Debate user The_Cowcel about incels.

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

Sorry to double post but I just read your reply to @Party Hat Wurmple , particularly this:

don't have interest in much of anything that involves going out, most of my non-gym outings are the family friend dragging me along to somewhere I have less than zero interest in going

Dude, fuck. Make yourself interested. I can tell you have a running commentary in your brain most of the time already, so make that voice into a cheerleader. Jesus.

just so we can sit around while he lectures me about how I need to be more outgoing and contribute more to conversations

And do you?

despite having already heard this same lecture a dozen times and having nothing left to add to the conversation because I've already been through this lesson a number of times with him.

You want help, and then you dismiss the help bc you've heard it all before (and yet you still don't participate in the conversation and apparently refuse to take an interest in other people). Everyone sees what's happening but you.

It's either that or just deciding to follow along with my parents when they're doing something in which case I just follow them around until it's time to go home.

That's dumb. Why?

I've been told to try going to bars and restaurants alone but I rarely see young women besides the employees and once I get my dating site swiping out of the way I'm basically just left sitting around wishing I was home.

Lol, you go out and spend your time on your phone then go home, resting on confirmation that going out is pointless.

What exactly do you think is going to happen socially when you're on your phone? Or when someone drags you out and you refuse to engage in - or God forbid imitate and drive - conversation.

"ChatGPT, I'm an anxious person with low hope of happiness. My cousin is making me go to a picnic. He's always telling me to have conversations with people, but I don't. I mostly ignore the life around me, and sure enough, nothing good ever comes of going out. How can I make the world be different?"

Even AI will call out the fallaciousness of this thought-pattern. But if you ask it, it could suggest ways to ease into being more participatory in life and even give you a play-by-play for various scenarios or how to find opportunities to engage. But pro tip: your prompt needs to tell it to challenge you.

 

[ScarletDevil]

"I don't need to be turned into a drugged up zombie, I am already self medicating with 200$ of booze per a week, it's a much easier method of becoming a zombie."

It's funny how it's always the people most in need of meds that insist they're poison

 

[Dagoth AMOGUS]

It's funny how it's always the people most in need of meds that insist they're poison
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You. Gym. Bible. Outdoors. Now.

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

Like a dozen people here have given you specific advice

Except the advice you cited above is terrible.

Sure point out to him he approaches relationships the wrong way but don't explain how. That helps.

"Just download Tinder bro." He is. He apparently has enough success he gets his foot in the door.

"Don't worry about having relationship right now", LOL. LMAO, when has that ever helped anybody? The guys who are obsessed with relationships will never listen to this advice because they already develop a fixation and complex with it. This will never help them. If anything, advice like this makes everything WORSE and, in my experience, does drive men to violent and psychosis behavior when they constantly hear this advice over and over. It's probably the worst you could ever give someone like this. Yeah, tell the guy who's life revolves X that X is bad for him. I'm sure he'll listen to you and anything you have to say afterwards. Fucking classic.

I'm not defending him, but you guys are bad at this and that's why this shit is six pages long of sperging.

 

[Mamimi]

Validation and the feeling of having reached a milestone that I should have reached long ago?

The question mark suggests you're being somewhat sardonic, as though it's obvious that you'd want that. But that's not why most men seek out relationships. Social proof with their peers is part of it, but the main thing is having a companion to face life with, a best friend they can also get naked with. Dating someone who's looking for that just because you want everyone to know you're a big boy who's been inside a vagina is sociopathic behavior. You have absolutely no standing to talk about societal degeneracy.

Depending on the circumstance I might be tempted to. If I'm not attracted to my girlfriend, think she'll stay with me even if she finds out and I like the new girl more it would be hard to pass up the opportunity and that's the position any woman I get would find herself in.

Even if you don't say any of these things to normies, you need to understand that your attitudes seep into the way you talk to people and it's a major factor in why they find you off-putting.

How is trying to avoid abandonment sabotage? What am I mean to do to prevent being abandoned?

You don't have to do anything because you're not in a position to be abandoned, and you probably never will be. I'm not trying to give you an epic put-down or anything, I just can't be that sympathetic to your love quest when you've admitted you would abuse any woman unfortunate enough to take an interest in you.

 

[Duke Nukem]

@The_Cowcel I'm pretty sure at this point you're a lost cause. You've been given quite a bit of advice, some pretty solid, some of it might have room for improvement. But it's pretty clear that you're set in your ways at this point.

Enjoy stewing in your own misery.

 

[Starefag]

Turns out letting the sex that suffers from getting horny over violent and psychopathic behavior control breeding isn't a good idea.

Are we doing phrenology bits now?
Anyway this isn't at all true, wanna know why? Ghengis Fucking Khan is why. Bro built an empire and had sultans paying tribute. Abolished forced marriage through kidnapping. The sexes were quite equal in mongolia, actually. To the point where the arabs had to censor their own recountings of Ghengis showing deference towards his primary wife on several occasions, because it mindraped the muslims that someone as powerful as the Khan would allow his wife say in ANYTHING.

