Cowboy Bebop Thread - Live-Action Adaptation cancelled after one season (it was shit)

[Jonah Hill poster]

Cho sounded like he skimmed through the anime in an afternoon while looking at his phone

Well, in that case, he should have paid attention to David Lynch:

 

[StarkRavingMad]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=IhqDn68W47EI'll give Cho some props for being a professional and not running his mouth off like the Faye ho, but this interview raises a lot of red flags.

He talks about Bebop like its a pure comedy and keeps describing it as "weird" and "strange", when its one of the most relatables animes for a western audience. Of course you have some out there episodes, but overall I'd say bebop is very grounded.

When asked what his favorite episode he can't even say one, he cops out saying hes got a couple of favorite moments, which really sounds like he just said the only things he remembered. "The shower scene with the hermaphrodite and the time they spent 8 minutes looking for a Betamax".

Nigga watched Speak Like a Child and the thing he remembers the most about it is the Betamax treasure hunt?

lol dude mentioned Gren just to virtue signal. GTFOutta here with that, Cho. I can kind of respect the "I'm just here for the paycheck" vibes I'm getting from him, though.

And to the morons who glorify Gren's altered body as this "super progressive" thing: You weren't paying ANY attention to his episodes. He grew breasts because the poor man was experimented on with addictive drugs. He didn't want his body to end up the way it did.

 

[SteelPlatedHeart]

Hoo boy…

 

[Kane Lives]

Hoo boy…
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This article title alone checks all the typical journoscum boxes of being a shit ragpiece.

 

[Kaktus Kompot]

Man, seeing such resurgence of liveaction adaptations of great animated works just makes me more disappointed than anything. If you think about it, it's probably the perfect corporate product - you already have a complete script and established prominence and recognition. And since most people still view the field of animation, including anime, as some kiddie scribbles, you can make more cash pushing your little product as some "proper", "mature" work. Inject some of your agenda, sprinkle a bit of controversy for publicity and then collect your check and get prepared to regurgitate another beloved work. I'm not even gonna hatewatch this show because the original Cowboy Bebop has sertain sentimental value to me and it's not as funny seeing a person fall over when it's somebody you like.

 

[ロボ﹏§¤r﹏h¶rœ]

Maybe unrelated and shameless Gundam shilling, but somebody made a Gundam Thunderbolt AMV to Tank!.

 

[Commander X]

Hoo boy…
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That's what actually makes me really irritated with the attitudes of people about directly adapting or "localizing" works from say, Japan. All of these losers think they're actually making the original better, or a superior version of the original, when they are trying to fix something that is not broken.

 

[PS1gamenwatch]

That's what actually makes me really irritated with the attitudes of people about directly adapting or "localizing" works from say, Japan. All of these losers think they're actually making the original better, or a superior version of the original, when they are trying to fix something that is not broken.

That’s what the makers of ID4 said when they were making Godzilla 98. At least Emmerich downright admitting he wasn’t a fan and kept declining to make one.

 

[Jonah Hill poster]

Hoo boy…
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It almost sounds like a random phrase generator created by A.I. every time they say “AND WHY THAT’S A GOOD THING”

 

[Grand Wizard Wakka]

Its funny how the people behind these Westernized reboots are the woke types who are SO against "Western Cultural Imperialism" and against "Cultural Appropriation" yet steal things from other cultures and try to force their values and their culture on other cultures.

 

[Dr. Pasquale]

https://screenrant.com/cowboy-bebop-netflix-adaptation-anime-different-how/

Cowboy Bebop Show Isn’t Trying to Be a Direct Adaptation of the Anime​

Netflix's upcoming live-action adaptation of the acclaimed anime series Cowboy Bebop might not actually be as much of an adaptation as was once thought. The original series, which is the brainchild of industry legend Shinichiro Watanabe, originally aired in 1998 and has since remained a cultural touchstone in the world of Japanese animation. A live-action adaptation of the show has always been a topic of discussion within the fandom and will finally come to fruition this November when the series releases on Netflix.

