the same cop that investigated his son was there and should have been a bit more careful. She was clearly clocking his reactions to things during the slideshow presentation and their conversation. I don't think they'll have Dexter himself kill Angel since they have to preserve his status as the antihero/hero, but could easily see a situation where Angel accidentally oversteps and that could also lead to Prater realizing that Dexter is BHB and trying to "collect" him harder or kill him off.

I just hope they don't pull another New Blood thing because I do really like this season.

 

[Bâtard Consanguine]

Spoiler: Plot spoilers

It feels like they're setting Angel up to get killed by Prater's crew, assuming they don't decide to fuck everything up and have him arrest or kill Dexter at the end of the first season, I can see Angel following that tracking device and ending up in Charley's path. And that shit with Detective Diversity Genius, I feel like Dexter should have recognized it wasn't a coincidence the same cop that investigated his son was there and should have been a bit more careful. She was clearly clocking his reactions to things during the slideshow presentation and their conversation. I don't think they'll have Dexter himself kill Angel since they have to preserve his status as the antihero/hero, but could easily see a situation where Angel accidentally oversteps and that could also lead to Prater realizing that Dexter is BHB and trying to "collect" him harder or kill him off.

I think the tracker will lead Batista to where Dex has been getting rid of the bodies after he kills the ponytail guy. Whether he walks in on Dex in the act, Dex leaves some scrap of evidence behind, or Batista uses deductive reasoning to confirm his suspicions is what's in the air. As for Charley, I think she'll be the one who'll realize Dex is the BHB. She clearly hates her job and is only doing it because Prater is paying her enough to take care of her sick mother. If the season concludes with her mother dying and thus losing all motivation to give a fuck, she'll help Dex escape after she realizes he's been the one taking out the sickos she's had to babysit.

 

[MrGodSlave]

I don't understand how everyone is jizzing over this season. Reddit treating it like modern day Citizen Kane. Wait omg Gemini was holding his drink in a different hand!?! When every episode contains a dozen inconsistencies, it isn't a win to claim the writers have the slightest clue what they're doing because they showed gemini holding a drink with different hands, as that would be yet another inconsistency.

For instance, why is the midge and Uma Thurman discussing their issues 5 seconds before the banquet begins? This happens in so many shows, someone plans an event weeks if not months before, two characters approaching the event with one saying "Why didn't you tell me about X and Y?" Stupid ass writing. This autistic spic cop is intolerable. "Sure, I've got all these cases going on, I belittle working street cops who inform me about a crime scene because they didn't contaminate it and tell me who the killer is, I've got a hard-on for Harrison but I need to give this lecture to some 17 year olds.. wow thankfully Dexter showed up for me to reveal my hand instantly that I know Batista is looking for him."

This is every modern show, but I love how reddit cooms speculating that Dexter and Gemini will have some elaborate cat and mouse arc, always trying to one-up the other. No, sorry, Dexter is going to stab him in the throat with a broken glass shard in front of another serial killer, a billionaire creep midge who is obsessed with serial killers, and his paid trained assassin, but none of them are going to second guess Dexter's justification for what happened. Gemini was planning to murder everyone, you see.

Such tepid shlock.

Lastly, I hate how hard the show runners are masking Tyrion's midge stature. Look at this:



Sitting right on the edge of the seat, camera cutting off the obviously still dangling little feet. PLAY INTO IT! Acknowledge you're a fucking midge. No, your performance about some guy with cutaways that obviously didn't feature a young MIDGE. Admit you're a fucking midge and make this show good. No. Being 3feet tall has no bearing on anything.

Wait til they reveal he's a cannibal or some other unbelievable horseshit. "Aww no you have to accept all the Dexter tripe or else you're a hypocrite". Fuck off.

 

[MrGodSlave]

[unintelligible sperging]

 

[innocent jogger]

Calm down, @MrGodSlave

 

[Internet War Criminal]

Holy shit i was fucking goofing on that fuller faggot when i wrote that wall of text but you’re actually genuinely serious @MrGodSlave

Please kys it’s a dumb fun show stop focusing on the muh realism bullshit. And the only reason a midget should ever make you so angry is because he headbutted you in the balls

 

[With the actors on it?]

HOW DARE THEY film a midget like a normal person instead of just pointing out he’s a midget????

