Debate user The_Cowcel about incels.

[Anime Waifu NFT collector]

@The_Cowcel You didn't reply to my post

 

[The_Cowcel]

JUUUULAAAAAY!!!

@The_Cowcel You didn't reply to my post

I'm long over one of my oneitises. One ghosted me when I was barely a teen and I haven't seen her since and the other is long dead.

 

[Duke Nukem]

That's about 4 hours and a little less than 20 minutes of drinking each day!

I've never been huge on alcohol personally, sure I might have gone out a few times after I turned 21 but that shit gets old fast. I only went out to bars for the social aspect but it was clearly not for me.

@The_Cowcel Alcohol isn't cheap, especially if you drink ten hours a day three days a week. I have alcoholism in my family and it's hard to watch. You're going to be ruined before you're 40 if you don't change your ways.

I don't know if having a retard for a friend is better or worse than having no friends at all. Nobody wants to be friends with a sperg IRL so I can relate on some level.

Plus, I don't know how winning the Superbowl is comparable to losing your virginity. There's nothing wrong with owning a replica Superbowl ring, nobody is going to take you seriously if you insist you were actually on that field that day.

Sports memorabilia has quite the market in and of itself, by the way. But enough about that. Who cares if you pay a woman to have sex with you?

If you're taking a woman you like out on a date anyway, you're still paying for it somehow.

It's not about the money, it's about your ego and your desperate attempt to save face for a bunch of people who don't give a shit.

I'm long over one of my oneitises. One ghosted me when I was barely a teen and I haven't seen her since and the other is long dead.

I once had a oneitis when I was a gigantic tub of lard.

 

[Penis Drager 2.0]

One of the common theme I've hard from people about dating is that I somehow need to be "interesting" but I'm never told what to do to become interesting while being wanted? What interests could I get to appeal to women?

Fuck it. Effortpost time. Here's your step-by-step guide to not being an incel anymore:
1. Cultivate genuine interests and hobbies
This is mandatory. Saying you want women to be attracted to you while refusing to have anything interesting going on in your personal life is like saying you wanna make pancakes while refusing to turn on the stove. Find something to occupy your free time that has nothing to do with women, sex, or self-pity. It can be pretty much anything.
Are you a handsy guy? Maybe invest in some basic carpentry tools. More of a brainy guy? Maybe an Arduino kit is a better investment for you. Sensory guy? Maybe go on a hike and start identifying wildflowers. Maybe learn to cook.
Whatever it is, you will naturally pick up interesting topics to discuss, things to show, and stories to tell. Such is standard fare for not being a chore to be around.
2. Make a basic effort your appearance
Don't do any gay looksmaxxing shit. That level of neuroticism is actually counterproductive. Just get your basic hygiene squared away then take the little extra steps that normal people do.
Try growing your hair just a bit longer than you're comfortable with and then visiting an actual stylist. Tell them you want a low-maintenance cut that looks professional which you can pull off. This is a normal request these trained professionals receive and they're usually more than happy to have the freedom to play. It's genuinely impressive what these people can do. And you should only have to do this once and then go back to your regular barber for monthly maintenance. Even if you're not overjoyed with the results at first, just rock it until the novelty wears off. You will be pleasantly surprised how differently people start to treat you.
As for clothes: Keep them clean; people notice stains. Press and fold or hang them after drying since wrinkles make you look much sloppier than you realize. Women have a weird fixation on other people's shoes that I'll never quite understand. Buy a nice pair and take good care of them. Other than that, just wear the style that you want people to associate with you. People generally prefer to be around people who look the way they act.
Get a nice cologne and go easy on it. A few sprits in the neck and chest area is all you need.
3. Actually go out and talk to people
Now that you have things to talk about and your appearance doesn't cause people to write you off as a schizoid, start talking to people. Conversation is a skill and you probably have a lot of catching up to do.
Learn how to pivot from a boring discussion about the weather to a topic that interests you (see: "cultivate genuine interests and hobbies"). Find out what gets people talking about their interests and what ends up killing a discussion.
Don't try to come out "on top" of every social interaction you have. Let people feel good about themselves when talking to you as that helps you be enjoyable to talk to.
Not every conversation is going to go smoothly and it's not always going to be your fault. Don't spend too much time dwelling one what you said wrong if it's not immediately obvious. Some people are just assholes. And some personality types are just not compatible. That's fine. You will build a circle of friends who are compatible with you by just not being an asshole yourself.

