Debate user The_Cowcel about incels.

[The_Cowcel]

Sorry to continue shitting up the thread

AI assisted explanation on why the employable autists can't keep a job longer than a period of two or three years. The only way out is allegedly through self-employment or welfare. But according to the comments, working out of an home office isn't exactly stress-free

Sounds relatable but honestly the prospect of working a full time job for even two years sounds like hell and I don't think I could ever manage it. I've worked full time for a couple months total and the entire time was spent working, recovering from work, and dreading the next day of work,

Look, I get that you're an autist. But would it kill you to stop acting out the "AI will improve my life" stereotype.

I'm not? it was literally a comment comparing the soulessness of a prostitute to the souless of a LLM and giving praise to LLMs for one of the things they actually do competently which is *language*, something that is less reliable when it comes to prostitutes.

More whining about the excessive mental bandwidth that indirect communication consumes.

Specifically it's an autist with a begger friend who has been getting pissed that it's efforts at begging have not been met with receiving money. The autist then instead of realizing what a piece of shit the friend is instead complains that his friend isn't begging for money directly enough. That on it's own is more amusing then what you presented, but you missed the autistic slap fight in the comments.

Spoiler: such autism

I can relate to your feelings of ennui and I'm not going to tell you to bootstrap your way into having a normal healthy brain that can enjoy life. But you're preoccupied with the idea that "getting a woman" will fix all your problems.

It would at least be a new experience in my life and would allow me to focus on other things rather than having all of my time taken up by doing whatever I'm told is meant to enable me to get a woman. Considering how many of my problems relate to not having a woman or any social connections outside of my family I think it would be unreasonable to say that it wouldn't fix a large number of my problems.

If I didn't spend upwards of ten years desperately having to search for a woman and wasting all of my energy doing all the bullshit I've been told to I also would have been in a much better position in life as I would have been able to start working and my life wouldn't be such a mess.

This is something I see frequently in autistic men. They work dead end jobs they hate or are just unemployed, have no friends, and no hobbies other than video games, but they say they'd be willing to change if they had a girlfriend who would motivate them and give them something to live for.

What is there to change? A job isn't meant to be fulfilling, I was contemplating suicide basically every day when I was working it was absolute hell especially knowing that I'm not working for anything other than a pointless life of misery. I've had friends in the past, they always end up growing to hate me because of my desperation for women and I don't know where to meet people anymore. I've tried other hobbies but nothing interested me much, am I meant to just force myself to keep engaging in hobbies that I have no interest in doing so I appear more attractive to women assuming I'm ever able to get far enough for it to come up?

That's not something most women are interested in getting in on. The idea of a man being dependent on us to remain functional is a lot of pressure, and it's antithetical to having sexual feelings for them because you feel like their mother.

I'm already functional I just don't have motivation for anything because my life is currently in a state where it isn't worth living and there's nothing I can do to change it, I'm entirely dependent on others giving me the ability to have a life like so many others seem to have, every fucking time I try I just get told that I'll never be able to get a life because I don't already have one. Even my fucking dad tells me I'll never have friends, or a girlfriend, and my life will never be worth living and I should just be content slaving away to support everyone else who has lives that I would gladly kill for.

I don't know about your current situation at this moment, and I'm sure as fuck no expert at this, but all I can tell you is that there's so much more to life then getting women. You shouldn't be stressing over shit like this when you haven't even been able to take care of your own problems. Yeah, it can be hard being lonely, but in my eyes, it's better being lonely than being heartbroken over a relationship that you weren't even ready for in the first place.

Nothing fills that need though and the only problems I have are a lack of a woman and social life, both of which would be helped by having a woman. I don't see how I am meant to take care of my own problems when the nature of my problems is that I don't have anyone else. Funny how everyone who says it's better to be lonely is always someone who has had sexual and romantic experiences of their own. It's like telling a starving man that it's better to not eat than have a meal you might not enjoy.

 

[Helping Friendly Book]

Nothing fills that need though and the only problems I have are a lack of a woman and social life, both of which would be helped by having a woman. I don't see how I am meant to take care of my own problems when the nature of my problems is that I don't have anyone else. Funny how everyone who says it's better to be lonely is always someone who has had sexual and romantic experiences of their own. It's like telling a starving man that it's better to not eat than have a meal you might not enjoy.

