Cowboy Bebop Thread - Live-Action Adaptation cancelled after one season (it was shit)

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It's not Netflix themselves as they are nothing more than a distributor since they can release good content from time to time. It's just that most writers are hacks and most people that typically do live action adaptations of animated properties are people who don't understand, don't care, or hate the source material. This has been a thing outside of Netflix with shit like Dragon Ball Evolution, The Last Airbender, Ghost in the Shell, and Attack on Titan as major bad examples.
Yeah, it’s a common misconception that Netflix is the creative force behind all of these abortions.

Granted, I don’t know if they are directly involved in this case, but it is generally not true that they have a significant amount of creative control over everything with the Netflix brand on it.
 
Yeah, it’s a common misconception that Netflix is the creative force behind all of these abortions.

Granted, I don’t know if they are directly involved in this case, but it is generally not true that they have a significant amount of creative control over everything with the Netflix brand on it.
Like the one series that I can see Netflix having creative control over is Stranger Things only because it’s a cash cow for them and they market the shit out of it more than anything else
 
TV has long strayed away from serialized "monster of the week" style storytelling, that's just not how it's done anymore.


Integra was already half Indian, but yeah, Ceras being a redhead, they almost assuredly would cast a black actress.

They probably wouldn't adapt Hellsing though considering it almost reveled in the evil of the Nazis and their whole fashion and sense of design, the Nazi leader looks like a stereotypical fat Japanese otaku, the whole thing has a very "military otaku" vibe that is pretty ambivalent about the Nazi's evil, they just make for cool villains.

Of course Woke writers could turn that around and really emphasize the Nazi leader looking like a nerd with some hamfisted "white male nerds are Nazis" messaging.


I can see them turning Kill la Kill into some sort of Riverdale type high school drama, but of course you couldn't have the characters be half naked.
I'm terrified of what they would do to the Major. The Major is a great villain because if you remove the "Nazi" aspect of his character he is quite literally just the Van Helsing archetype. He is the brilliant vampire hunter who's life is dedicated to destroying a subhuman creature of evil darkness with nothing but human will and determination. It's a subversion of the normal story about vampires and the message of such films (human will/soul is lacking in such a creature which is why the humans always win in the end). The Major believes he is superior to Alucard/Dracula because he is human, and that alone puts him on a higher level than "monster" and yet if you look at who the Major is it's clear he is no less a monster than Alucard and perhaps more so. Maybe, the monstrous nature of the vampire doesn't come from their thirst for blood but from their innate humanity.
 
https://youtube.com/watch?v=H79bFPHv4Bc
Here she is some tough swearing girl who swears a lot and can match Spike in hand to hand combat, which not only is wrong with her characterization bt something she rarely partakes in, seeing as she is a breakdown of the femme fatale archtype.
I actually disagree with you slightly but only because the clip makes Faye look even worse. She starts off the scene with a gun to the head of Spike and despite also pulling a knife when she fucks up that power position loses every step of the way. While it might be Cho's disinterested acting every moment of that "fight" looks like he is having to actively restrain himself from shoving her teeth down her throat.

If this is the strong female character it's humiliating. It all but has a flashing neon sign on top of it saying "Oh, can't punch a girl!"
 
Also great butchering of the Katerina/Asimov story. Instead of them being poor and wantning a new life Katerina is some rich girl runaway or some shit. I heard she doesn't even kill Asimov in the end when she realizes the life she wnats is never going to happen and she is going to die like she does in the anime.
Yup. Katarina gets a whole little backstory where Spike and Faye are actually after her and Asimov as separate bounties, she has one over her head for running away from her rich father. The episode beats you over the head with the fact she reminds Spike of Julia and then their iconic death scene gets neutered because Katarina's fake pregnancy belly and Asimov get shot to death before they even reach the cockpit by random goons. Then she stuffs his mangled dead body in there and the episode copies her final futile flight through the gates, but all the changes up until this point makes Netflix Katarina look she was still trying to reach Mars like a suicidal idiot instead of letting herself be killed because she realised it was pointless.
 
I actually disagree with you slightly but only because the clip makes Faye look even worse. She starts off the scene with a gun to the head of Spike and despite also pulling a knife when she fucks up that power position loses every step of the way. While it might be Cho's disinterested acting every moment of that "fight" looks like he is having to actively restrain himself from shoving her teeth down her throat.

If this is the strong female character it's humiliating. It all but has a flashing neon sign on top of it saying "Oh, can't punch a girl!"
All the fights in Netflix Bebop are this horrible especially ones that involve Cho where someone has to actively restrain themselves for him. Like earlier in this same episode, all the martial arts fights are trash since the goons just keep letting Cho beat them up like it was a skit for an internet reviewer show. Cho just really sucks at fight scenes and it really shows. It doesn't help that Cho is the most actively bored within the cast while the others try at best and try too hard at worst.