What sets the original show apart from other similar caliber anime of the era is its bombastic big band score. Thanks to the popularity of Cowboy Bebop and Samurai Champloo, Watanabe has earned a reputation for utilizing unorthodox soundtracks that rely on jazz and hip hop styles over the typical orchestral style. When Netflix announced their live-action reimagining with composer Yoko Kanno returning to score, many fans assumed that the streamer's series would lazily retread material from the original show. These worries aren't totally unfounded considering the fact that Hollywood has consistently struggled to adapt anime into a live-action cinematic medium for decades. Fortunately, Netflix's series will forge its own path with entirely new adventures set in the familiar world.

In a recent interview with Polygon, showrunner André Nemec says that the show's storylines will be self-contained. However, "while no one episode of the anime may get a direct adaptation," Nemec insists that each episode will "nod to the anime in subtle ways." Check out the full excerpt below:

And while no one episode of the anime may get a direct adaptation, Nemec and his team spent time drawing up lists of their favorites, then considering how they could “build out the continuing stories of Spike Spiegel and Jet Black and Faye Valentine while also mining their past stories from the anime” He says every episode of the Netflix series will nod to the anime in subtle ways, be it through props, names, or visual references to Sunrise’s original animation. “I would challenge almost any superfan on this show to see if they can find [all the references] in the frame,” Nemec says. He adds that the original Japanese and English voice actors will also be “properly homaged.”

Nemec's clarification will hopefully assuage some fans' concerns. The most common pitfall that unsuccessful anime adaptations (like Ghost in the Shell and Dragonball Evolution) succumb to is in superficially rehashing the original storyline while prioritizing spectacle over depth. If Nemec's comments are to be believed, Netflix's adaptation will sidestep these issues by featuring all new stories. This will give the writers an opportunity to naturally flesh out their characters without the added pressure of hitting iconic benchmark scenes and moments that take place within the original anime. Comparisons between the two versions are inevitable, but at least the stories will be judged on their own merits.

tl;dr the backstories are probably the only things that'll be 1-to-1 with the anime, if even that. All the individual episodes and storylines will be "brand new", which in this context means "shit". They havent said anything concrete about the show's format, if its going to be episodic or a season long plotline, but the fact the showrunner guy used the word continuous to describe the plot makes me think it'll be the latter

 

[StarkRavingMad]

https://screenrant.com/cowboy-bebop-netflix-adaptation-anime-different-how/

Cowboy Bebop Show Isn’t Trying to Be a Direct Adaptation of the Anime​

Netflix's upcoming live-action adaptation of the acclaimed anime series Cowboy Bebop might not actually be as much of an adaptation as was once thought. The original series, which is the brainchild of industry legend Shinichiro Watanabe, originally aired in 1998 and has since remained a cultural touchstone in the world of Japanese animation. A live-action adaptation of the show has always been a topic of discussion within the fandom and will finally come to fruition this November when the series releases on Netflix.

What sets the original show apart from other similar caliber anime of the era is its bombastic big band score. Thanks to the popularity of Cowboy Bebop and Samurai Champloo, Watanabe has earned a reputation for utilizing unorthodox soundtracks that rely on jazz and hip hop styles over the typical orchestral style. When Netflix announced their live-action reimagining with composer Yoko Kanno returning to score, many fans assumed that the streamer's series would lazily retread material from the original show. These worries aren't totally unfounded considering the fact that Hollywood has consistently struggled to adapt anime into a live-action cinematic medium for decades. Fortunately, Netflix's series will forge its own path with entirely new adventures set in the familiar world.

In a recent interview with Polygon, showrunner André Nemec says that the show's storylines will be self-contained. However, "while no one episode of the anime may get a direct adaptation," Nemec insists that each episode will "nod to the anime in subtle ways." Check out the full excerpt below:



Nemec's clarification will hopefully assuage some fans' concerns. The most common pitfall that unsuccessful anime adaptations (like Ghost in the Shell and Dragonball Evolution) succumb to is in superficially rehashing the original storyline while prioritizing spectacle over depth. If Nemec's comments are to be believed, Netflix's adaptation will sidestep these issues by featuring all new stories. This will give the writers an opportunity to naturally flesh out their characters without the added pressure of hitting iconic benchmark scenes and moments that take place within the original anime. Comparisons between the two versions are inevitable, but at least the stories will be judged on their own merits.

tl;dr the backstories are probably the only things that'll be 1-to-1 with the anime, if even that. All the individual episodes and storylines will be "brand new", which in this context means "shit". They havent said anything concrete about the show's format, if its going to be episodic or a season long plotline, but the fact the showrunner guy used the word continuous to describe the plot makes me think it'll be the latter

With articles like this, it's almost like everyone knows that this show is dead on arrival.