After having developed genuine interests, securing a look that works for you, and obtaining basic social skills, you will find that women will start being as interested in talking to you as you are to them. Women are not the gatekeepers of sexual pleasure. They're not hoarding their pp touches until they find a man they deem worthy. They are just as horny as you are. They enjoy rubbing their genitals just as much as you do.
If these very simple hurdles (and yes, these things really are very fucking simple to a mentally healthy individual) seem insurmountable to you, then you should seriously consider seeing a therapist. These kinds of self-defeating pathologies are explicitly what cognitive behavioral therapy was invented to address.

To tie a bow on all of this, I'll let you in on a dirty little secret: This weird incel delusion that everyone else is effortlessly having pussy fall on their lap is just that. It's a delusion. Even the most attractive and charismatic people you will ever meet are usually in less-than-ideal relationships that they choose to stay in because that's preferable to going back into the dating market. Dating sucks for everyone. Most people are just really good at hiding their insecurities.

 

[Duke Nukem]

@Penis Drager 2.0 Does dunking on incels count as "genuine interests and hobbies?"

 

[Penis Drager 2.0]

@Penis Drager 2.0 Does dunking on incels count as "genuine interests and hobbies?"

Probably exclude your gossip forum activities from your list of potential topics of discussion.
Though I have had a few good conversations with IRL normies about Chris Chan and Landon Hiscock. Whatever works for you I guess, kek.

 

[Duke Nukem]

Probably exclude your gossip forum activities from your list of potential topics of discussion.
Though I have had a few good conversations with IRL normies about Chris Chan and Landon Hiscock. Whatever works for you I guess, kek.

I make jokes about Chris Chan and incels in my IRL circle. But we've known each other for a while.

Of course, I wouldn't mention it around a woman that I actually want to date. But there's a time and place for everything.

 

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

Nobody has shown me any other viable alternatives, people just tell me I'm wrong without even telling me what I could do differently other than giving up.

You continue to go in the same circles.

No one has to show you how - but if they try, you're a jerk for blaming them for your failure.

The reality is you reject all of the people trying to help you by dismissing their direction or advice out of hand.

I'm trying to escape this hell I'm stuck in

No, you're not. You're recognizing the hell, but as I quoted you above, you're not trying because you don't like anything, everything is tedious and futile, etc.

but every time I try I just get dragged deeper and deeper into it,

That's because you insist on filling yourself with self-affirming and -confirming information, without recognizing it's false and defeating you.

I have spent years attempting to build a resilient social circle but once again it's all fallen apart to the point

You've already said that that is because you incessantly pester them to solve your problems without adjusting your own thinking and orientation.

where my only friend is an actual retard who annoys everyone to the point nobody wants him around either, I've been stuck with this faggot for over a half decade and I can't even get rid of him because then I'd be left with no personal connections outside of family.

Don't turn up your nose at the only people who can stand you. You're not better than he is.

huh, the versions I've seen usually have sex at the bottom

Then I'm guessing you've been sourcing from incel or similar places, because the correct Maslow's hierarchy is what I posted.

This tells me you have been lazy and lacked curiosity and inquisitiveness. You should always verify and seek to understand, not just mimic or parrot or cherry-pick what confirms your rigid beliefs.

having gone through the cycle of struggling to get a social group, getting the social group pissed at me, restarting from square one probably three or four times and that's just counting the groups that I had actually grown attached to.

What's the common denominator here?

If I never had to struggle so hard to get a woman I'd still be with that original friend group and I wouldn't be traumatized into alcoholism.

Again, your thinking is circular, bent around a single central belief and obsession. It's possible you'd still have these friends, but as evidenced by how many friend groups you've gone through, that's not likely.