Then you should work on building up your social life then. If not through real life due to circumstances that prevent you from going out, then through people online. I'm not saying to depend on it 100% of the time and to treat it as your primary way of meeting people, but it wouldn't hurt to try it out.

 

[The_Cowcel]

I’m really getting so fucking tired of these retard shooters that keep killing innocent civilians for no reason or benefit whatsoever.

I’m in no way condoning or advocating for it but if you’re deadset on killing people and then killing yourself just assassinate a key politician or figure that you have a bone to pick with instead of going full nigmode murdering random innocent people just going out on their day to day life. Shooting up a supermarket or mall accomplishes nothing (besides you going to hell forever for being subhuman). Tarant killed a whole lot of muzzies in his mass shooting spree, and what did It accomplish? Nothing besides complete gun control and the government cracking down further on right wing dissidents

Mass shooters should start by pulling the trigger and shooting themselves first before they go on their mass shooting spree

TBF he didn't kill any innocent civilians, his only kill was a muslim cop who is a defender of immigration, hypergamy, and actual criminals. Police basically just exist to kill law abiding men who step out of line and get fed up with the state of the world all the while protecting real criminals.

What I don't understand is how becoming retard failed mass-shooter who embarrasses himself with sheer incompetence #429 is going to change the world? It's not shocking any more.

It doesn't need to change the world as long as it makes a point. either he went out with a bang or he'd end up killing himself, made all the more likely by the legalization of suicide and the crackdown on ability to get weaponry. He was wronged by the world, denied things other people get effortlessly and he had no hope of ever having a life worth living. I can't blame him. Better to die a martyr for a hopeless cause retaliating against the evils of the world than to kill yourself alone like a cuckold.

Good job throwing your life away for nothing, dipshit.

His life was already worthless and he'd have eventually killed himself anyway. this attack cost him nothing.

Incels once again proving that anyone both too socially inept to get laid, and too stupid to hire a hooker deserves nothing but contempt, mockery, ridicule and ultimately an early death from their self inflicted misery.

Rest in piss, fuckpig.

Hookers do nothing to provide the validation of being able to get a woman.

I'm sure lots has been done for school shootings, ( sadism revenge, shock, copycats and lack of resistance are the big ones) but going Rambo in general is more a crime of passion that is at odds with bothering to write a manifesto. Why don't we see more serial killers of this type? More people attempting to poison the water supply of make bombs? We don't even see many rapist incels or the type of serial killer that really get joy from harming woman like you would see in boomer serial killers.

Most incels are high inhibition and expect everything we do to fail and modern society is filled with surveillance, you won't get very far as an ugly uncharismatic rapist and serial killer so why even try? At least with a mass shooting or bombing you're bound to get at least a kill or two. Sex is pointless without validation anyway.

Funny enough mass stabbings are also surprisingly effective so it's not like gun control even matters, you can get a piece of steel, sharpen it and go stabbing and most people will just stand around like NPCs not reacting.

" That is sweeping the problem under the rug. It doesn't address the issue." It does because it gets rid of the incel mass shooter problem, that's like you saying that putting criminals in prison doesn't address the issue of crime.

Incel mass shooters aren't the problem, the fact that we're suffering enough to justify these actions is a problem. Why don't you fucking fix that instead?

Not everyone, just the schizo crazy incels.

So if we're going to get locked up for being sexless and wanting a woman doesn't that just justify violent retaliation against sex havers? You're going to give us a fate worse than death so that justifies any act to retaliate.

I don't care how they feel, they are retarded and need to get better.

Getting better means having the ability to have sex with a woman, something you would be robbing us of.

Again you propose no solutions even though I asked you twice, I already said this is a personal issue, not a societal issue, the problem is not for "society" to solve, it's for them to solve, this is not a problem good men have. You keep throwing the ball at society as if it was society fault and when I asked you twice to name the problem and propose a solution you keep ignoring it, are you retarded? Saying "how do we help young men?" is not a solution.

How about forcing women to settle, heavily taxing them for being single and criminalizing sex outside of wedlock?

I personally would just get a gym membership and pay a decent escort to raw dog once rather then blast niggers and get a bullet in my skull, but that's just me.

As a gymcel I've got to say that it's not enough for a huge chunk of men and prostitutes are just a waste of money, I didn't get the experience of checking off a life milestone from fucking a whore.

