Honestly the part I think is the most pathetic is that you claim to have been using the site since 2015 and still don't know how to embed a YouTube video
It is often said that a man who asks for help and receives none has at least learned who his friends are. I have learned something far more valuable...that I have no friends. This is a tremendous spiritual advantage, and I commend it to all of you.
The moderator informs me that you are not my personal army. Very well. I did not ask for an army. I asked for a mild and passing curiosity in a matter of state-sanctioned killing, which is apparently less interesting to this forum than whether my account was created in 2015 or 2024. I confess I cannot embed a YouTube video. I also cannot embed a corpse in the ground without someone noticing, which puts me at a considerable disadvantage against the Canadian government.
I have been told that my thread is unwelcome, my formatting is atrocious, and my instincts are paranoid. Allow me to address these charges in reverse order, since the last is the only one that matters and the first two are obviously true.
A man who applies to become a hangman may be a perfectly sober civil servant. He may also be something else entirely. The remarkable thing is not that we should wonder which but that we have decided it is impolite to ask. We have constructed an entire profession around the act of killing people and then insisted that scrutinizing the professionals is in poor taste, like asking a chef whether he enjoys the screaming of lobsters.
I am told these are compassionate physicians easing suffering. Very well. Then they will not mind being looked at. The surgeon does not object to the gallery. The teacher does not object to the inspector. Only the man who kills for the state, it seems, must be wrapped in a sacred privacy, as though he were performing something too holy for observation rather than something too horrible for it.
Every profession which involves power over the helpless attracts two kinds of people. Either the genuine saint or the genuine devil, with precious little in between and no reliable way to tell them apart at the interview. We have learned this lesson with every other institution and have pretended to forget it with this one, because this institution comes with a clipboard and a lethal injection and the imprimatur of Parliament, and we are all terribly modern now.
The man who
volunteers to kill the sick is not necessarily wicked. But he is necessarily interesting. And the Forum that refuses to find him interesting is necessarily retarded.
Several of you have again suggested I apply for the program myself. I congratulate you on having exactly one joke between you, like a single pair of trousers shared among an entire orphanage. It does not fit any of you particularly well, but you each take your turn in it with great confidence.
I shall now make the case for this thread's existence, which I understand is rather like making the case for oxygen to a room full of men who have been holding their breath out of spite.
This forum exists because polite society decided certain people were beyond examination. You have built an entire cathedral here on the principle that public figures who behave grotesquely in public deserve public commentary, and that the refusal of every respectable institution to provide that commentary does not make the commentary unnecessary but rather makes the institutions contemptible. You did not need permission from The Guardian to document Chris Chan. You did not petition the ethics board before observing that a certain individual's internet conduct warranted a thread longer than most Russian novels. The whole premise of this wretched place is that when no one else will watch, you will.
And now I come to you with a person who has been granted the literal power of life and death over the vulnerable, who operates within a system that has killed more of its own citizens than most wars Canadians have participated in, and your response is "we are not your personal army." You will forgive me if I find this somewhat selective.
You will build a 10000 page thread on Ethan Ralph. You will construct an investigative dossier on a furry who defrauds people of digital artwork commissions. You will dedicate years of collective labor to documenting someone whose primary crime is being annoying on a livestream. But a person who professionally administers death to the desperate, this, apparently, is beneath your interest. The man who scams you out of forty dollars for a cartoon fox is a lolcow. The man who kills your grandmother with a needle and a pamphlet is simply doing his job.
I do not ask you to agree with me about euthanasia. I ask you to apply your own standards consistently, which I understand is the one thing no internet forum has ever done in the history of the internet.
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Anywho, back to the subject of the thread:
This is about Dr. Ellen Wiebe, a Vancouver-based physician and one of Canada's most prolific MAiD (Medical Assistance in Dying) providers. They have been reportedly involved in over 400 assisted deaths according to a BBC documentary. She has openly acknowledged that there are situations where she finds someone eligible when another provider would not, owing to how the law is written.
Several high-profile complaints have accumulated around her practice, and I think they raise important questions regardless of where you stand on MAiD. Mainly because Dr. Wiebe has declined to comment on the recent cases, they are beyond scrutiny in the public forum, and this forum (apparently)
1. The Wrongful Death Lawsuit (Filed December 2024)
This is the most serious active case. A 52-year-old businessman and father of three received MAiD in December 2022 while on a
day pass from the psychiatric ward at St. Paul's Hospital in Vancouver. His family has now filed a notice of civil claim at the B.C. Supreme Court accusing Dr. Wiebe and her clinic of malpractice, seeking damages for wrongful death and a declaration that the man's Charter rights were violated.