And this statement here is a critical lack of responsibility. You decided to drink however much you do. No one puts that down your gullet.

it's 10 hours over the course of the day/night three days per week. Despite all the time dedicated and all the damage to my health

Oh ffs, you're staring down 30. You haven't irreversibly damaged your health by drinking 3 nights/ week.

I'm too out of touch to know what sad music is popular with the current generation

Lol the current generation is your generation, Young Werther.

I have no guys to hang out with because they all cut me out of their lives because of my desperation for a woman

You know why you have no friends (that you want, except the guy you're too good for*) yet you refuse to address it or stop it. Or appreciate the one person who likes you.

* this reeks of just another version of your circular fixation on "getting a woman"**

**whatever that means to you

 

[The_Cowcel]

It's not about the money, it's about your ego and your desperate attempt to save face for a bunch of people who don't give a shit.

Exactly, sex with a prostitute does nothing to satisfy my ego because I know it's not an actual accomplishment, it's all fake.

@The_Cowcel Alcohol isn't cheap, especially if you drink ten hours a day three days a week. I have alcoholism in my family and it's hard to watch. You're going to be ruined before you're 40 if you don't change your ways.

I plan on changing my ways but it's hard when it's the only thing I've found that helps make me social. Again this is something that would be helped by dating, if I was dating I wouldn't feel the need to spent so many hours trying to build a network.

1. Cultivate genuine interests and hobbies
This is mandatory. Saying you want women to be attracted to you while refusing to have anything interesting going on in your personal life is like saying you wanna make pancakes while refusing to turn on the stove. Find something to occupy your free time that has nothing to do with women, sex, or self-pity. It can be pretty much anything.
Are you a handsy guy? Maybe invest in some basic carpentry tools. More of a brainy guy? Maybe an Arduino kit is a better investment for you. Sensory guy? Maybe go on a hike and start identifying wildflowers. Maybe learn to cook.
Whatever it is, you will naturally pick up interesting topics to discuss, things to show, and stories to tell. Such is standard fare for not being a chore to be around.

I don't have any carpentry work that's in need of fixing and it's something too expensive and bulky to get into, I don't have anything use for an arduino at least for the moment and I don't get the point of identifying wildflowers. I already know how to cook, I enjoy good food, and I do a decent amount of repairs myself but I wouldn't consider that to be an interest or a hobby really. What kind of hobbies do women even like in a man?

2. Make a basic effort your appearance
Don't do any gay looksmaxxing shit. That level of neuroticism is actually counterproductive. Just get your basic hygiene squared away then take the little extra steps that normal people do.
Try growing your hair just a bit longer than you're comfortable with and then visiting an actual stylist. Tell them you want a low-maintenance cut that looks professional which you can pull off. This is a normal request these trained professionals receive and they're usually more than happy to have the freedom to play. It's genuinely impressive what these people can do. And you should only have to do this once and then go back to your regular barber for monthly maintenance. Even if you're not overjoyed with the results at first, just rock it until the novelty wears off. You will be pleasantly surprised how differently people start to treat you.
As for clothes: Keep them clean; people notice stains. Press and fold or hang them after drying since wrinkles make you look much sloppier than you realize. Women have a weird fixation on other people's shoes that I'll never quite understand. Buy a nice pair and take good care of them. Other than that, just wear the style that you want people to associate with you. People generally prefer to be around people who look the way they act.
Get a nice cologne and go easy on it. A few sprits in the neck and chest area is all you need.

Alright, all of that has already been checked off,

3. Actually go out and talk to people
Now that you have things to talk about and your appearance doesn't cause people to write you off as a schizoid, start talking to people. Conversation is a skill and you probably have a lot of catching up to do.
Learn how to pivot from a boring discussion about the weather to a topic that interests you (see: "cultivate genuine interests and hobbies"). Find out what gets people talking about their interests and what ends up killing a discussion.

Alright, just initiating any sort of conversation at all is a huge step that I usually struggle to pass while sober(and when I'm out I don't drink enough to even get slightly buzzed too expensive). How would I even go about starting a conversation and learning how to act? Hell one of the big discussion killers I have is just that I'm intentionally passive and try to let the other person lead the conversation, I'm too nervous to try to lead or even offer much input.