Angry young men have been the recruiting ground for violence and extremism since forever and especially since WWII. In the past we had wars to keep the male population down, but since 1945 nuclear weapons mean the age of the Big War that kills entire generations of men are a thing of the past (and WWIII will kill indiscriminately). It's not a coincidence that things like terrorism have only been a thing on a global scale since then.

Any population of young men with a grievance will have an associated extremist movement that recruits from them. Rightoid militias, Antifa, Islamic extremists, murder-cults, all draw from their culture's disaffected young men, and from the populations of Virgins with Rage you get the Incels. It's actually quite remarkable how similar their ideologies actually are (for the extremists, anyway) - "I have no job, can't get laid, don't have a future, it's all the fault of [insert political faction, race, economic class, gender, religion or country here] so we should kill them, that will fix all our problems and lead us to the promised land."

Problem is, without a surplus of women compared to men, large numbers of men will be under-paid, under-employed and under-sexed. And they will be really angry about that, angry enough that extremist ideologies will find willing recruits amongst them. It's hard to figure out what will fix that without finding something that will kill off large numbers of men.

Maybe Lidl Drip was right all along. Kill moids to save moids.

You people are subhuman and deserving of death. You'd rather kill men for the crime of being sexless rather than forcing these evil whores to settle for average men. Fuck you cunt.

This but ban MGTOW and incel forums instead. We need less online communities that exploit fatherless children and condemn them to a life devoid of women. Genuinely no one but moids has a problem lol.

Motherfucker it's THE WOMEN THAT HAVE CONDEMNED ME TO THIS FUCKING LIFE. NOTHING TO DO WITH FORUMS, I WAS LIKE THIS BEFORE THE FUCKING FORUMS. I NEED A WOMAN AND PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE TERRORISTS FOR DENYING THAT TO MEN LIKE ME.

It's funny how everyone openly wants to kill and torture incels but it's suddenly news when one of ours kills someone.

 

[Brenda Holiday]

It's very two-faced to tell incels that sex doesn't matter, and also say they deserve to die for not getting laid.

They don't deserve to die for not getting laid, they do however deserve to die for being extremely cringy about it.

 

[Greatest Gonger]

Motherfucker it's THE WOMEN THAT HAVE CONDEMNED ME TO THIS FUCKING LIFE. NOTHING TO DO WITH FORUMS, I WAS LIKE THIS BEFORE THE FUCKING FORUMS. I NEED A WOMAN AND PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE TERRORISTS FOR DENYING THAT TO MEN LIKE ME.

It's funny how everyone openly wants to kill and torture incels but it's suddenly news when one of ours kills someone.

Historically there has never been any guarantee that each man would receive a woman, like as a coming of age gift. Loads of creepy weirdos in history never partnered, and loads of hostile ugly women became spinsters. You might just be one of the forever alones.

 

[Brenda Holiday]

Historically there has never been any guarantee that each man would receive a woman, like as a coming of age gift. Loads of creepy weirdos in history never partnered, and loads of hostile ugly women became spinsters. You might just be one of the forever alones.

Men and women that were worth a shit found ways to contribute to society without relationships or reproducing. Incels are only capable of leeching off society, tedious manifestos, and failed mass shootings.

 

[Spunt]

You people are subhuman and deserving of death. You'd rather kill men for the crime of being sexless rather than forcing these evil whores to settle for average men. Fuck you cunt.

Imagine being called subhuman by someone unable to breed. Like dude, fucking hominids in the Rift Valley got laid. Niggers get laid. Rich Evans gets laid.

I'd tell you to shoot yourself but you'd somehow fire blanks.

 

[The_Cowcel]

Historically there has never been any guarantee that each man would receive a woman, like as a coming of age gift. Loads of creepy weirdos in history never partnered, and loads of hostile ugly women became spinsters. You might just be one of the forever alones.

Men without the ability to reproduce have no reason to contribute and every reason to burn down the world around us. doubly so when there isn't even the promise of being able to get a wife through war and conquest. Military recruitment and support for war would probably spike massively if they started promising war brides.

I don't see why people dismiss the importance of men having a reason to contribute instead of killing ourselves in suicidal attacks. Look at the middle east for what happens when men are denied the chance to reproduce, they just become jihadis because it's better to die than continue living their lives the way they are.

Men and women that were worth a shit found ways to contribute to society without relationships or reproducing. Incels are only capable of leeching off society, tedious manifestos, and failed mass shootings.

Why contribute to a society that has denied us the ability to fulfil one of our most powerful biological desires? You may as well tell us to be content being eunich slaves.