"This doesn't address the sex attracted to violent behavior"
Getting to that.
One of his descendents, a wife of a general, locked in her family line as the heirs to mongolia. Who then went on to create the forbidden city in china's capitol, kicking off the dynastic golden age for China itself.

Also show me a study that actually proves attraction to violent behavior
50 shades of grey sales are not a valid source.

 

[crazedaze]

Except the advice you cited above is terrible.

Are you fucking retarded? (Yes) it was a humor post, the most constructive use of this server space to be made in this retarded thread full of idiots trying to give legitimate advice to someone at best trolling, at worst a complete fucking psycho who doesn't deserve air

 

[HG Wells]

all you guys who are wasting time outta your day to dogpile this dude for schadenfreude points are like 10x more autistic than he is

I legitimately feel bad for him

 

[Mamimi]

Are we doing phrenology bits now?
Anyway this isn't at all true, wanna know why? Ghengis Fucking Khan is why. Bro built an empire and had sultans paying tribute. Abolished forced marriage through kidnapping. The sexes were quite equal in mongolia, actually. To the point where the arabs had to censor their own recountings of Ghengis showing deference towards his primary wife on several occasions, because it mindraped the muslims that someone as powerful as the Khan would allow his wife say in ANYTHING.

"This doesn't address the sex attracted to violent behavior"
Getting to that.
One of his descendents, a wife of a general, locked in her family line as the heirs to mongolia. Who then went on to create the forbidden city in china's capitol, kicking off the dynastic golden age for China itself.

Also show me a study that actually proves attraction to violent behavior
50 shades of grey sales are not a valid source.

Men commit 99% of rape and cope with it by telling each other it's women who actually like it because femcels and bored housewives read smut sometimes

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

Dating someone who's looking for that just because you want everyone to know you're a big boy who's been inside a vagina is sociopathic behavior.

It's because he's approaching this as a beggar. Most guys kind of balance out from this as soon as they get female attention. Most normal guys anyway....

Also show me a study that actually proves attraction to violent behavior

It's a common mistake but the attraction is to AGGRESSION, not violent behavior. And it's aggression towards others, not the women. Anger is emotion that gets the biggest rise.

Some women do get an attraction to violent behavior, but they're mental nutcases.

I legitimately feel bad for him

I do too, that's why I gave him my two posts of genuine advice. Everything after this will be mockery.

 

[Starefag]

Men commit 99% of rape and cope with it by telling each other it's women who actually like it because femcels and bored housewives read smut sometimes

tbh I'd say it's more of a 30/70% split. Women have predatory behaviors but outright rape isn't really how they're socialized.
It's more likely she manipulates someone into a compromising position through sex. Or inhibits them. Which isn't really *rape*, but is still sexual assault. IIRC, at least.
I would say that the smut cope is retarded because the whole bit about Christian Grey is that he's desirable and 'wants to have' this plain woman.

 

[germs]

TBF he didn't kill any innocent civilians, his only kill was a muslim cop who is a defender of immigration, hypergamy, and actual criminals. Police basically just exist to kill law abiding men who step out of line and get fed up with the state of the world all the while protecting real criminals.

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His life was already worthless and he'd have eventually killed himself anyway. this attack cost him nothing.

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Incel mass shooters aren't the problem, the fact that we're suffering enough to justify these actions is a problem. Why don't you fucking fix that instead?

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WOMEN THAT HAVE CONDEMNED ME TO THIS FUCKING LIFE.

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I'd come up with some sort of sarcastic comment but I can't think of anything funnier than what you have posted here.

faggot

I NEED A MAN AND PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE TERRORISTS FOR DENYING THAT TO WOMEN LIKE ME

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Grass is always greener, for sure.

retard

I'm so fucking done with this stupid green nigger website. I feel trapped here. It's like I'm watching YouTube Shorts. The past few weeks have been just utter nonsense everyday that I cant stop posting to shiwi and reading posts from shiwi. People are giving me too much attention for my own good, it's simulacrum a socialization. It's total waste of time that I've wasted 100+ hours what the fuck am I doing with my life could've been something more better going on. It's because of fucking Joshua Connor Moon everything what he's done to society. It's shiwi internet drama nonsense going on as a fucking green fog in my mind that I can't think about anything else for the past weeks. It's a green brain fog I need to fucking dispel it with a big fan! Joshua "Null" Connor "Ibanz" Moon developing behaviorist cybernetic loops to use notification bell skinner boxes to exploit the Nimbus Accumbens of people with get addicted to things easily personality type. I have such a tremendous headache.