 

[Grand Wizard Wakka]

Trying to claim the reason Ghost in the Shell and Dragon Ball Evolution failed was because they were too much like the source material? lol

 

[StarkRavingMad]

On what planet was Dragonball: Evolution anything like the source material? Jesus.

Ghost in the Shell is a less offensive adaptation, though. At the very least, the look of the film felt like Ghost in the Shell ...

 

[Trilby]

Its funny how the people behind these Westernized reboots are the woke types who are SO against "Western Cultural Imperialism" and against "Cultural Appropriation" yet steal things from other cultures and try to force their values and their culture on other cultures.

Love to see them pull that off in Taliban-acquired Afghanistan.

 

[Dom Cruise]

In fairness to John Cho, for me, it’s been almost two decades since I’ve seen Cowboy Bebop in full. (The last time I watched it was in the dubbed version and I almost fell asleep to it for some reason. Still, it does not change that the anime for its time actually felt like a unique program.)

It'll be a decade next year since I've watched it, I've been meaning to watch it again since it's been available in HD but generally I don't like to revisit things too frequently and run the risk of them getting stale, eventually though.

That’s what the makers of ID4 said when they were making Godzilla 98. At least Emmerich downright admitting he wasn’t a fan and kept declining to make one.

That's always pissed me off because a post Jurassic Park 90s Hollywood Godzilla movie should have been awesome, instead we got that crap, at least the more recent movies make up for it.

Its funny how the people behind these Westernized reboots are the woke types who are SO against "Western Cultural Imperialism" and against "Cultural Appropriation" yet steal things from other cultures and try to force their values and their culture on other cultures.

I think they consider anime an exception because they associate it with the Alt Right, so it's ok to ruin it in the name of "owning the chuds"

 

[Corpun]

And to the morons who glorify Gren's altered body as this "super progressive" thing: You weren't paying ANY attention to his episodes. He grew breasts because the poor man was experimented on with addictive drugs. He didn't want his body to end up the way it did.

You just know the show writers changed that entirely. Gren is now some transperson who was bullied by his merc peers or some shit and hates Vicious for being a transphobe.

Hoo boy…
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Do journalism schools teach 'why that's a good thing' as crucial to any title or something?

 

[Gar For Archer]

It'll be a decade next year since I've watched it, I've been meaning to watch it again since it's been available in HD but generally I don't like to revisit things too frequently and run the risk of them getting stale, eventually though.


That's always pissed me off because a post Jurassic Park 90s Hollywood Godzilla movie should have been awesome, instead we got that crap, at least the more recent movies make up for it.


I think they consider anime an exception because they associate it with the Alt Right, so it's ok to ruin it in the name of "owning the chuds"

That’s where they’re wrong, though. This isn’t “ruining” anything, because everyone can just… ignore that it exists and never watch it. It’s not like it’s taking away the opportunity to make a good live-action adaptation, because that’s not something anyone was ever asking for in the first place.

At best, fans of the anime will watch the show just to see how bad it is. I can’t imagine anyone is GENUINELY excited for this.

 

[StarkRavingMad]

I understand the appeal of watching this for the cringe.

If you are one of those people who wants to do that, though ... Then please sail the seven seas to do so. Don't give Netflix the streams.

 

[James Roancrest]

I understand the appeal of watching this for the cringe.

If you are one of those people who wants to do that, though ... Then please sail the seven seas to do so. Don't give Netflix the streams.

Meh, I don't want to invest time into watching this shitshow myself. I'll probably watch a funny review of it on YouTube (because you know people will be making fun of this for the next few years).