🐱 Deadly attack at Toronto erotic spa was incel terrorism

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A deadly attack at a Toronto erotic massage parlour three months ago is now being treated as an act of terrorism after police allegedly uncovered evidence it was inspired by misogynist incel ideology.

Charges against the suspect accused of carrying out the Feb. 24 stabbing attack, which killed a woman and injured another, were updated in court on Tuesday to “murder — terrorist activity.”

The suspect, who cannot be named because he is a minor, was already facing first-degree and attempted murder charges, but the development means police believe the incident was terrorism-related.

Global News has learned police are alleging the attack was inspired by the incel movement made up of men unable to attract sexual partners who promote violence against women on internet forums.

Experts said it was the first time a terrorism charge had been laid over violence tied to incels, a term that refers to self-described “involuntary celibates.”

It is also believed to be the first time Canada’s anti-terrorism laws have been used to prosecute an act of violence by a suspect who was not an Islamist extremist.



The incident points to the evolving threat posed by the incel movement, which a recent paper said was “flourishing, ideologically evolving, and continuing to threaten more … attacks.”

Almost 50 deaths in Canada and the United States have been linked to incels, leading to calls to treat their actions as a form of domestic terrorism.

Canadian authorities had been reluctant to make use of federal anti-terrorism laws following incidents such as the 2018 Toronto van attack, preferring to charge suspects with non-terrorism offences.

Although the van attack suspect Alek Minassian allegedly told police after ramming pedestrians on Toronto’s busy Yonge Street that he was part of an “incel rebellion,” he was not charged with terrorism.

Nor were Quebec mosque gunman Alexandre Bissonnette or Abdulahi Sharif, who targeted pedestrians and police with a van in Edmonton in 2017. Instead, they were charged with murder or attempted murder.

But the decision to prosecute the massage parlour attack as terrorism may signal a new approach by the authorities, a willingness to bring terrorism charges when warranted, and an acknowledgement that a broader range of groups are active in extremist violence.

The incident took place at the Crown Spa, which offers “sensual body rub” and “an exotic massage that will leave you feeling completely relaxed and spoiled senseless,” according to its website.


At around noon on Monday, Feb. 24, the owner said she heard screams coming from a back room. When she went to see what was happening, a man stabbed her with a machete.

She said she was able to wrestle the weapon from him and stab him in the back. Witnesses saw a bloodied woman and man emerge from the front door. The body of Ashley Noell Arzaga, 24, was found inside.

An injured teenager was arrested at the scene.


No motive was disclosed at the time but a source said the 17-year-old suspect indicated he was familiar with both the Toronto van attacker and the author of the incel “manifesto,” Elliot Rodger.

When Toronto police come across evidence a crime might be terrorism-related, they call in the RCMP-led Integrated National Security Enforcement Team (INSET).

The charge that resulted from the Toronto INSET investigation applies to cases where a murder has occurred during an act of terrorism.

“I think it’s a move in the right direction,” Prof. Colin Clarke, a senior research fellow at the U.S. terrorism think tank the Soufan Centre, said of the terrorism charge.

Incels have become a growing security concern.

Since the Toronto van killings two years ago, a handful of additional incel attacks have occurred, including at a Florida yoga studio in November 2018 and in Texas in June 2019.

Social media companies have responded by taking down online forums used by incels, while police have made arrests and paid closer attention to the misogynist extremist movement.

“What begins as a personal grievance due to perceived rejection by women may morph into allegiance to, and attempts to further, an incel rebellion,” a Texas Department of Public Safety report said in January.


“The result has thrust the incel movement into the realm of domestic terrorism.”

A California man described as an online incel promoter was arrested last month over an alleged harassment campaign against two teenage girls who had rejected his sexual advances.

“Incel ideology ranges from sad and self-loathing to the absolute hatred of women,” FBI special agent Marcus McCain wrote in an affidavit following the arrest of Carl Bennington, 33, adding some incels advocated for the legalization of rape and violence against women.

While Bennington was charged with cyberstalking, Clarke and other experts have been making the case that incel violence meets the definition of terrorism and should be treated accordingly.


“Some dispute that incel attacks qualify as terrorism because there is no realistic policy change that the movement is advocating, since their frustrations are merely a result of failed interpersonal relationships,” Clarke and Lilianna Turner wrote in Insights

“However, they do justify violence to assuage their grievances, their violence is ideological in nature, and they have attacked civilians in order to have a psychological impact on society, all classic hallmarks of terrorism.”

Incel violence is “indisputably terroristic in that it seeks to repress and subjugate women as part of the incels’ vision of a paternalistic, genderized society,” according to Bruce Hoffman and Jacob Ware of the Council on Foreign Relations.


“By advocating bloodshed as a means of broader societal intimidation, incel ideology conforms to the core definition of terrorism as violence designed to have far-reaching psychological effects,” they wrote.

As with some far-right and Islamist extremists, incels are challenging for police because they tend to act alone, lack ties to an organization and use readily-accessible weapons such as vehicles and knives.

But experts said action was needed.