After having developed genuine interests, securing a look that works for you, and obtaining basic social skills, you will find that women will start being as interested in talking to you as you are to them. Women are not the gatekeepers of sexual pleasure. They're not hoarding their pp touches until they find a man they deem worthy. They are just as horny as you are. They enjoy rubbing their genitals just as much as you do.

Nothing would have changed from their perspective though, I don't make it far enough in my interactions with women for my interests and hobbies to come up, I'm already in decent shape and well groomed, and my social skills are irrelevant unless I'm able to make it over the hurdle of initiating interaction as well as being relaxed enough I'm willing to take mild social risks rather than overanalyzing everything I plan to say and intentionally trying to curate an unobjectionable blank slate persona.

You've already said that that is because you incessantly pester them to solve your problems without adjusting your own thinking and orientation.

What is there to change other than just giving up entirely? My thinking is almost entirely devoted to trying to escape my loneliness. I was trying to get information on socializing from the only peers I had that I considered to be close to me and all I got out of it was abandonment.

You continue to go in the same circles.

No one has to show you how - but if they try, you're a jerk for blaming them for your failure.

The reality is you reject all of the people trying to help you by dismissing their direction or advice out of hand.

I don't feel like the advice as presented is actionable to me. How am I meant to get genuine interests when nothing interests me much? What advice have I recieved that I have yet to try? I've even tried giving up as some people here have suggested. I'm not dismissing advice I'm pointing out that it's not enough and I know that because I've spent years trying it.

Then I'm guessing you've been sourcing from incel or similar places, because the correct Maslow's hierarchy is what I posted.

This tells me you have been lazy and lacked curiosity and inquisitiveness. You should always verify and seek to understand, not just mimic or parrot or cherry-pick what confirms your rigid beliefs.

The one I quickly referenced before leaving that comment was whatever the search engine fed me, probably from Wikipedia or something, it's not like I was cherry picking here.

What's the common denominator here?

My starting position and the fact that I'm desperately chasing a life milestone most kids reach before they can even drink legally? No reason to assume it's my personality that's the problem rather than my delayed developmental state.

Again, your thinking is circular, bent around a single central belief and obsession. It's possible you'd still have these friends, but as evidenced by how many friend groups you've gone through, that's not likely.

I lost the later friend groups for basically the same reason of being desperate for a woman. My desperation has consumed and ruined my life so what's so unreasonably about trying to solve said desperation?

Lol the current generation is your generation, Young Werther.

And? I'm too out of touch to know what we listen to, I'm only familiar with the music my parents and their friends listen to.

You know why you have no friends (that you want, except the guy you're too good for*) yet you refuse to address it or stop it. Or appreciate the one person who likes you.

How do I just stop being desperate to reach a sorely missed life milestone? To me the easiest and clearest way seems like it would be to *reach* that milestone

 

[Duke Nukem]

@The_Cowcel So you refuse to pay for sex and you insist on dating as an avenue through which to fix your life.

Honestly I can respect the insistence on never wanting a hooker. It's about the only thing you don't have going against you.

Your insistence that it's "too hard" to quit drinking or at least reduce it embodies your approach to everything in life. You insist on dating as being the solution to your alcoholism, which is, to put it mildly, quite laughable.

What do you want, some random woman to walk up to you and offer to have sex with you if you promise to give up the bottle?

That's just not how life works.

 

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

What is there to change other than just giving up entirely? My thinking is almost entirely devoted to trying to escape my loneliness. I was trying to get information on socializing from the only peers I had that I considered to be close to me and all I got out of it was abandonment.

If you do something that has negative outcome, then keep doing it, with that knowledge, you're effectively causing that outcome.

I don't feel like the advice as presented is actionable to me.

Again, you're caught in assuming you know best, despite your way of doing things leading to unhappiness.

How am I meant to get genuine interests when nothing interests me much?

Get on meds, maybe, if you won't or can't dislodge the fixation.