Imagine being called subhuman by someone unable to breed. Like dude, fucking hominids in the Rift Valley got laid. Niggers get laid. Rich Evans gets laid.

I'm only failing because society has removed all incentives that used to force women to settle. They have no financial need of men so they only chase the ones they find hot meanwhile average men like me are left slaving away our entire lives slaving away in vain in hopes of getting a crumb of pussy. Society is fucked and the denial of this problem will only make things worse.

 

[ICantLegallySayThat]

You people are subhuman and deserving of death. You'd rather kill men for the crime of being sexless rather than forcing these evil whores to settle for average men. Fuck you cunt.

Sex is pointless without validation anyway.

Why are you so angry at women if you care what they think? If they are evil why argue in the first place? Take a breather and think it through a little more.

Motherfucker it's THE WOMEN THAT HAVE CONDEMNED ME TO THIS FUCKING LIFE. NOTHING TO DO WITH FORUMS, I WAS LIKE THIS BEFORE THE FUCKING FORUMS. I NEED A WOMAN AND PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE TERRORISTS FOR DENYING THAT TO MEN LIKE ME.

Obviously this is bait. Stop taking bait and freaking out.

 

[Spunt]

I'm only failing because society has removed all incentives that used to force women to settle.

I'd come up with some sort of sarcastic comment but I can't think of anything funnier than what you have posted here.

 

[Potion_Time]

They don't deserve to die for not getting laid, they do however deserve to die for being extremely cringy about it.

Is it even possible to not be cringy about not getting laid? Men above 30 who don't have significant others or children are almost always viewed with a sideways glance. Unless you're a celebrity or something, in which case they can fill in sexual history gaps on their own.

I mean, just ask yourself, if you knew a 40 year old man who had never been married or in a relationship of any sort to your knowledge, would you ask them to look after your kids? I'm not saying its fair, but society views certain milestones as mandatory. Missing those milestones usually has social consequences unless you can show worth in some other way. It's part of being human. If you don't want to be judged, join a monastery and give yourself a socially acceptable excuse for being a kissless virgin.

 

[cleanerfromvenus]

I mean, just ask yourself, if you knew a 40 year old man who had never been married or in a relationship of any sort to your knowledge, would you ask them to look after your kids?

They're called teachers. They do it all the time.

 

[Potion_Time]

They're called teachers.

Granted, I don't pay attention to the social lives of school teachers. But I doubt very many of them are single middle aged men who aren't either divorced or gay and therefore worthy of the very scrutiny I said society performs in the first place.

 

[Mamimi]

Why contribute to a society that has denied us the ability to fulfil one of our most powerful biological desires? You may as well tell us to be content being eunich slaves.

You contribute to society for your own sake. You're expected to have a job so you can feed and house yourself instead of expecting other adults to take care of you. I have no idea why incels think their wagie job is supposed to come with a boyfriend-free girl. Women manage to go to work every day without shooting up any schools or churches and not even the femcels are whining about how it's so unfair they're expected to pull their own weight without complimentary dick attached.

Terrorist attacks like this will never result in women being subjugated because most of you are too cowardly and lazy to do anything besides vomit blackpill garbage on the internet.

Btw, suggesting that women should be forced into marriage is very Islamic coded.

 

[Banditotron]

Terrorist attacks like this will never result in women being subjugated because most of you are too cowardly and lazy to do anything besides vomit blackpill garbage on the internet.

Btw, suggesting that women should be forced into marriage is very Islamic coded.

I think terrorism to subjugate women is, like, the most accurate description of Islam there could be.

 

[Brenda Holiday]

if you knew a 40 year old man who had never been married or in a relationship of any sort to your knowledge, would you ask them to look after your kids?

This isn't a good question because my answer would be no, but I would hesitate to let anyone childless look after my kids. I know men who match or nearly match your description and are treated normally in the community, because they don't act weird about it. Society as a whole will always be judgemental of anyone who goes against societal norms, whatever that may be. How you react to it is what matters. Incels using it as an excuse or justification of their nasty personalities, hatred, and violence isn't acceptable and is most likely what is causing the (perceived or actual) mistreatment from society.

 

[JayseeDenton]

I NEED A WOMAN AND PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE TERRORISTS FOR DENYING THAT TO MEN LIKE ME.

>I NEED A MAN AND PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE TERRORISTS FOR DENYING THAT TO WOMEN LIKE ME.


