Disaster Deep-rooted racism, discrimination permeate US military - ...according to AP

Deep-rooted racism, discrimination permeate US military​

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For Stephanie Davis, who grew up with little, the military was a path to the American dream, a realm where everyone would receive equal treatment.

She joined the Air Force in 1988 and steadily advanced over the course of decades, becoming a flight surgeon, commander of flight medicine at Fairchild Air Force Base and, eventually, a lieutenant colonel.

But many of her service colleagues, Davis says, viewed her only as a Black woman. Or for the white resident colleagues who gave her the call sign of ABW – it was a joke, they insisted – an “angry black woman,” a classic racist trope.

White subordinates often refused to salute her and she was attacked with racial slurs, she said.

“For Blacks and minorities, when we initially experience racism or discrimination in the military, we feel blindsided,” Davis said. “We’re taught to believe that it’s the one place where everybody has a level playing field and that we can make it to the top with work that’s based on merit.”

In interviews with The Associated Press, current and former enlistees and officers in nearly every branch of the armed services described a deep-rooted culture of racism and discrimination that stubbornly festers, despite repeated efforts to eradicate it.

The AP found that the military’s judicial system has no explicit category for hate crimes, making it difficult to quantify crimes motivated by prejudice.

The Defense Department also has no way to track the number of troops ousted for extremist views, despite its repeated pledges to root them out. More than 20 people linked to the Jan. 6 siege of the U.S. Capitol were found to have military ties.

The AP also found that the Uniform Code of Military Justice does not adequately address discriminatory incidents and that rank-and-file people of color commonly face courts-martial panels made up of all-white service members, which some experts argue can lead to harsher outcomes.

And racial discrimination doesn’t exist just within the military rank-and-file. Every year, civilians working in the financial, technical and support sectors of the Army, Air Force and Navy file hundreds of complaints alleging race and skin color discrimination, according to an AP analysis of U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission data.

In February, Lloyd J. Austin III – a former Army general who now is secretary of defense, the first Black man to serve in the post – ordered commanders and supervisors to take an operational pause for one day to discuss extremism in the ranks with their service members.

The Southern Poverty Law Center sent Austin a letter shortly after his order, applauding him for his decisive action but underscoring that systemic change on all military levels is urgent.

“Those who are indoctrinated into white supremacist ideology present a significant threat to national security and the safety of our communities,” SPLC President Margaret Huang wrote.

The AP reached out to the Defense Department multiple times to learn what proactive measures it was taking to stamp out racism, discrimination and extremism, but did not receive a response by the publication deadline, even though the first outreach was May 5.

In the midst of last year’s summer of unrest sparked by police killings of Black Americans across the nation, Army Gen. Mark A. Milley, who is also the Department of Defense’s Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told congressional leaders the military cannot afford racism or discrimination.

“We who wear the cloth of our nation understand that cohesion is a force multiplier,” Milley said. “Divisiveness leads to defeat.”

Austin pledged to rid the ranks of “racists and extremists” during his confirmation hearing before Congress, which came on the heels of the Capitol insurrection.

“The job of the Department of Defense is to keep America safe from our enemies,” he said. “But we can’t do that if some of those enemies lie within our own ranks.”

At the end of 2020, the Defense Department released a report aimed at identifying ways to improve racial and ethnic diversity in the U.S. military. Among the findings: The enlisted ranks of the active and reserve military were “slightly more racially and ethnically diverse than its U.S. civilian counterparts.” But not the officer corps.

The breakdown of all active commissioned officers: 73% white; 8% each Black and Hispanic; 6% Asian; 4% multiracial; and less than 1% Native Hawaiian, Pacific Islander, American Indian or Alaska Native. And the diversity gap widened the higher individuals moved up in the ranks.

Several Black officers interviewed by the AP said the culture must give way if they are ever to flourish.

Thomas Hobbs, an infantry colonel who retired after 27 years of service in the Marine Corps in 2018, was among those who spoke of the pressures of trying to blend into an overwhelmingly “white male culture.”

Hobbs said the Marines have done better than other branches of the service in recruiting Black candidates into the officer corps, but noted that “many of them don’t stay in the military past their 10th year.”

“Why don’t they stay in? Because they’re exhausted from having to act a certain way all the time and they can never be themselves,” Hobbs said.

Other service members of color detailed incidents in which they said they were discouraged by superiors from openly embracing their cultures. Some said they were told to avoid speaking languages other than English to not offend their mostly white colleagues.

And some Black women detailed the challenges they faced navigating a culture that often labels them as “aggressive or difficult” and their natural hair as unkempt or unprofessional.