What advice have I recieved that I have yet to try? I've even tried giving up as some people here have suggested. I'm not dismissing advice I'm pointing out that it's not enough and I know that because I've spent years trying it.

Wgat else do you think people can tell you other than the right things to do? If you're carrying in a certainty it won't work, it won't.

The one I quickly referenced before leaving that comment was whatever the search engine fed me, probably from Wikipedia or something, it's not like I was cherry picking here.

No: you mentioned it in another thread as well. And then you said, after I posted a correct rendering, that you've always seen sex as in the food band. But either way, the point is that lack of sex =/= lack of food. So I return to my point that people missing much more basic needs are able to find joy and keep trying.

My starting position and the fact that I'm desperately chasing a life milestone most kids reach before they can even drink legally? No reason to assume it's my personality that's the problem rather than my delayed developmental state.

No, the common denominator is you - or more specifically your fixed ideas and approach. Not necessarily your personality," but absolutely the approach you have to life and people in general.

I lost the later friend groups for basically the same reason of being desperate for a woman. My desperation has consumed and ruined my life so what's so unreasonably about trying to solve said desperation?

AGAIN, the answer is not continuing to pursue your decided obsession. It's opening your mind and letting obsessions and desperate fixation to float away.

And? I'm too out of touch to know what we listen to, I'm only familiar with the music my parents and their friends listen to.

OK. Either get with it or embrace what you do know and like. The answer is not pointing at your decision to be out of touch as some kind of evidence of something you can't change. You can.

What you listen to isn't the point; the point is that your attitude about it is exactly the same helplessness and refusal to think differently you bring to other questions.

How do I just stop being desperate to reach a sorely missed life milestone? To me the easiest and clearest way seems like it would be to *reach* that milestone

Clearly your "easiest and clearest way" to get past it seems to be to get what you want. That perspective is your central problem and the log you continually stumble over. What you need is to let go of it all - not trying, not actively rejecting/ checking out, but to let it and all your ways of thinking go. Your own mind - and it's largely an extreme version of general human tendency - is your biggest obstacle. I'd recommend diving into Buddhist thinking as a method to be able to let go of shit, but I suspect that will be dismissed as well. But training yourself to let go of the things that seem most important (and not flipping to annihilation, btw) is often a good path and method to contentment. You don't want that, though; you want whatever it is you want. But so long as you fixate on that want, you'll continue to spin in misery.

 

[The Last Stand]

I have little interest in most activities and am repulsed by the idea of dating and having sex with men. I already have my hobbies but I find them to be generally unfulfilling.

I don't understand how to gain a sense of self and I as I said before I don't know what sort of skills to focus on. On top of that my skill seems to plateau pretty low at basically everything I try. I've never had any interest in anything productive of creative largely because I find shame in the inadequacies of my creations rather than any pride for accomplishing it.

God damn, man. I know life is hard for some, but your attitude and apathy isn't helping at all.

To be more specific it's 10 hours over the course of the day/night three days per week.

That's how much I work full time. However, there's still the power in me to do what I can to mitigate the bad into good.

 

[Penis Drager 2.0]

I don't have any carpentry work that's in need of fixing and it's something too expensive and bulky to get into, I don't have anything use for an arduino at least for the moment and I don't get the point of identifying wildflowers. I already know how to cook, I enjoy good food,

My nigga. It's not about the goal. It's about having things you enjoy doing. It's about having substance to your life that doesn't revolve around women or sex.

What kind of hobbies do women even like in a man?

My nigga.... Stop it.

just initiating any sort of conversation at all is a huge step that I usually struggle to pass while sober

I understand it can be hard. It can be hard for "normal" people too.

How would I even go about starting a conversation and learning how to act?

"Lovely weather we're having."
Jokes aside, That pivot from the mundane to the interesting is pretty much the whole point. Think of it like a little puzzle where you're trying to tie a mundane observation about what's in front of you to something either you or whoever you're talking to are interested in. Get the person you're talking to to play along and you have a conversation.

Hell one of the big discussion killers I have is just that I'm intentionally passive and try to let the other person lead the conversation, I'm too nervous to try to lead or even offer much input.