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

HOW DARE THEY film a midget like a normal person instead of just pointing out he’s a midget????

you crop each shot so it's just the top of his head

 

[Samuel Fuller]

Holy shit i was fucking goofing on that fuller faggot when i wrote that wall of text but you’re actually genuinely serious @MrGodSlave

Please kys it’s a dumb fun show stop focusing on the muh realism bullshit. And the only reason a midget should ever make you so angry is because he headbutted you in the balls

I doubt your retard act is just an act, you are way too convincing, and a massive faggot to boot.

 

[Internet War Criminal]

I doubt your retard act is just an act, you are way too convincing, and a massive faggot to boot.

The only way you can realistically assess whether I’m a faggot or not is obviously because you’re had your share of faggots yourself. Otherwise, couldn’t comment on that, clearly.

 

[Korpon]

Call it a hunch, but someone in here is the Gay Harbor Butcher

 

[Samuel Fuller]

The only way you can realistically assess whether I’m a faggot or not is obviously because you’re had your share of faggots yourself. Otherwise, couldn’t comment on that, clearly.

I am not the one being a fucking retard for pages on end with an idiotic gimmick because I disagreed with one post.

 

[Paradox Mystic]

The promo for the next episode is out

 

[frozen_runner]

• Lol @ the tracker being bright white so the audience can see it. Why is Dexter so trusting? Why wouldn't he search his car after Angel got out? I guess for the same reason he didn't ditch the other, stolen car immediately when he got to NYC, keeps going by his real name, and isn't frightened of being caught on every fucking camera in the city while he's committing murdersHe better find it and put it in Blessing's car...
• Same complaint as earlier: everyone in the wrong side of the law who is walking around with a cellphone in this season is insane. Thankfully, the writers didn't care to make the cops smart enough to track phones. (Though we can assume the Prater phones work differently and are more secure.)
• Another vote for, "Dexter won't kill Angel, but Prater('s goon) will." I just don't see Angel giving up and going back home, unfortunately. Unless Dexter saves him and he has a change of heart because of that. (Unlikely.) Dumbass should have told Masuka and Quinn what he was doing, even if he was determined to do it himself.
• Or maybe Harrison will be forced to kill Angel. Make up for shooting dear old dad last season. (You're all crazy about New Blood, BTW. It was a solid Dexter season with a good ending.)
• Now I'm wondering if Prater will be revealed to have mercy killed his parents in the car after the wreck, and he found he liked it. Or the cannibal thing I guessed earlier. Some reveal is going to happen about him at some point. His story doesn't make sense.
• I hate Ponytail Guy want want him to die really badly. RIP to Lady Vengeance's foine ass.

 

[>IMPLYING]

Lol @ the tracker being bright white so the audience can see it.

In the promo for the next episode he raises his knife to plunge it into someone, but what's unusual is he's wearing pantyhose to obscure his face, which he doesn't usually do when doing a kill. A part of me wonders, even if it's contrived as fuck, that Dexter will see the tracker, lead Bautista to where he wants, and somehow orchestrate a misdirect that'll have Angel absolve Dexter and send him down a different rabbit hole. Or, even less likely, apologise to Dexter, they go for a drink like old times, and La passion can go back to Miami still in once piece... I am leaning towards Harrison probably being the one to kill Bautisa, which would be recompense moreso for him getting Harrison off the hook for the other murder but doing this would just arouse more suspicion in Dexter. Also I think it would technically make Harrison qualify for the Code which'd probably irreversibly ruin their relationship.

One interesting theory I saw was that Prater gathered all these serial killers together, gets their trophies, becomes intimate with them personally... and then just has them killed, either for noble intentions (killing killer) or just to tie up loose ends once he's gotten all he can from them. A lot of this is based on the fact he had Lady Vengeance killed in prison, and then the guy who killed his parents also died in prison, "not even making it to 50," as Prater said.

If Bautisa does end up dead or missing, they'd still be able to find out where he went, probably discover who he talked to, and then learn the details of his stay in New York from the detectives. "Bautista said Dexter was the BHB and turned up mysteriously dead not long after arriving in New York to investigate him? We should probably look into that or something. I'm also not actually surprised by revelation," says Quinn. "Giggity," says Quagmire Masuka.

>new blood
Kind've the reverse thing with the phone issue you raised, but the GF deducing Dexter was the Bay Harbor Butcher based on:
1. Using an alias (suspicious but not illegal, the explanation he gives Bautisa in the first episode of Resurrection would've sufficed)
2. Two dead drug dealers had needle marks in their arms... ?!?!?
3. "Dexter bought ketamine for his goat... The Bay Harbor Butcher also used ketamine... they must be the same person!"
Keep in mind, she didn't drug test the dealer's blood for ketamine, so she has nothing definitive that on Dexter using ketamine on the dealers. Ignoring the 3rd point, which could frankly be a coincidence, the most she could try to pin on him is are the murdered drug dealers. She had Dexter locked in a room asking him to confess to being an infamous serial killer, which if he had remained silent and just maintained an air of confusion about, she wouldn't be able to pin jack shit on him.