Now, a round of sweeping changes to the National Defense Authorization Act – which primarily funds and lays out policies governing the Defense Department and military services – could present a unique opportunity to turn the tide.

A bill passed earlier this year ordered the Secretary of Defense to devise a plan to remove all names, symbols and monuments that honor the Confederacy, including renaming military bases such as Fort Benning and Fort Hood, which honor Confederate leaders.

“Several years ago, they uncovered a cell of white supremacists down at Fort Bragg,” U.S. House Majority Whip Jim Clyburn recalled in an interview with the AP. “Were they there because of the attitudes they brought with them or were they celebrating the fact that Fort Bragg is named after a segregationist?

The bill also lays out tracking mechanisms and reporting requirements for supremacist, extremist and criminal gang activity, and creates an inspector general to oversee diversity and inclusion efforts.

When Stephanie Davis was medically retired by the Air Force in 2019 after more than two decades of service, she felt ground down by overt racism and

noted how insidious it can be to members of the ranks – service members entrust their lives to their fellow troops, and a lack of cohesion in a unit can be deadly.

“It creates a harmful and dangerous work environment,” she said. “And a lot of us suffer in silence because we feel like there’s nothing that can be done.”

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EDITOR’S NOTE: As a Marine lance corporal, James LaPorta once served under the command of Col. Thomas Hobbs, but did not work for him directly.
 
Don't know how it is for all the branches, but don't doctors get commissioned and undergo a far less strenuous version of OCS and then PT tests going forward? Is it possible what she sees as racism is more linked to being viewed as less of a real member of the forces as a result of that?

I often find people experience push back over various things and just assume its racism and/or sexism when there are other factors present and sometimes the disrespect stems from that.

EDIT: Most of the claims being made seem fake on the surface from me, just from what I do know of the military but I'm wondering if there weren't some things she perceived and blew up.
 
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She joined the Air Force in 1988 and steadily advanced over the course of decades, becoming a flight surgeon, commander of flight medicine at Fairchild Air Force Base and, eventually, a lieutenant colonel.

But many of her service colleagues, Davis says, viewed her only as a Black woman. Or for the white resident colleagues who gave her the call sign of ABW – it was a joke, they insisted – an “angry black woman,” a classic racist trope.

White subordinates often refused to salute her and she was attacked with racial slurs, she said.
She was one of the most priveledged and coddled members of the US military with some of the most important postings around.

And she's full of shit.

Not saluting an officer, ANY officer, is grounds for punishment.

As someone who was in before her and during the time she was in, a single racial slur was enough to earn you time in charlie's chicken farm.

She's full of shit. Full stop.
 
lolol wtf is this, I know it's the Air Force and they're more relaxed. But I can't imagine enlisted or junior officers not saluting an officer, I've had to do that plenty of times even though I've hated their guts. NCOs enforce that no doubt, respect the rank not the person. Now people talking behind your back or giving the bare minimum of respect cus you're an asshole/bitch or incompetent.. lololol good luck trying to stop that.
I was in Air Force JROTC way back when in high school and when we were on Air Force bases with enough stripes or officer insignia - JROTC officer insignia look nothing like regular insignia - we got saluted all the time if we were in uniform. It's instinctive, they don't even look at the person, they look at the rank. If they didn't recognize it, or it looked higher than theirs, they saluted. Sometimes they'd laugh it off after if they realized they just saluted a 15 year old kid, but they'd hold the salute until you saluted back.

Really makes me doubt her claims.
 
Not saluting an officer, ANY officer, is grounds for punishment.

As someone who was in before her and during the time she was in, a single racial slur was enough to earn you time in charlie's chicken farm.
The one thing I don't doubt, is that she was the type to absolutely demolish any lower enlisted who made the mistake of not checking six & letting her come out of the sun. Fucking medics & doctors were the worst in garrison with that shit.

I knew a good troop who caught perpetual extra duty by jokingly referring to our first sergeant as a beaner around the wrong company. He deserved to catch hell for it, but not the extent that it got pushed to. By the time I got out, people were terrified of being hit with petty false EO claims; maybe that's where these idiots are getting their picture of pervasive racism.
 
The one thing I don't doubt, is that she was the type to absolutely demolish any lower enlisted who made the mistake of not checking six & letting her come out of the sun. Fucking medics & doctors were the worst in garrison with that shit.

I knew a good troop who caught perpetual extra duty by jokingly referring to our first sergeant as a beaner around the wrong company. He deserved to catch hell for it, but not the extent that it got pushed to. By the time I got out, people were terrified of being hit with petty false EO claims; maybe that's where these idiots are getting their picture of pervasive racism.
False EO claims were fucking terrible as soon as the Shaneeqas realized they could use it to torpedo other people's advancement and push themselves to the front of line, or just cause problems for people they didn't like.