“The violent manifestations of the ideology pose a new terrorism threat, which should not be dismissed or ignored by domestic law enforcement agencies,” according to a Studies in Conflict & Terrorism paper.
 
This is why we need another war tbh. Plenty of young guys that need to be thrown into a meat grinder.
doesn't work out that way.
in war the healthy, the strong and the courageous go to fight and die; while the sickly, the weak and the cowardly stay at home and live.
it wouldn't be a culling of the incels, it would be a culling of the chads.

@Grumpy so your idea is basically telling them "you're right, you're all doomed to stay alone forever, sucks to be you lmao" ? yeah i don't see that solving anything, you certainly won't convince anybody to not lash out that way lol
 
doesn't work out that way.
in war the healthy, the strong and the courageous go to fight and die; while the sickly, the weak and the cowardly stay at home and live.
it wouldn't be a culling of the incels, it would be a culling of the chads.

@Grumpy so your idea is basically telling them "you're right, you're all doomed to stay alone forever, sucks to be you lmao" ? yeah i don't see that solving anything, you certainly won't convince anybody to not lash out that way lol

Christ you're right gomen
 
doesn't work out that way.
in war the healthy, the strong and the courageous go to fight and die; while the sickly, the weak and the cowardly stay at home and live.
it wouldn't be a culling of the incels, it would be a culling of the chads.

@Grumpy so your idea is basically telling them "you're right, you're all doomed to stay alone forever, sucks to be you lmao" ? yeah i don't see that solving anything, you certainly won't convince anybody to not lash out that way lol

if chad dies, stacy has to settle for kevin
 
I know how I'm about to sound but this is always what rockets to my head on the subject of incels...

Honest to god. If these guys want to feel like a big strong manly caveman AND insult feminism, a womans autonomy on top of getting their dicks wet, why do they not just rape a woman? I mean think about it, these guys will go as far to murder women with a melee weapon or shoot/drive at crowds, why would plotting a rape be out of these guy's playbook? Hell, they could rape a woman, get away with it and then do it again to someone else. Pussy, violence and a personal insult to his victims sense of security/self? Sounds like something an incel would love. I have to assume these dudes are just that beta and/or lazy to plot such a thing.

I just dont get it. I suppose the fact that I am not unhinged or fucking stupid enough to get into an incel's mindset but when I think about one incident of mass violence that ends in either my death or incarceration, where even worse shit would be in store for me or a campaign of terror on the security of women, potentially lasting years before I would get caught, then jail and anal rape, I would at least attempt the latter. One ends with pee in the vagee first at least plus psychological validation.

Getting laid isn't a human right. Researchers have discovered that the number of mothers who successfully passed down their genes through human history have always outnumbered the fathers who successfully did the same, sometimes dramatically so. There are a lot of factors that play into this, but a woman's right to choose her partners obviously is a big one. It's in no way reasonable for a man who doesn't get lucky to go on a killing spree.
That's a point that always gets brought up but I really dont think hammering that point is going to stop anyone. Non-incels understand that but remember that entitlement and jealousy are the biggest factors here. If an adult woman were to tell them that, their response would be "Yeah, easy for you to say. You can get all the sex you want. It's easy to say that you dont need something when you already have it". If a even moderately attractive man said the same, they would just call him a Chad that doesnt understand the depth of his loneliness.

Also, let's face it, women being able to choose their partner isnt a universal right either if the woman is unable to fight off a rapist. Before access to legal abortion, they may not even be able to choose whether to carry a pregnancy to term or not, not without risk.

I guess all I'm saying is trying to appeal to an incel's sense of right or wrong as dictated by societal norms is not going to work. A ton, if not all, incels are alt-right larpers as well, globally enforced ethic standards are not their cup o' tea.
 
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To be fair, it is not like 100% about sex. They don’t just want a fuck, they want someone to *want* to fuck them. The married red pill (kek) and dead bedrooms crowds are full of this shit about “authentic desire”. There is this thing that seems to have caught on on the manosphere and it’s fringes that sex for duty/money/because she basically has to is not acceptable or satisfying, she has to actually be hotter than a dragon for your peepee.

Idgi, but that’s probably because I’m a chick. Anyway. This is also true of the incels. The pure transactional element of buying a hooker seems to reinforce how undesirable they are and kick them in their self esteem some more.

The problem is that there really isn’t a lid for every jar and some people are gonna die alone.
Do you mean this in that they want companionship and a deeper emotional connection, or they think women should be throwing themselves at their feet? The only incel I know about is Elliot Rogers and he seemed like a pompous asshole who though women should be tripping over themselves to mount him. If it's the former, that's really sad and I kinda feel sorry for them.

if chad dies, stacy has to settle for kevin
Or, she always has Spot.
 
The guy is a minor. How can you possibly be an incel as a minor? The more articles like these I see, the more I think there's a politically motivated push to label any random attack as "incel terrorism", and I'd love to know who is behind this. What's even the endgame?
 
I hadn't really thought about it from that perspective. I still think getting them to focus their energy elsewhere, like on being a productive and well liked bachelor, is better than what society is trying right now. The vitriol is only making them feel justified in their unhealthy obsession with sex and their lashing out over not having it.
 
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