Scheming jew Null already successfully profited $260 off of me by way of I donated $20 worth of Brave Browser basic attention tokens to him back in #dropkiwifarms era back in like 2021-22, and @The Miggly Bundus gifted me 12 month of Joshua Moon T&H subscription service which is literally just made up fake bullshit like robux, it's an ultra high profit margin infinitely printable digital good which offer no real value anybody as just pixels of yellow and black true and honest fan rectangle underneath someones picture and ability to give Semper Fidelis pickles to other people's posts as a reference to the US Marine Corps. With I guess some advertisement capabilities gave it to you could be useful to something as gain the attention eyes from visitors to KiwiFarms website, that's called sponsorship feature in the benefits package.

I have to break free from the cage Null is holding me in, he's got his grip on me and totally controlling my behavior using subtle techniques, That's why I'm RETIRING from shiwi, I'm DONE with shiwi and I won't be checking up on shiwi to read every shiwi SNCA posts anymore. I'm going to be limiting major the influence of KiwiFarms in my pathway of my life as maybe just use it for see what the News is in the world and learn News about what's happening going on via blotter messages is features is happenings. I can't keep being slave to the green fog in my brain implanted by Null via fucking shiwi parasocial relationship chatbox thread! Fuck the shiwi, I'm done with it.

cross-based

change my mind

 

[Billy Hargrove]

Lots of men in their 20’s at my work. Most are average looking, some are short or obese. None are rich just making average professional salaries. Yet they all have nice long term girlfriends or wives. I just don’t see this wasteland that the incels talks about. Seems like a skill issue maybe.

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

It's funny how it's always the people most in need of meds that insist they're poison
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Serious question, is Fanon worth reading if you're not a Commie but you are openly interested in the intellectual history of Globohomo? As I understand he's one of the Unholy Trinity of French Pedophile, Frankfurter Jews and Afrikaman that Current Year was cobbled together from.

 

[FieldPiece]

Are we doing phrenology bits now?
Anyway this isn't at all true, wanna know why? Ghengis Fucking Khan is why. Bro built an empire and had sultans paying tribute. Abolished forced marriage through kidnapping. The sexes were quite equal in mongolia, actually. To the point where the arabs had to censor their own recountings of Ghengis showing deference towards his primary wife on several occasions, because it mindraped the muslims that someone as powerful as the Khan would allow his wife say in ANYTHING.

"This doesn't address the sex attracted to violent behavior"
Getting to that.
One of his descendents, a wife of a general, locked in her family line as the heirs to mongolia. Who then went on to create the forbidden city in china's capitol, kicking off the dynastic golden age for China itself.

Also show me a study that actually proves attraction to violent behavior
50 shades of grey sales are not a valid source.

I don't need a study, just go talk to any abusive guy and you'll find he's almost never without a woman to abuse. Or hell ask any woman about their ex and they're always "abusive". So either they're attracted to violent men or they're liars, take your pick.

You could also just take a look at the "literature" women read, half of it is rape fantasies and the other half is serial killer fantasies. Every other woman is obsessed with true crime. Or you could just look at probably 25% of womens thighs/wrists and realize that women are insane.

It ain't men writing fanfics about Ed Gein skinning their self insert alive, or Gacy raping them and keeping them employed as a rape slave. Dudes aren't the ones writing or reading Morning Glory Milking Farm.

 

[Mamimi]

I don't need a study, just go talk to any abusive guy and you'll find he's almost never without a woman to abuse. Or hell ask any woman about their ex and they're always "abusive". So either they're attracted to violent men or they're liars, take your pick.

You could also just take a look at the "literature" women read, half of it is rape fantasies and the other half is serial killer fantasies. Every other woman is obsessed with true crime. Or you could just look at probably 25% of womens thighs/wrists and realize that women are insane.

It ain't men writing fanfics about Ed Gein skinning their self insert alive, or Gacy raping them and keeping them employed as a rape slave. Dudes aren't the ones writing or reading Morning Glory Milking Farm.

Is that the kind of stuff your mother reads?

 

[FieldPiece]

Is that the kind of stuff your mother reads?

Pretty much yeah. Growing up in a house full of women you quickly learn they're all utterly insane and all the "men are all perverts" talk is just projection.

 

[Rango Dango]

idk how old you are but if youre yuong enough you can go to college
in college everyone wants to socialize and shit

 

[Penis Drager 2.0]

I tried all that when I was younger but all it did was make my life more stressful and it all felt like a bunch of chores so I eventually gave up. I just accepted that there really isn't any joy to be had in life and people just do things to pass the time until they die.

Have you said these exact words to your therapist?
Look, dude, if professional help and drugs haven't helped, then a bunch of losers online and a bottle of booze are going to be even worse. Venting on the internet may feel cathartic but it's unproductive at best.

Your fundamental problem is that you're miserable and that has become the defining feature of your whole life. Nobody wants to be around a miserable fuck. Women are not attracted to misery.
Anyone offering One Simple Trick to make girls like you is full of shit and probably trying to sell you something. Your mental health issues are complex and will require significant life changes and painful sacrifices to address. There are paid professionals who will help you with the transition. But you have to afford them the trust and commitment to follow the course and tell them the truth if things aren't going as planned.