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Denzel Washington Will Lead the Charge as Hannibal​

The two-time Oscar winner is taking on the role of the famous general in a new film from Antoine Fuqua.

Denzel Washington has played corrupt cops, ex-ballplayers, drunk pilots, and Thane of Cawdor; now he’s taking on one of the greatest military leaders in recorded history. The two-timeAcademy Award winner just signed on to play Hannibal, the Carthaginian general who famously led an army of warriors and elephants across the Alps to fight the Roman Republic during the Second Punic War.

The currently untitled film will be directed by Washington’s regular collaborator Antoine Fuqua (Training Day, The Equalizer films) and written by three-time Oscar nominee John Logan (Gladiator, The Aviator, Hugo). In a first-look deal with Netflix, Washington and Fuqua will also produce, as part of Fuqua’s production company, Hill District Media.

No release date is on the horizon yet, but Hannibal will be marching onto Netflix in the near future. Keep your eyes peeled for more battlefield updates.

 

[Almighty Space Duck]

i thought this was about hannibal lecter and was gonna ask if he washed his meat in detergent before cooking it with cornstarch

A ate his liver wid some favaless beans an a nice grape soda.

 

[Agamemnon Busmalis]

"Rapidly" as in 100 years by Julius Caesar and inhabited by a fully Roman populace with barely a trace of the old religion or customs. Nice try come again! Carthago deleted wuz!

Yeah, and then people moved back in from the surrounding areas as well. Leptis Magna has plenty of bilingual Punic inscriptions on Roman constructions preserved from centuries after the wars.

Utica was a Carthaginian allied city-state nearby that was never sacked because it sided with Rome during the Punic Wars. However, Utica had no tophet like Carthage proper. Whether that means they didn't practice those customs or just performed them in Carthage is unknown.

The Punic/Phonecian religion was still practiced and the Romans associated their gods with Greco-Roman ones, like Juno = Tanit and Melqart = Hercules. Or Baal Hammon and Saturn, or Astarte and Europa, and so on. Or Milcom and Osiris. Milcom and Baal are the likely origins of the "Moloch" legend from the Bible. Their worship didn't die out until Hellenic and Egyptian polytheism was replaced by Christianity in the 5th-6th centuries AD.

 

[Getting Tard Comed Jr]

Yeah, and then people moved back in from the surrounding areas as well. Leptis Magna has plenty of bilingual Punic inscriptions on Roman constructions preserved from centuries after the wars.

If you agree this didn't happen until after 100 years.. then Carthage was destroyed.

The Punic/Phonecian religion was still practiced and the Romans associated their gods with Greco-Roman ones, like Juno = Tanit and Melqart = Hercules. Or Baal Hammon and Saturn, or Astarte and Europa, and so on. Or Milcom and Osiris. Milcom and Baal are the likely origins of the "Moloch" legend from the Bible. Their worship didn't die out until Hellenic and Egyptian polytheism was replaced by Christianity in the 5th-6th centuries ADAD.

And that's where you're wrong kiddo. Baal and Moloch worship is still alive and well today.

 

[Agamemnon Busmalis]

If you agree this didn't happen until after 100 years.. then Carthage was destroyed.

It was destroyed and thoroughly, there's no argument there. Enough Romans were alive in the 60-odd years since the end of the Punic War for it to be a living memory of how brutal the struggle against Carthage was. They wanted them destroyed permanently so they would never be a threat to Rome again.

However the Punic culture, religion and language itself survived the destruction of Carthage for centuries afterwards.

And that's where you're wrong kiddo. Baal and Moloch worship is still alive and well today.

Absolutely...not necessarily under that name, at least openly, but evil like that never dies.

 

[Exterminatus]

Decent fight is a massive understatement. He beat every field army Rome threw at him. It's just Romans didn't know the meaning of the word "stop".

If the Carthage state gave Hannibal everything he asked for history could look very different.

Rome very much struggled against him at first, arrogance played a big factor along with poor commanders. It wasn't until Fabius Maximus took the field that they finally had a good counter to Hannibal. Fabius would tactically retreat from Hannibal whenever Hannibal tried to directly fight him because Fabius knew that he'd lose but by making Hannibal chase him it exhausted the Carthaginian soldiers and also made them waste supplies (it should also be noted that Hannibal lost a lot of men, supplies, and elephants from crossing the Alps too). It rendered Hannibal incapable of actually sieging Rome proper and eventually forced Hannibal to withdraw from the peninsula and return to Carthage. Fabius is often overlooked because of Scipio Africanus but while Scipio was a great commander, Fabius bought the Romans very valuable time.

 

[Haramburger]

If forced to choose, I'd rather see this historical content through the lens of anime than niggerfication.

 

[crowabunga]

So it's going to be about a Black man failing at logistics?* For shame.

*To my memory of Roman history; there are likely nuances I am forgetting, but I recall one superficially plausible explanation for Hannibal's failure to take Rome despite astounding victories was an inability to sustain his army within enemy territory.

 

[PyrrhicRustle]

So it's going to be about a Black man failing at logistics?* For shame.

*To my memory of Roman history; there are likely nuances I am forgetting, but I recall one superficially plausible explanation for Hannibal's failure to take Rome despite astounding victories was an inability to sustain his army within enemy territory.

That wasn’t really his fault, the invasion was mostly bankrolled by the Barca family from their holdings in Spain, the central Carthaginian state did very little to help, even when asked repeatedly for decades.

 

[Balr0g]

That wasn’t really his fault, the invasion was mostly bankrolled by the Barca family from their holdings in Spain, the central Carthaginian state did very little to help, even when asked repeatedly for decades.

That and Scipio played it clever by taking the Barcas main income by occupying Spain with it's valuable silver mines

Also for all to remember: in the end Hannibal gets beaten by white men.

