Declawing Cats - Illegal in most developed countries, but not the USA.

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As for letting them out, I'm in Florida so there's plenty of things that can and will kill a cat lurking around every corner, so no. Any time they've gotten out they walk around a little, quickly realize there's no air conditioning, and walk right back in.
You sure it's not because it's Florida in general?
 
My family believed in declawing cats. My siblings and I didn't, when we became adults, because it's transparently barbaric. For my parents, though, it took adopting a beautiful kitten, having her declawed by an idiot vet who bandaged one of the paws too tightly, and watching as she went through a week of horrifying shit to try to keep her leg and then ended up losing the leg anyway. The cat was never right after that. Who could blame her? Now, my doofus parents, who still insist on "sofa-safe" cats, at least adopt old-ass cats whose idiot owners also declawed them and then abandoned them.
 
Don't get a cat if you can't deal with a cat having claws.

I find it distasteful when people dress up their dogs and push them around in a stroller like they're toddlers. I love animals, I think dogs and cats are happiest when being dogs and cats. Declawing has the relatively serious ethical implication of crippling an animal for your personal preference, an animal you're not even intending on immediately killing and eating. They're pets/companions, not a fashion accessory.

I'd love to get a cat right now, but I'd feel bad about not being able to let it outside and it having not enough space in the current place I'm living at.
 
I knew this woman that dumped her cats and moved to Texas. One of the cats was declawed. So the other cat had to protect him. Why would you abandon a declawed cat? Then again after all the other stuff they did I am not surprised.

We took these cats in. The declawed one died though. But not from anything related to his declawing. He was living outside for awhile and I don't think it agreed with him like the other one.

I think declawing should be against the law. If you don't want to deal with cats scratching things up then don't get a cat.
 
Don't get a cat if you can't deal with a cat having claws.

I find it distasteful when people dress up their dogs and push them around in a stroller like they're toddlers. I love animals, I think dogs and cats are happiest when being dogs and cats. Declawing has the relatively serious ethical implication of crippling an animal for your personal preference, an animal you're not even intending on immediately killing and eating. They're pets/companions, not a fashion accessory.

I'd love to get a cat right now, but I'd feel bad about not being able to let it outside and it having not enough space in the current place I'm living at.
It depends on how many stuff you have for the cat to let out excess energy. I have a cat tree/scratching post for my cat and she doesn't claw our leather furniture at all. So long as you allow ample time to play with the cat and give them the necessary tools for them to knead/claw, or even put on claw caps and clip their nails, you should be fine.
 
I knew this woman that dumped her cats and moved to Texas. One of the cats was declawed. So the other cat had to protect him. Why would you abandon a declawed cat? Then again after all the other stuff they did I am not surprised.

That's evil af but it doesn't surprise me anymore when you see some of the awful things people do with their animals. Just like a certain group of people who love to buy Pit bulls just for show and then just leave them outside year round on 3 feet of chain.
 
THIS.

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Honestly, I think people getting their cats declawed dont do it with sadistic glee, they've probably put as much thought into the decision as spaying or neutering the animal.
 
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Honestly, I think people getting their cats declawed dont do it with sadistic glee, they've probably put as much thought into the decision as spaying a neutering an animal.

I used to feel that way, too, until I saw how it caused physical and emotional pain and disability to cats.

Maybe I'm soft, but I'm cool with that. Having a soft heart in a cruel world is courage, not weakness.
 
I used to feel that way, too, until I saw how it caused physical and emotional pain and disability to cats.

Maybe I'm soft, but I'm cool with that. Having a soft heart in a cruel world is courage, not weakness.
My dog growing up was the best, my dad refused to chop his balls off bc he thought that was fucked up, I don't know where you stand on this but there seems to be a lot of cognitive dissonance in someone who would advocate this being cruelty but sterilizing an animal who's basic instinct is to reproduce isnt.
 
My dog growing up was the best, my dad refused to chop his balls off bc he thought that was fucked up, I don't know where you stand on this but there seems to be a lot of cognitive dissonance in someone who would advocate this being cruelty but sterilizing an animal who's basic instinct is to reproduce isnt.

