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Creepy Unsolved Mysteries - From unsolved murders to unidentified people to unexplained supernatural events, what are some of the creepiest unsolved mysteries you've ever heard of?
Terry Hobbs' DNA wasn't found at the crime scene; a hair that he could not be excluded from was uncovered, but that particular allele he had is also found in millions of other Americans. I did a short post on the 2011 DNA in the WM3 case here: Post in thread 'Creepy Unsolved Mysteries'
I read that it was found on the shoelace that was on one of the kids to tie them up.
He still seems like the killer to me. And I do believe he molested the boy and the other siblings.
The guy has always creeped me out and a lot of his behavior is what makes me think he did it.
I suppose the way people used to react to weird looking people (rock fans or heavy metal fans) back then, also makes me wonder. Because people immediately thought it was evil, really makes me side eye the public. (Even though Damien was cringey.) I remember those times and people overreacted way too much.
Not even he bothered to back up her story, and they were divorced shortly after. She claimed all kinds of bullshit during the divorce.
I have sympathy for her going nuts, I'd certainly do the same thing if one of my kids disappeared. But I wouldn't make up silly stories about it. At least, I hope not.
I'll link this documentary I watched that was really good! The most likely theory is that some pedophile that worked at the Des Moines Register most likely did it. Think about it--there's plenty of places in Iowa to dump a body. Yeah Des Moines is the capital but it doesn't take long for the perp to drive out onto a back road near some forest or a field, dump a body and bounce. https://youtube.com/watch?v=MLRL_oowQ48He wasn't the only paper boy in the city to go missing either. It's disturbing to realize just how little child predation was punished as recently as the 1980's. The US sex offender registry isn't even fifty years old. It's absolutely possible some pedophile who worked for the paper, who assigned routes knew when to take advantage of one of these kids. Only thing his family can hope for is that Johnny's remains are somehow found. At this point though I highly doubt that will happen.
I'd like to point out while it's on topic that this is not only typical for but outright actively encouraged in a divorce by most divorce lawyers as it increases the chances in a custody battle. Anything said by someone going through a divorce about their soon to be ex spouse should never be taken at face value.
The fact that she was going through a divorce and simultaneously having her sanity unwind means I'm hesitant to believe much of anything she says even more than usual.
Not even he bothered to back up her story, and they were divorced shortly after. She claimed all kinds of bullshit during the divorce.
I have sympathy for her going nuts, I'd certainly do the same thing if one of my kids disappeared. But I wouldn't make up silly stories about it. At least, I hope not.
Fathers are often left out of true crime stories. Seemingly not much sympathy for them from the public since 99% of the time in comment sections it's always "I BET THE FATHER DID IT!" even when there's no cause to believe he did.
This isn't a snide shot at you believing the step-father to be guilty in the Memphis 3 case btw.
Fathers are often left out of true crime stories. Seemingly not much sympathy for them from the public since 99% of the time in comment sections it's always "I BET THE FATHER DID IT!" even when there's no cause to believe he did.
This isn't a snide shot at you believing the step-father to be guilty in the Memphis 3 case btw.
Yeah, I get it. Like I said. I'm torn on that case because all four of them seem suspicious, but since there's not much to go on to say who actually did it, it's frustrating.
I feel bad for Johnny's dad. He has to deal with the loss of his child plus on top of it, his ex-wife dragging him the way she did when they divorced. I can't imagine how painful that would be.
I'm not super familiar with the case, but I'm curious what leads you to think that. It seems to be one of those 'Burke did it', sort of broadly accepted truths.
Well, the "there was piss in the kids' stomachs" thing wasn't true. What I think is that the WM3 didn't rape or murder those boys. I don't know about anything else because there's clearly a whole wacky web of yokel hijinks surrounding all this.
Yeah, I get it. Like I said. I'm torn on that case because all four of them seem suspicious, but since there's not much to go on to say who actually did it, it's frustrating.
I feel bad for Johnny's dad. He has to deal with the loss of his child plus on top of it, his ex-wife dragging him the way she did when they divorced. I can't imagine how painful that would be.
Well, the "there was piss in the kids' stomachs" thing wasn't true. What I think is that the WM3 didn't rape or murder those boys. I don't know about anything else because there's clearly a whole wacky web of yokel hijinks surrounding all this.
I said that back then a lot of people tended to overreact if you were a heavy metal fan or even a punker. Think about the whole satanic thing that went on back then. Like the Judas Priest case where they tried to go after the band because subliminal music caused a fan to kill himself. In moments like that, it was overreacting and panicking. Man, even in my youth there was panic in appearance. Like after Columbine. Anyone in a trench coat and black got stared at or judged.