I still remember when an E2 called me a cracker honkey motherfucker and a bunch of other shit in front of my squad and I filed an EO complaint against her (among other things since I couldn't punish her because her squad leader was a dick sucking faggot) only to find out from the black EO NCO that white people can't file EO complaints.

And since EO is usually staffed the by the shammingest, racistest, bigotest, dumbass motherfucking worthless black NCO's and Officers, there's no fucking way that if this FLIGHT SURGEON didn't get saluted, didn't get her muff polished every fucking minute, and people didn't get out of her way when she walked down the hallways, she wouldn't have ruined people's careers with EO complaints and NJP's.

The article kind of shows the entitlement.

They want all the benefits, but want to be able to "be themselves" and be "blackity blackity black" in an organization that demands conformity in order to win wars.
 
a deep-rooted culture of racism and discrimination that stubbornly festers, despite repeated efforts to eradicate
It's hardly ever genuine racism. More often than not it's: I don't like how these people treat me so they're racist, I didn't get that promotion so my bosses are racist. People that cry racism never take a step back and consider there might be more to it than race.
 
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You join a military to serve your country, it practically has written on the form, that you give up your opinions and your values to serve your country and when you finally join you get treated like a number and not a person . Imagine my shock that you get treated differently. That isn't discrimination. That's army training at work. Suck it up!
 
Niggers make for notoriously bad troops. They tend to despise authority and will act indignant if you expect them to do anything but will abuse their own authority with reckless abandon when they gain rank and no one is allowed to tell them otherwise.
 
Niggers make for notoriously bad troops. They tend to despise authority and will act indignant if you expect them to do anything but will abuse their own authority with reckless abandon when they gain rank and no one is allowed to tell them otherwise.
Not so; the negro can be exceptional troops, as long as they have the leadership & training. I'd argue that it's not that they despise authority, it's that they're not shown any authority or leadership worthy of respect. This leads to a culture of people who act like petulant children with limp-dick/no-dick (or absent) parents. Stick anyone like that in a unit with the same mealymouthed command culture, and you're going to end up with shit troops.

And to keep the racism going; negros tend to be far more motivated to do PT and actual soldiering, especially those from hard or urban beginnings. Ask any NCO to point out their ten laziest, worst troops, and at least six of them will be white (and/or female).
That should tell you something, considering that whites are a minority in many Army units, especially line companies.

Edit: How many niggers did you serve with?
 
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Who was that black general who said "The Marine Corps doesn't have a discrimination problem; they treat everyone like they're black"?
To quote everyone's favorite Gunnery Sgt., "There is no racial bigotry here. I do not look down on niggers, kikes, wops, or greasers. Here, you are all equally worthless."
 
I also have a problem with this woman's story.

Don't believe people didn't salute her. Also doubt she was medically retired in 2019. She had 31 years in 2019 if she joined in 1988, didn't make full colonel (Medical Corps... tells me a lot right there) and likely got told it was time to retire..

My last executive officer was a black female captain. She got shit done and am sure that anyone who dared not to salute her would have found themselves chewed up and spit right out. But that never happened.

The other extreme, as I've mentioned here before, was a black female first lieutenant I worked with at one particular assignment. Somehow she wangled a six-month temporary duty stint in Washington, when we needed everyone to help develop a new training course, while teaching the old one. When she returned all the heavy lifting was done. But being an "affirmative action" officer, she sailed through the ranks, eventually retiring as a full colonel. With her antipathy toward work, am sure she's done nothing in retirement but sit at home and watch TV all day, while likely weighing 300 pounds. She always had a weight problem on active duty.

Also agree with Jet Fuel Johnny that those in the EO/Social Actions office were those who couldn't hack it in real jobs. To protect against the "racism" charge, these people, officers, NCOs, and enlisted people, were put in Social Actions. Mercifully, they didn't bother those of us with real jobs. They'd put on some program once or twice a year. We'd go, watch it, clap, and forget all about it.

Worked with some great black officers, and some not so great. But I worked with some great white officers, and some not so great. If you could get the job done I didn't give a fuck what color you were.
 
White subordinates often refused to salute her

Then talk to their COs. Act like a leader. The military is a place where there is genuine class distinctions. As a commanding officer you have authorities and powers that other people do not, and you can use them.

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Don't believe people didn't salute her

I don't either. This is something only a basic bitch civilian who has absolutely no exposure to the military would believe. The military is half black, you will not get away with being an open racist and an open racist would have very little reason to want to join it. More importantly, if you are a private first class and a lieutenant colonel steps onto your bridge you are at attention until someone tells you at ease. The only thing that matters is the badges on your sleeve.
 
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