Otherwise I don't think the series wasn't giga-awful, it just fumbled the absolute fuck out of those last episodes and Bishop pining Dexter as the BHB was the most contrived shit ever. The actual confrontation with Clancy Brown's character and that entire aspect of the series was fine; also Clancy Brown is enjoyable to watch to he helps keep you watching, similar to John Lithgow in season 4. Harrison was a weight around New Blood's neck though, but it's something which has thankfully been improved on in Resurrection a ton and I'm curious to see where he ends up; I also like that him and Dexter are just chill with each other now.

 

[frozen_runner]

One interesting theory I saw was that Prater gathered all these serial killers together, gets their trophies, becomes intimate with them personally... and then just has them killed, either for noble intentions (killing killer) or just to tie up loose ends once he's gotten all he can from them. A lot of this is based on the fact he had Lady Vengeance killed in prison, and then the guy who killed his parents also died in prison, "not even making it to 50," as Prater said.

This actually makes a lot of sense. Prater being finally revealed to be similar to Dexter is an interesting idea that feels right to me.

It would put Dexter in a real bind: he couldn't kill Prater according to his code (because he's only killing serial killers), but Prater might not feel the same way towards him. This might be setting up Angel to be redirected towards Prater, a high-profile killer who would be a very big "get" for the end of his career. Especially if Angel can see a contrast between Dexter and Prater where Dexter comes out looking better. And if Dexter reveals that Deb was the one who killed Laguerta and thus is beyond justice, Angel might just be convinced to forget about Dexter.

In fact, Prater could easily be framed as the Bay Harbor Butcher: he's collecting and sometimes killing serial killers, he's incredibly rich (dumping the bodies off of a boat, getting away with it for so long), he's about the right age (Dinklage is 2 years older than Michael C Hall), and he's got the fucking slides that Dexter had. It wouldn't be hard to say those are his slides and that's why he has them along with all his other meta-trophies. And complaints about his MO changing could easily be explained by a non-psycho contract killer doing the killing for him.

Would Angel believe this? I don't know. But he might be convinced to let it go somehow, especially if he thinks he finally has someone else to blame for Laguerta's death. Otherwise, the writers have set it up so he could be killed (by Harrison or by Prater) and all the heat on Dexter disappears with him.

I think that's the's answer. It just makes too much sense.

 

[Problematic User Forever]

Instead of Batista getting murdered, I think it'd be better if he either managed to actually "get" Dexter, only for Prater to get Dexter a lawyer who shows the evidence to be so flimsy and point out how Batista being involved taints the whole thing and gets Dexter off so that he can never be tried again as the BHB due to double jeopardy.

Or, the FBI simply swoops in and says "Fuck you, we investigated this, we found Doakes to be the man, stop fucking around." and kills the case.

 

[frozen_runner]

Instead of Batista getting murdered, I think it'd be better if he either managed to actually "get" Dexter, only for Prater to get Dexter a lawyer who shows the evidence to be so flimsy and point out how Batista being involved taints the whole thing and gets Dexter off so that he can never be tried again as the BHB due to double jeopardy.

Or, the FBI simply swoops in and says "Fuck you, we investigated this, we found Doakes to be the man, stop fucking around." and kills the case.

My only objections are:

- there's no way in hell this series ends with Prater alive and continuing to do his "collecting serial killers" thing. It just isn't going to happen unless there's going to be another season.

- I don't see Angel letting go of this until he has an answer or he's dead. He won't be dissuaded.

- I also don't see Prater's enforcer doing this much longer. She doesn't like doing it, and her reason for doing it is, sadly, drawing towards the end of her life. What she does when her mom dies is unpredictable.

 

[Samuel Fuller]

Instead of Batista getting murdered, I think it'd be better if he either managed to actually "get" Dexter, only for Prater to get Dexter a lawyer who shows the evidence to be so flimsy and point out how Batista being involved taints the whole thing and gets Dexter off so that he can never be tried again as the BHB due to double jeopardy.

Or, the FBI simply swoops in and says "Fuck you, we investigated this, we found Doakes to be the man, stop fucking around." and kills the case.

Both of those are sadly far above the writers of the show to pull off, if they could even think of them.