That said- Damien came off as some edgy psycho who had no conscience. And from what is said, it sounds like he kind of still is.
Fathers are often left out of true crime stories. Seemingly not much sympathy for them from the public since 99% of the time in comment sections it's always "I BET THE FATHER DID IT!" even when there's no cause to believe he did.
This isn't a snide shot at you believing the step-father to be guilty in the Memphis 3 case btw.
Johnny's parents had been divorced once before marrying each other and having him. Each parent had kids from prior marriages too who I feel so sorry for. Imagine your mother never being able to handle the grief of your half sibling being abducted? Probably built some resentment over time.
Each parent had kids from prior marriages too who I feel so sorry for. Imagine your mother never being able to handle the grief of your half sibling being abducted? Probably built some resentment over time.
Not that I can talk about it here because the case was solved, but this reminds me of the Shanda Sharer story. (One of the most fucked up murders I've ever read about, my god.) Her sisters had to deal with her death along with Shanda's parents. They don't really talk about what the siblings go through.
Like it's one of those things where it pretty obvious that it's always been happening but something about the 80's is what made us actually start to notice
The late 70s and early 80s were a remarkable time in terms of the advancement of children's rights and America's collective understanding that children were in need of protection. The 70s saw child pornography being made illegal at the federal level, the expansion of Child Protective Services, the enactment of the Education for Handicapped Children Act. The 80s saw the adoption of the Child Protection Act, child support was expanded with the Enforcement Amendments, adoption and family services were re-hauled, school breakfasts and lunches were introduced in many places across the nation as childhood nutrition was taken more seriously.
Children went from being seen as legal dependents of their parents to full-fledged individuals, with real rights and legal protections in place to keep them safe and healthy.
Like mentioned up thread, I think that the 24-hour news cycle really contributed to a new understanding in the masses of the dangers that children faced, but I don't think it was the only factor. The general social malaise that the country experienced during that era, the rise in incarcerations, the drug epidemics, the advancement of pediatric psychiatry and a bunch of other sociological factors played into it too.
I grabbed it from YouTube and included a link in the works cited tab. It was not an easy watch, particularly when covering the last year of his life. I spoilered a picture of him and his partner in the post, with Monette either on the verge of death or actually dead.
I found it interesting, though not surprising, there was no mention of Tony.
While I don't believe Monette wrote the memoir, I do wonder how much he helped shape it. I haven't been able to find much else of Tony's writing, but the scraps I have - a few blog posts, an essay for a magazine - never had that level of sophistication.
Which is not to say Tony's memoir is high art, but it is a much more complex, polished document than I think anyone ever gives it credit for.
If you're looking for good "factual" accounts of Satanism, any and all of Michael Warnke's books are good for a laugh. Guy was so bad at it, a Christian magazine wrote a big take-down article on his many frauds and lies.
It’s February 8th, 2017, 80 year old semi-retired teacher Barbara Nave returns to her home on Tondaleia Drive off U.S. 521 in Sumter, South Carolina after having visited her son in Savannah, Georgia. She’s last seen by a neighbour looking for one of her three Lhasa Apsos. Barbara lives on a 20-acre property that is wooded and backs onto a swamp. The dog has apparently run off into the woods at least in most accounts. NamUs reports that Barbara actually had a fourth dog, but it had been killed in an animal attack, and that she was attempting to locate whichever creature killed it. This is not repeated in other coverage. The next day, she emails a friend, calls her son, and calls a contractor she is hiring to do some work on her home.
On February 13th, Barbara’s friend, Kathleen, is concerned that she cannot get a hold of Barbara. Kathleen drives to Barbara’s house and finds the front door wide open. Two of the Lhasa Apsos are hungry and severely dehydrated while the third is dead. The dog had been ill and was unable to survive days without water. All of Barbara’s things are in the house. Her purse is on the kitchen counter, though some sources claim it was on the floor near the front door. Her phone is there, her keys are there, all of her credit cards are there, her car is there. There’s nothing unusual about the house other than that Barbara isn’t there. No signs of foul play. Nothing out of place. Kathleen calls the Sumter County Sheriff's Department.
The Sumter County Sheriff's Department launches an immediate comprehensive investigation. They canvass the neighbourhood questioning neighbours. They send search and rescue parties through the woods and swamp. This includes divers, equestrians, scent tracking dogs, cadaver dogs, and helicopters. When the cadaver dogs alert on a particular part of the swamp, they drain it when divers are unable to find the source of the scent. It’s a dead deer. All the while, investigators interview and polygraph all of Barbara’s friends and relatives. Everyone passes. Nothing suspicious is found. The contractor is reported to have been cleared as well.
Searches of the property and surrounding area have continued over the last nine years. Nothing has ever been found.
