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DC Comics Multimedia General - A crisis of infinite fuck ups
I meant Bruce. It feels like they've just gutted the entire premise of Batman because being rich and having a manor and a butler is problematic and they don't want him working with the police.
I meant Bruce. It feels like they've just gutted the entire premise of Batman because being rich and having a manor and a butler is problematic and they don't want him working with the police.
Well duh, it's Current Year for half a decade and counting, and it's as annoying as you think. Bats also had one writer make Bruce state that perps burning down business locales isn't a problem because the owners can get the insurance. Batman would never say that (or let go obvious criminals).
Also, that statement of yours applies twice because Absolute Batman is also that.
Carnage is white so as long as you make him an ICE agent and have him murdering black people because Trump told him to he is still allowed to be pure evil.
I feel like post-Rebirth was finally the Death of Continuity for DC, something happened after that period ended where it feels like the company finally threw its hands up over all the aging heroes, timeline issues, revivals, etc. and did "do whatever you like as long as it's (supposedly) good, guys." Like to me there's not even an illusion of continuity they're trying to peddle like in previous eras.
In that specific case it's just funny that they purposefully designed a story to be a continuation of a popular older series and then just broke continuity with like three random panels that are so unimportant you could just remove them.
Well duh, it's Current Year for half a decade and counting, and it's as annoying as you think. Bats also had one writer make Bruce state that perps burning down business locales isn't a problem because the owners can get the insurance. Batman would never say that (or let go obvious criminals).
Also, that statement of yours applies twice because Absolute Batman is also that.
It's part of his nefarious plans or something.
Changing topic: I wonder if someone like Carnage could be used nowadays. Dude was pure, unadulterated chaotic evil, and woketards don't like that.
I always took him that way as well, and I like the guy. Though I always thought he had more narrative meat on him than, say, Doomsday did... but then again DC'll do anything and everything to turn Bat-villains into recurring ones with unique gimmicks while leaving most Super-villains in the dust, so I'm pretty happy seeing people around here develop concepts for Doomie.
My solution to Doomsday would be simple, have the original, keep him and Death of Superman the same, it works as a Hydra/Minotaur/Nemean Lion for Clark’s myth.
Just don’t have it get up, it’s dead for good but it leaves behind a billion dollar carcass that Star Labs immediately chops up. Some pieces get misplaced.
Then take the idea from Rebirth with Bizarros sold as bioweapons. These flawed recreation Doomsdays aren’t as tough as the OG but they give Amazo a run for its money and introduce a new criminal enterprise for street heroes to combat. This also canonizes every cool variant Doomsday design as a variant and lets you get your hype fights with little consequence long-term.
But you still need “the” Doomsday , the slot in Superman’s rogues. So you take an often forgotten villian and upgrade them, because Doomsday was always a way to get a Hulk as a Superman foe, so take it to the next level.
Bruno Mannheim, Intergang is already selling Doomsday clones in this hypothetical. The purest, as close to the original version of the Doomsday virus, he takes it. Boom, he gets an alternate form, the Hulk homage is preserved and you get two for the price of one. Bruno also gets a bit of Norman Osborn (Ultimate) in him to add more to a pretty forgettable villian and that trend I love of a character’s rogues degenerating over the career is present.
Superman’s sacrifice is preserved, Doomsday was destroyed but you still get the monster.
A teenage girl with the powers and legacy of Superman should be a money-printing concept, but somehow DC and James Gunn managed to fuck it up. Hell, she should be a character women could love; unlike Captain Marvel, who was astroturfed to hell, she is young, feminine, and actually meant to be attractive.
Supergirl has been since around World War II, yet in my opinion, she has only been done correctly three times. Not even in the comics—I gave her latest run a chance and gave up, as it felt like it was written for Tumblr and somehow managed to make her boring.
MAWS, DC Super Hero Girls, and the DCAU are the only times I have seen people unironically loving her for her.
I think she works at her best as a rebellious teenager trying to live up to the idea of Superman, instead of an annoying girlboss (Gunn's version) or, worse, a Clark clone (CW).
It's frankly amazing that DC has kept Alfred dead for almost a decade at this point since you rarely see any kind of lasting consequences in modern Batman stories.