Really think about what you are.

either he went out with a bang or he'd end up killing himself

You'd rather kill men for the crime of being sexless rather than forcing these evil whores to settle for average men.

everyone openly wants to kill and torture incels but it's suddenly news when one of ours kills someone.

Getting better means having the ability to have sex with a woman

Better to die a martyr for a hopeless cause retaliating against the evils of the world than to kill yourself alone like a cuckold.

You do understand that there are more than 2 things that can happen from any scenario right? Not everything is a dichotomy of maximalist extremes and that attitude is exactly the kind of things these forums make fun of so if you're going to be this way don't be surprised when you get called a spaz.

 

[Potion_Time]

but I would hesitate to let anyone childless look after my kids.

Would you? The vast majority of baby sitters are teenagers. So society would rather let a 17 year old girl look after young children than a 40 year old single man.

Hell, wouldn't you be immediately suspicious if a single man offered to look after you children in the first place? I know I would never allow it. And yes, it is absolutely a moral failing of the incel to blame society for their creepy aspergery nature.

 

[The_Cowcel]

I will die on the hill that a large majority of incels would benefit from swallowing their pride and losing their virginity to a hooker. Two things will click: One, they'll realize sex isn't as big of a deal as they made it out to be. Two, they'll realize despite no longer being a virgin their lives still suck. Hopefully some introspection will allow them to realize other factors are what are probably making their lives shitty and they'll work towards fixing that and in the process may fix other problems along the way as a consequence.

Been there, done that, still every bit as desperate for a woman as I was before I lost my virginity, there is no satisfaction to be had for overpaying to artificially achieve a milestone other men are able to reach naturally nor does it provide lasting female affection.

Society as a whole will always be judgemental of anyone who goes against societal norms,

But that's not even what incels are, we are trying to ACHIEVE societal norms all the while society is preventing us from reaching said goals.

ou contribute to society for your own sake. You're expected to have a job so you can feed and house yourself instead of expecting other adults to take care of you. I have no idea why incels think their wagie job is supposed to come with a boyfriend-free girl. Women manage to go to work every day without shooting up any schools or churches and not even the femcels are whining about how it's so unfair they're expected to pull their own weight without complimentary dick attached.

But if life is miserable and work is suffering then why even live? If we are suffering for reasons that are outside of our control and in the control of others then why should we be the only ones to die? The ability to get a woman it crucial to the ability to be fulfilled in life and without it we are socially crippled and looked down on everywhere we go, we can't even hide that we're incels because our desperation consumes everything else about us. We are tortured for the crime of being sexually unwanted by women who have nothing forcing them to settle. Women can't relate because even when they are single they aren't cut out of the gene pool because there's always a man willing to fuck them, the same can't be said for an incel who has spent most of his life focused on getting a woman and who has been alienated from his friends and family due to that desperation.

It's also worth noting the differences in the types of jobs men and women work, men work in fields with uncomfortable conditions, high work loads, and risks of injury and death, women get easy jobs where they basically just have to look pretty and do easy shit in an airconditioned buiding all the while making as much or more than men risking our lives which means that these sluts have no reason to settle for anything but the men they think they deserve because women aren't desperate for sex because they know they can get it if they just lower their standards.

Hell, wouldn't you be immediately suspicious if a single man offered to look after you children in the first place? I know I would never allow it. And yes, it is absolutely a moral failing of the incel to blame society for their creepy aspergery nature.

We're only "creepy" because we're sexually unwanted and can't get a woman. It's nothing to do with our behavior, our behavior is caused by sexual selection. Do you fucking know what it's like to spend most of your life obsessing over a goal that everyone around you seems to have achieved effortlessly yet which you can make no progress in? Do you know what it's like to be abandoned by all of your friends and cast out by your family just because you've had the audacity to beg for help and advice achieving this goal that everyone one of them had succeeded effortlessly? No you haven't.

 

[CharlesBarkley]

But if life is miserable and work is suffering then why even live?

I love this line of logic because the moment you guys get married, it will be ten million times worse for you, lmao. Grass is always greener, for sure.

Do you know what it's like to be abandoned by all of your friends and cast out by your family just because you've had the audacity to beg for help and advice achieving this goal that everyone one of them had succeeded effortlessly? No you haven't.

Nigga why are you begging your mom and dad for sex, lmao. Just like, act normal and not like a victim-minded nigger 24/7.