 

[verissimus]

I was almost interested until I read it was a Netflix production

Yeah...that will do it for me. If you had to have a black actor as Hannibal, I wouldn't mind if it was Denzel but pretty much anything with the Netflix stamp of approval gets a hard pass.

 

[Brahma]

He was pretty excellent as Macbeth. I think he has the chops to pull it off

 

[Phalanges Mycologist]

I'm looking forward to black Hitler.

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Christ, why not cast Alexander Siddig who played hannibal before. Will cost less and is a superior actor.

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He is such an underrated Actor, it's s shame he is mostly remberd for playing a Trek roll - I recall back when Battlestar was rumoured to be getting redone (the RDM version no the new one in the works) and they wrote Baltar supposedly for Him but he turned it down so they chose Callis as he was the most look alike and was able to portray the roll very close to how they wanted Siddig to (an could).

I mean in history he put up a decent fight for a while but Rome is fucking ROME at the very pinnacle of its power and so they rolled over Carthage like a fat chick in line at Dunkin Donuts and pulled the city down brick by brick, deported all it surviving citizens back to Rome as slaves and then SALTED THE FUCKING EARTH so nothing would ever grow again. Then they went home and the world stood in awe at the raw power Rome wielded.

Rome was the ONLY super power of it's era or at least for a very long period, they knew this and fought to keep it that way, I know it's an Alt-historical POV but Rome was likely only a Century or two away from a technical revolution akin to the early modern period (so 15 - 17c) all the precursors where there but Roman society and culture took a path that ended it's self and any progress it may / should have made at a crucial juncture and became a artifact of history.

 

[quackrock]

I'm down. Writers very good, director is good and Denzel is amazing. Hopefully it'll be good.

Goodest little goy right here.

 

[Big Brown Schlub]

The race grifters do realize right that they're going to have to end the story with Hannibal getting demolished by the blue eyed and blond haired Scipio Africanus

Scipio AfriKANGus you mean? Skee-pee-yow'z gunna be a KANG he ain't gonna be no yboi, Kart-Age and Rome finna be like da Bloodz vs da Crips ya dig?

 

[Kulee Baba]

I absolutely love the Joel Coen adaptation of MacBeth (with Denzel playing MacBeth), in my book it’s the best adaptation of Shakespeare to film. I’m biased though because I absolutely adore the Coen Bros and MacBeth with all its violence is pretty much my favorite Shakespeare work.

A point that they make in the making of for the movie is that it’s not reality, much like Actors on a stage. So to pretend that there’s anything wrong with a black man playing a Scottish noble is just silly in the context of Shakespeare. No one speaks IRL with Iambic Pentameter!

With all that said I’ve really become turned off by film that pretends it’s historically accurate. I prefer drama nowadays that recognizes it’s not real life so that AppleTV movie made me more willing to accept black/white-washing. Just as long as it’s at the front door admitting it’s art first and not a representation of history. No one complains that Amadeus is nothing like the actual history of Mozart after all.

With all that said fuck Jada Plinkett Smith and her stupid Cleopatra show. That does guise itself as being based in history and claiming that Cleo was black.

 

[Elderly Homosexual Negro]

Imagine having no history or accomplishments so you have to steal others. Realistically who do they have? The genocidal maniac with a speech impediment Shaka Zulu? The gold throwing kang Mansa Musa?

 

[Absurdity]

Yeah, and then people moved back in from the surrounding areas as well. Leptis Magna has plenty of bilingual Punic inscriptions on Roman constructions preserved from centuries after the wars.

Utica was a Carthaginian allied city-state nearby that was never sacked because it sided with Rome during the Punic Wars. However, Utica had no tophet like Carthage proper. Whether that means they didn't practice those customs or just performed them in Carthage is unknown.

The Punic/Phonecian religion was still practiced and the Romans associated their gods with Greco-Roman ones, like Juno = Tanit and Melqart = Hercules. Or Baal Hammon and Saturn, or Astarte and Europa, and so on. Or Milcom and Osiris. Milcom and Baal are the likely origins of the "Moloch" legend from the Bible. Their worship didn't die out until Hellenic and Egyptian polytheism was replaced by Christianity in the 5th-6th centuries AD.

"Yeah and then." The Roman way was to absorb the conquered gods into their own pantheon where they would play a decidedly minor role. By the time they were done, it' would not be the same religion. There were exceptions for cultures they respected like Greece, Israel (temporarily) and Egypt (partially) but Rome was particularly harsh with the Carthaginians so they would not have tolerated the practices which most offended them. Rome in it's conquering phase used religion as a major regulator of society and when they sent the entire city's population to be slaves in other territories, it was over. So complete was their destruction, we don't even know how their rituals were carried out or have a completed list of all their deities. So case in point to your initial objection.

But when you reject all the biggest and most trusted historical resources outright with muh propaganda, it's possible that they were all black too!

 

[Overly Serious]

I do like Vin though, he seems like a stand up guy from all I've ever heard. A little touch of the swollen head due to all his success but I can forgive that because I just love the Riddick movies. Yes even the weird space one with Karl Urban...who I also enjoy. Dread was ball lickingly good.

I heard a story about Vin Diesel that I love. Vin Diesal is a big Dungeons and Dragons fan and got the other cast members on Chronicles of Riddick playing it with him after hours.

I don't know why but the mental image of Dame Judi Dench rolling a d20 and exclaiming: "I have slain the orc" delights me.

Also, fuck all this rewriting history to change people's skin colour. Nothing against Denzel but I would have hoped the guy had the decency to say "No, that's not accurate" when approached. Can you imagine Ian McKellen accepting an offer to play, I don't know Malcom X?