Yup. Katarina gets a whole little backstory where Spike and Faye are actually after her and Asimov as separate bounties, she has one over her head for running away from her rich father. The episode beats you over the head with the fact she reminds Spike of Julia and then their iconic death scene gets neutered because Katarina's fake pregnancy belly and Asimov get shot to death before they even reach the cockpit by random goons. Then she stuffs his mangled dead body in there and the episode copies her final futile flight through the gates, but all the changes up until this point makes Netflix Katarina look she was still trying to reach Mars like a suicidal idiot instead of letting herself be killed because she realised it was pointless.
Don't forget her iconic death literally sucked and it was just to keep beating Spike over the head in remembering Julia as they even keep using the "Waking up from a dream quote" hard there.
 
Also Julia and Vicious are literally in every hour long episode. So that whole thing is just utterly ruined.
They're the third and second worst parts of the show. Vicious especially sucks since he makes the dumbest facial expressions and whines like a bitch. Vicious in the original is not an amazing character but he at least could be intimidating and isn't an active annoyance.
 
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The more that I read this, the more I slowly turn into Dr. Manhattan:

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>Isn't meant to capture the source material

Alright then explain why the marketing campaign kept making comparisons between the original and this, why Ed is trying to be like a live action version of the anime, why they even hired the original composer and reused songs from the original, and recycling plotlines.

If it's meant to be it's own thing then it does a shit job by leaning too heavily on the original.
 
Nah it's because Faye is generic strong woman and her actor sperged out on twitter due to backlash before the show's release. There is also her quips which are just really bad.

For me personally, Spike is more horribly written and probably the worst character in the show mainly due to how his character became a stupid whiny teenager (mentally) who doesn't take his job seriously with the Syndicate stuff with him feeling like melodrama. Doesn't help John Cho sounds like he just wants his paycheck in every scene.

Like the opening scene of the show is really bad compared to what they were adapting

https://youtube.com/watch?v=B6UryaAukz4
Context: The Bandit (the one who was in the bathroom in the anime movie) here has some dumb science fiction weapon that leads to this

https://youtube.com/watch?v=wQAlJOHfIoU
Compare this to the movie's superior version

https://youtube.com/watch?v=in2JbodXg9k
Even the combat is boring. Look at this bit where Spike shoots the guy he just subdued. It's so slow and obviously acted out.
I actually disagree with you slightly but only because the clip makes Faye look even worse. She starts off the scene with a gun to the head of Spike and despite also pulling a knife when she fucks up that power position loses every step of the way. While it might be Cho's disinterested acting every moment of that "fight" looks like he is having to actively restrain himself from shoving her teeth down her throat.

If this is the strong female character it's humiliating. It all but has a flashing neon sign on top of it saying "Oh, can't punch a girl!"
Putting a gun to someone's head is usual writing you can expect. Modern writers don't understand how stupid that idea is. Not making any blows is because of the idea we can't dare let our two leads fight eachother. The viewer might get confused later on.
Yup. Katarina gets a whole little backstory where Spike and Faye are actually after her and Asimov as separate bounties, she has one over her head for running away from her rich father. The episode beats you over the head with the fact she reminds Spike of Julia and then their iconic death scene gets neutered because Katarina's fake pregnancy belly and Asimov get shot to death before they even reach the cockpit by random goons. Then she stuffs his mangled dead body in there and the episode copies her final futile flight through the gates, but all the changes up until this point makes Netflix Katarina look she was still trying to reach Mars like a suicidal idiot instead of letting herself be killed because she realised it was pointless.
Fuck me that's even worse. They completely ruined the fact Asimov and Katerina were reflections of Spike and Julia.

Both are involved in the criminal underworld and want out and a better life. Spike doe set out but leaves Julia behind and feels like he's not sure whether all this is really real in the first place while Asimov and Katerina die as a result of his actions and decisions taken endangering them both.

Katerina kills him and basically allows herself to die from suicide because she knows the life she wants is never going to happen. Meanwhile when Spike and Julia reunite they do try and get away after checking in on Annie and she dies there when the triad catches up, leading to Spike's choice to see if he is really alive.
 
Even the combat is boring. Look at this bit where Spike shoots the guy he just subdued. It's so slow and obviously acted out.
Yeah the stupidest still goes to when Spike grabs a man's shotgun to shoot people as that guy just doesn't resist Not!Spike at all. The Vicious vs Spike fight is also really bad since it never feels like either one is cornered whatsoever. Then it goes even further down the tubes when Julia shoots Spike after a monologue of her blaming him for why she's a villain all of a sudden.
 
We already had the "actually, I enjoy eating trash" article. It's incredible, the show hasn't been out for a week yet and we already went from "This is Cowboy Bebop, don't fuck it up" to "it's bad on purpose".

Netflix's ‘Cowboy Bebop’ Isn't Supposed to Be Good - The live action adaptation’s sins are numerous. But sometimes, you just gotta follow the music.

Maybe we'll get some more "Cowboy Bebop was always highly problematic" articles by one of these water-carrying, boot-licking outlets, or even a flat out "Cowboy Bebop was always bad, and if you think the original was any good you are insane" article.
 
>Isn't meant to capture the source material

Alright then explain why the marketing campaign kept making comparisons between the original and this, why Ed is trying to be like a live action version of the anime, why they even hired the original composer and reused songs from the original, and recycling plotlines.

If it's meant to be it's own thing then it does a shit job by leaning too heavily on the original.
If you think articles like this are terrible, wait until you talked to family members who'd say the same thing. Especially those who seem or read the source material first. :stress:
 
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