See: "cultivate genuine interests and hobbies."
If the anxiety really is insurmountable then see: "a therapist."

my social skills are irrelevant unless I'm able to make it over the hurdle of initiating interaction as well as being relaxed enough I'm willing to take mild social risks rather than overanalyzing everything I plan to say and intentionally trying to curate an unobjectionable blank slate persona.

1. Initiate interaction with a mundane observation
2. tie that in with something you are genuinely interested in
3. give the person you're talking to the opportunity to tie their interest in to yours
Yes. This is all predicated on you having genuine interests that don't involve women or sex.
If you have trouble cultivating such interests, then it is time to see a therapist.

 

[Starefag]

Oh is it one of these again.
Stop chasing pussy. Make connections and pussy will find you.
The less you think about it the less it matters, and the easier it is to get it.

 

[The_Cowcel]

Your insistence that it's "too hard" to quit drinking or at least reduce it embodies your approach to everything in life. You insist on dating as being the solution to your alcoholism, which is, to put it mildly, quite laughable.

What do you want, some random woman to walk up to you and offer to have sex with you if you promise to give up the bottle?

I don't think it would be that hard for me to quit drinking if I wasn't constantly trying to get social practice and build a social circle. Having a woman would mean I'd have less reason to constantly push myself to have interactions with people.

If you do something that has negative outcome, then keep doing it, with that knowledge, you're effectively causing that outcome.

Perhaps in most cases, but in this case I had tried everything I and my family could think of with only negative outcomes and trying to seek other options from other people leads to negative outcomes. If everything I can possibly do causes a negative outcome then taking the risk of negative outcome while looking for new options seems like the smart thing to do. I have had barely any positive social interactions over the course of my life and I see no way of the loneliness I'm tortured by.

Again, you're caught in assuming you know best, despite your way of doing things leading to unhappiness.

Most of "my way" has just been a genuine attempt to follow the advice of others and most that advice is of the same sort that I've received here. I am literally asking for advice so I can try something new but whenever I do I'm accused of claiming to know best and shooting down every option.

Get on meds, maybe, if you won't or can't dislodge the fixation.

I don't need to be turned into a drugged up zombie. If I stop caring about getting a woman then I'll have nothing left to care about, it's not healthy to be a socially isolated genetic dead end with

Wgat else do you think people can tell you other than the right things to do? If you're carrying in a certainty it won't work, it won't.

Most of the advice has been things that I either can't do at all, am currently doing, or have tried for a significant period of time in the past. I either need new things to try or more detail in how to try.

No, the common denominator is you - or more specifically your fixed ideas and approach. Not necessarily your personality," but absolutely the approach you have to life and people in general.

What other approach can I take other than completely giving up? I've never been taught how to navigate life, growing up I was always told what to do and didn't have any real life social groups to observe peer dynamics in.

AGAIN, the answer is not continuing to pursue your decided obsession. It's opening your mind and letting obsessions and desperate fixation to float away.

I don't have many wants or interests outside of that desperation. Most things just remind me of my inadequacies both in skill and quality of life.

OK. Either get with it or embrace what you do know and like. The answer is not pointing at your decision to be out of touch as some kind of evidence of something you can't change. You can.

What you listen to isn't the point; the point is that your attitude about it is exactly the same helplessness and refusal to think differently you bring to other questions.

Yes, and I am asking how to curate my tastes to be desirable to the largest amount of women, I'm really not that picky with music so I'll get into whatever whatever

Clearly your "easiest and clearest way" to get past it seems to be to get what you want. That perspective is your central problem and the log you continually stumble over. What you need is to let go of it all - not trying, not actively rejecting/ checking out, but to let it and all your ways of thinking go. Your own mind - and it's largely an extreme version of general human tendency - is your biggest obstacle. I'd recommend diving into Buddhist thinking as a method to be able to let go of shit, but I suspect that will be dismissed as well. But training yourself to let go of the things that seem most important (and not flipping to annihilation, btw) is often a good path and method to contentment. You don't want that, though; you want whatever it is you want. But so long as you fixate on that want, you'll continue to spin in misery.