I see that a bit differently, and here's why:

Prior to sexual maturity, animals don't have any desire to reproduce. Spaying/neutering at that stage of life prevents unwanted offspring/overpopulation, and neutered animals live statistically longer, healthier lives.

They don't have the cognitive ability to feel as if they are missing out on anything, so I don't see it as cruelty if done prior to sexual maturity.
 
@TwinkleSnort, yes, sterilizing an animal I obviously to keep it from reproducing. I'm not so sure about it being healthier for an animal based on the fact it isn't healthier for other animals, namely humans. When men are accidentally castrated and women have hysterectomies, they're given HRT to supplement the loss. Sex drive excluded, the lack of estrogen in women and testosterone in men causes other medical maladies, I have a hard time believing removing healthy organs from any other animals aside from humans only nets positive results with no negative.

My dog that didn't have his balls chopped off never actually jumped anyone. It sounds like the primary motivation for doing as much is to prevent that kind of embarasing scenario (considering it's no longer the 70s and people don't allow their dogs to roam the neighborhood freely to get knocked up) which is on part with being annoyed by scratched furniture. I'd say it's less worse because at least getting your legged humped doesn't lead to any property damage.
 
@TwinkleSnort, yes, sterilizing an animal I obviously to keep it from reproducing. I'm not so sure about it being healthier for an animal based on the fact it isn't healthier for other animals, namely humans. When men are accidentally castrated and women have hysterectomies, they're given HRT to supplement the loss. Sex drive excluded, the lack of estrogen in women and testosterone in men causes other medical maladies, I have a hard time believing removing healthy organs from any other animals aside from humans only nets positive results with no negative.

My dog that didn't have his balls chopped off never actually jumped anyone. It sounds like the primary motivation for doing as much is to prevent that kind of embarasing scenario (considering it's no longer the 70s and people don't allow their dogs to roam the neighborhood freely to get knocked up) which is on part with being annoyed by scratched furniture. I'd say it's less worse because at least getting your legged humped doesn't lead to any property damage.

I got my cats neutered and spayed because they are brother and sister and I didn't want them to have incest babies, since those are more likely to have health problems. I've read that being spayed increases the life expectancy of female cats, since they don't have to worry about the toll that pregnancy takes on their health. I'm honestly not sure if the same thing applies to male cats. However, both of my cats are 11 years old and not showing any signs of advanced age, while none of the unneutered cats belonging to anyone in my extended family have lived anywhere near that long. The mother of my cats died the year they were born. She was only 5 years old. She lived outside at my mom's house and was never fixed. The litter my cats came from was her last, and she got too sick to take care of them when they were about a month old, so I ended up doing it. If I'd left my cats at my mother's house, I'm sure they'd be dead by now. All that is anecdotal evidence. They may have just lived longer because they're well-taken care of, and they don't live outside. I don't know. I will say, though, that the male cat is one of the biggest cats most people who meet him or see a photo have ever seen. He's about three feet long from his nose to the end of his tail and weighs nearly twenty pounds. Very little of that is fat. I don't think being neutered has had any affect on his maturation or growth. Or his male catitude. Motherfucker thinks he owns everything he sees.
 
I got my cats neutered and spayed because they are brother and sister and I didn't want them to have incest babies, since those are more likely to have health problems. I've read that being spayed increases the life expectancy of female cats, since they don't have to worry about the toll that pregnancy takes on their health. I'm honestly not sure if the same thing applies to male cats. However, both of my cats are 11 years old and not showing any signs of advanced age, while none of the unneutered cats belonging to anyone in my extended family have lived anywhere near that long. The mother of my cats died the year they were born. She was only 5 years old. She lived outside at my mom's house and was never fixed. The litter my cats came from was her last, and she got too sick to take care of them when they were about a month old, so I ended up doing it. If I'd left my cats at my mother's house, I'm sure they'd be dead by now. All that is anecdotal evidence. They may have just lived longer because they're well-taken care of, and they don't live outside. I don't know. I will say, though, that the male cat is one of the biggest cats most people who meet him or see a photo have ever seen. He's about three feet long from his nose to the end of his tail and weighs nearly twenty pounds. Very little of that is fat. I don't think being neutered has had any affect on his maturation or growth. Or his male catitude. Motherfucker thinks he owns everything he sees.
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