Key details from the filing:
- The man had been formally diagnosed with bipolar disorder in 2013 and also suffered from chronic back pain
- His family alleges his pain was neither grievous nor incurable enough to qualify for MAiD
- He had initially sought and received approval for MAiD but then changed course, choosing to pursue treatment and rehabilitation instead
- His family subsequently obtained a court order under the Mental Health Act to commit him to the psychiatric ward
- He left on a day pass and received the procedure
The case also mounts a broader constitutional challenge to Canada's MAiD framework.
Sources: Vancouver Sun |
CTV News |
Times Colonist
2. The Court-Ordered Injunction (October 2024)
In a separate case, a B.C. Supreme Court judge granted an
urgent injunction halting an assisted death just one day before Dr. Wiebe was scheduled to carry it out. The patient was a 53-year-old Alberta woman whose common-law partner brought the application.
What the court filing alleges:
- After being denied MAiD by her own doctors in Alberta, the woman found Dr. Wiebe online
- Wiebe approved MAiD after her first meeting with the woman, without consulting the patient's treating physicians
- Wiebe relied solely on information provided by the patient
- The woman could not find an independent witness or a second assessor, so Wiebe's own clinic provided both
Justice Simon Coval described the situation as one of extreme irreparable harm and found there was an arguable case about whether MAiD criteria had been properly followed. The judge's ruling noted that the woman appeared to have a mental health condition with no physical ailment — and MAiD for mental illness as a sole condition remains ineligible under Canadian law until at least March 2027.
Sources: Global News |
CBC News |
CityNews
3. The Louis Brier Jewish Home Incident (2017–2019)
This is an older and widely reported case. Dr. Wiebe entered the Louis Brier Home and Hospital — an Orthodox Jewish long-term care facility in Vancouver — to provide MAiD to 83-year-old resident Barry Hyman, who had lung cancer and the effects of a stroke.
The home's CEO David Keselman had previously told the family that assisted dying was against the facility's policy, formulated in accordance with Orthodox Jewish law. Wiebe attended the facility
after hours at the family's invitation and performed the procedure
without the knowledge or consent of the care home's administration.
Louis Brier accused her of "borderline unethical conduct" and filed a formal complaint with the College of Physicians and Surgeons of British Columbia. Keselman expressed particular concern about the impact on Holocaust survivors living in the facility, describing significant anxiety and chaos among residents.
However, in July 2019 the College
dismissed the complaint, concluding that Wiebe had met all requirements for the provision of MAiD and that the patient had consented.
Sources: Globe and Mail |
Times Colonist |
CMAJ Blogs
4. Broader Professional and Ethical Critiques
Beyond these individual cases, investigative reporting by Alexander Raikin in
The New Atlantis drew attention to a case Dr. Wiebe discussed at a MAiD providers' conference. In that case, assessors had found a male patient ineligible because he was not seriously ill and lacked capacity to make informed decisions. Dying With Dignity Canada then connected the man with Wiebe, who assessed him virtually, found him eligible, arranged a second assessor, picked him up at the airport, and provided MAiD at her clinic.
Critics describe this pattern as "doctor shopping" . Where patients turned down by one set of clinicians are connected with more permissive providers.
In early 2025, the Euthanasia Prevention Coalition launched a formal petition to the BC Minister of Health and the College of Physicians and Surgeons calling for an investigation into Dr. Wiebe's practice and a temporary suspension of her medical licence pending its conclusion.
Sources: The New Atlantis |
Western Standard |
Euthanasia Prevention Coalition | Court filings via
CSO B.C.
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I do not expect this thread to survive. A thread about a woman who has ended more lives than most of the people documented on this forum have ruined is, I am assured, not sufficiently entertaining. She has merely been caught killing a man on a day pass from a psychiatric ward, which is apparently the sort of thing that happens to anyone and is no basis for speculation. You have, at last, found the one human activity you consider too respectable to examine, and it is homicide. I congratulate you. It takes real effort to be that consistent in your inconsistency. If this thread dies, it will not be because the subject was unworthy. It will be because the subject was too worthy, and that made everyone here uncomfortable, because it is considerably easier to laugh at a degenerate than to look directly at something that might actually matter.
I remain, unfortunately, correct.