I think I've already tried that. for a period of years I was just cooped up in my room gaming, only going out for work not bothering with dating sites or trying to maximize my appeal to women and I was just as miserable and bitter than as I am now.

God damn, man. I know life is hard for some, but your attitude and apathy isn't helping at all.

I never really chose to be apathetic or have this attitude, life beat it into me through constant unceasing failure.

My nigga. It's not about the goal. It's about having things you enjoy doing. It's about having substance to your life that doesn't revolve around women or sex.

I understand that's the case for most people but almost everything I've tried just seems dull and not worth the time and money.

See: "cultivate genuine interests and hobbies."
If the anxiety really is insurmountable then see: "a therapist."

1. Initiate interaction with a mundane observation
2. tie that in with something you are genuinely interested in
3. give the person you're talking to the opportunity to tie their interest in to yours
Yes. This is all predicated on you having genuine interests that don't involve women or sex.
If you have trouble cultivating such interests, then it is time to see a therapist.

As I've said previously I've started therapy recently and have gone in the past for similar issues .

Oh is it one of these again.
Stop chasing pussy. Make connections and pussy will find you.
The less you think about it the less it matters, and the easier it is to get it.

Making connections is a hell of a lot easier said than done.

 

[The Last Stand]

Making connections is a hell of a lot easier said than done.

Write a novel then.

 

[𝕺𝖑' 𝕯𝖎𝖗𝖙𝖞 𝕱𝖆𝖙𝖘𝖔]

Goddamn this nigga is the final boss of learned helplessness. I swear to fucking god

 

[Neodanthril]

everyone making 150 quotes for every single line of every single post makes this thread incredibly unreadable and especially gaytarded. op is the most gaytarded though for replying to more than four people in a single post. that is the hallmark of a post no one should ever read. @Penis Drager 2.0 made the only post worth reading itt. @The_Cowcel shut the fuck up nigger and go do literally anything that doesnt involve your computer, phone, videogame console, or masturbating.

 

[Butterschmalz]

Own it.

 

[Mamimi]

I'm trying to escape this hell I'm stuck in but every time I try I just get dragged deeper and deeper into it, I have spent years attempting to build a resilient social circle but once again it's all fallen apart to the point where my only friend is an actual retard who annoys everyone to the point nobody wants him around either, I've been stuck with this faggot for over a half decade and I can't even get rid of him because then I'd be left with no personal connections outside of family.

So you actually have someone willing to be friends with you but you insult him because you think you're better than him. Class act. You're an unpleasant person and that's why people don't want to be around you. But let me guess, you're only like that because you didn't get a girlfriend early enough in life and you'd be a ray of fucking sunshine if only a woman waltzed up to you and dropped her panties.

I guess it's not that shocking you'd be desperate enough to associate with someone you have contempt with though, considering you don't even seem to like women despite your desperation to "get" one. Why do you even want a girlfriend if you don't enjoy the company of women in the first place? What do you think you'd get out of a relationship?

I don't have any carpentry work that's in need of fixing and it's something too expensive and bulky to get into, I don't have anything use for an arduino at least for the moment and I don't get the point of identifying wildflowers. I already know how to cook, I enjoy good food, and I do a decent amount of repairs myself but I wouldn't consider that to be an interest or a hobby really. What kind of hobbies do women even like in a man?

They were giving examples, you autist, not demanding you engage in those specific activities. But it's funny how even with someone spoon-feeding you suggestions for hobbies to try you find a reason to reject every one of them because they're difficult or pointless. If someone threw you a life raft while you were drowning, you'd pop out of the water to complain about how you've already been treading water for 10 minutes, you hate swimming, and you don't see the point anyway if you can't get a woman.

Goddamn this nigga is the final boss of learned helplessness. I swear to fucking god

Can you imagine dating this guy and dealing with him once he realized a girlfriend didn't magically fix his autism and sadbrains? Based on what I've seen when guys like this actually stumble into pussy, he'd refuse to put effort into the relationship or treat her well while also being desperate for her not to leave him.