Wanda's "No More Mutants" wish was the status quo for the 616 Marvel Universe for nearly 20 years, after which the company quickly forgot the plot point until Avengers vs X-men happened.
Speaking of which. I find it interesting that the DC animated movie universe established a relationship between Damian and Raven ten years ago, yet there has been little to no development of that dynamic in the comics since then.
Speaking of which. I find it interesting that the DC animated movie universe established a relationship between Damian and Raven ten years ago, yet there has been little to no development of that dynamic in the comics since then.
Speaking of which. I find it interesting that the DC animated movie universe established a relationship between Damian and Raven ten years ago, yet there has been little to no development of that dynamic in the comics since then.
Because people want Raven to be with BB. I understand why: BB is a golden retriever in a (sometimes) human body. Damian is as brooding as Raven. I can see what would attract her to both but I find BB far less likely to let someone wallow in self-pity.
It's James Gunns gay Green Lamterns show that is clearly going to focus on a random female sherriff solving a murder in a small town and have nothing to do with the Green Lanterns.
CBR hasn't even seen the show and they are declaring it the best thing ever.
The DC Animated Movie Universe and the Tomorrowverse have been mixed bags for me.
The DCAMU, I think, has by far the best DC look in animation. There’s a reason Phil Bourassa’s style became the standard. But they really started off on the wrong foot by basically adapting the New 52 before quietly backtracking on a lot of it. They introduced an arrogant jock Superman, only to silently retcon him back into the classic boy scout version later on.
There was still a lot to like, and there are honorable exceptions like Constantine, but most of the time it felt like you were getting weaker versions of previous adaptations rather than something that truly stood on its own.
Some people wrongfully assume Young Justice is set in this universe, and honestly, if it had been, it probably would have rivaled the DCAU. But it wasn’t.
Their Teen Titans never escaped the shadow of the 2006 series, they had one of the worst versions of Shazam, an out-of-character Hal Jordan, etc. I’d even argue Batman carried most of this universe, since most of its strongest moments revolved around him or his supporting characters. Including that flash time travel movie.
Killing all their heroes in a single movie was certainly a choice, but for me it mostly highlighted how little attachment I had to these versions of the characters. Beyond the prettier animation, for a whole universe, really I really only miss a handful.
With the Tomorrowverse, I appreciate that they mostly tried to stay closer to the classic heroes. But aside from a few exceptions, I couldn’t shake the feeling that most of the characters felt bland. They were fine, but very little truly stood out.
And I’ll address the elephant in the room: the art style was a massive downgrade. It’s clean, but also very flat and lifeless, almost like Flash animation. I do give them credit for avoiding constant rehashes and trying new ideas, like the alternate-universe World War II setting with Flash.
Still, they somehow managed to make Crisis on Infinite Earths — THE comic event — feel mid at best. The fact that most people only cared about the classic cameos, like Kevin Conroy’s Batman, while barely anyone cared about losing the Tomorrowverse characters as the universe rebooted yet again, says everything about how forgettable the whole thing ended up being.
It's been loosely adapted like three or four times I think? None of them are good and none of them acknowledge each other. Apparently there are an infinite number of infinite multiverses that can all individually collapse so I guess my headcanon is as valid as any nonsense DC officially acknowledges.
I think hardly any of DC's post-DCAU DTVs are any good at all. Crisis on Two Worlds and Gods & Monsters were good, but CoTW was an unused DCAU script that was on ice for years. Invincible's unironically better despite all the stuff people complain about.
With the Tomorrowverse, I appreciate that they mostly tried to stay closer to the classic heroes. But aside from a few exceptions, I couldn’t shake the feeling that most of the characters felt bland. They were fine, but very little truly stood out
It never truly got a chance. Gunn capped it the second he stepped in, so tons of it was rushed and incomplete. It is the reason Crisis was such a mess, they had to kill off the universe way too early. The sad part is, it was fairly likeable. They had a good Superman going, a good Supergirl, and a good Batman, they just never got a true finish.
I actually like it better TBH. Has a more American feel and doesn't have as many odd designs where characters look roided out with small faces or very gross anime face. Sure, it is basically Archer, but the characters look significantly more stylized and traditional. Helps the female designs are cuter:
If only we got a Teen Titans in this style, I think getting a traditional/03 hybrid of Raven and Star would look great in this artstyle.
