Covid/mRNA Vaccine Info General - "Covid Seasonal Flu Vaccines is Society's New Normal" - FDA

[teriyakiburns]

Honestly, I have seen many more side-effects in my life from Moderna than AZ, the most I have seen from AZ in person are two cases of slight magnetisation.

I assume you mean greasy skin.

 

[Lumpy.Nuala]

I assume you mean greasy skin.

No, the magentisation turned out to be a real side effect.

 

[Gay Mouth]

What the fuck ahaha like they got magneto powers? Spoons sticking to your skin has been proven to be greasy people

 

[Protistology]

As this post shows:

Such viral vector vaccines aren't as new as the DNA and RNA alternatives, though their development is still pretty recent; the rVSV-ZEBOV vaccine, a viral vector vaccine against Ebola, has been used as early as 2016 in Guinea (emergency use) and approved by the US and EU by the end of 2019.

aren't as new

2016

Yeah, no, I'll stick with the dead virus tech that's been used for decades thanks.

 

[Fuck It We'll Do It Live]

Yeah, no, I'll stick with the dead virus tech that's been used for decades thanks.

Honestly, you should also try donating platelets at a blood donation clinic to see your platelet count; if it's healthy, you have nothing to worry about regarding blood clots.

 

[Wormy]

You’ve been derailing the thread for 3 pages with the bizarre claim that over the autumn season NO ONE was attempting to curtail unvaxxed people’s civil rights

Derailing how? It's on topic.
And what civil rights? I ain't even saying that civil rights weren't being monkeyed with, I just want to know which ones, and in specific, who's being told they aren't allowed outside? It's of interest to me because, at least where I live, no such thing is going on. We go outside, we go around maskless, you don't have to be vaccinated to go anywhere, the restaurants are back to full service and hours. So what's going on outside this bubble of freedom, I wonder?

while also equally bizarrely claiming ‘conservatives’ have called for you to be literally lynched.

Yep. I've seen the rhetoric they have towards the vaxxed.

You backed up this ignorant claim by saying you haven’t heard of the president of France

I don't live in France. I ain't under jurisdiction of France or anything their dumbass president says. Why would I care?

Read the thread to educate yourself

If I want to hear about how the 5G Bill Gates Genocide Vax Penis Chopping agenda is going, I can go to A&N, Twitter, or Facebook. I don't need this thread for that.

P.S. Go back to work at your tee hee mystery industry that the ebil conservatives want to shut down in a totally personal attack against you

It's my day off.

 

[PFM]

No. Who is saying "You're not allowed outside"?

I think you're disingenuously taking what was said at face value. You know damn well blue cities/states have proven themselves more authoritarian regarding the covid scam.

 

[Wormy]

I think you're disingenuously taking what was said at face value. You know damn well blue cities/states have proven themselves more authoritarian regarding the covid scam.

I do, makes me all the more glad I'm not there. Pray tell, though, which ones say "You're not allowed outside"?

By the by, are dissenting opinions not allowed in this thread? I thought Kiwi Farms valued free speech and all that jazz?

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

By the by, are dissenting opinions not allowed in this thread? I thought Kiwi Farms valued free speech and all that jazz?

"Whoa you challenged my claims and called me mean names. I thought you valued free speech!"

There is a difference in the spike protein between the AZ vaccine and the others:

Is the sequence of the spike protein different between the different vaccines?

A: Yes! The AstraZeneca vaccine uses the wild-type protein sequence while the Moderna, Pfizer/BioNTech, Novavax and Janssen include a slight modification

dearpandemic.org

See also this study; "Modification of the Spike Protein for Vaccines against Enveloped RNA Viruses": https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8390073/
Also "Vaccines against COVID-19: Priority to mRNA-Based Formulations": https://www.mdpi.com/2073-4409/10/10/2716/pdf

Again, the AstraZeneca vaccine is an option for those not keen on the idea of a modified protein sequence.

But it still expresses the protein to the outside of endemic human cells.

 

[Wormy]

"Whoa you challenged my claims and called me mean names. I thought you valued free speech!"

It was more about the "Y U come and deerail?!" part.

 

[EyelessMC]

Welp, here's some progress for you: I got diagnosed with ALS / Lou Gherig's disease right before the holidays. [...]
So was this the shot's fault or no? Hard to say but.. tl;dr: it's been an honor shitposting with you. 2-5 years avg survival post diagnosis.

Unholy hell, dude. I don't know what to say. I get the "christ is kang" thing is played out but I really do mean it when I suggest reading the Bible, maybe even Ecclesiates considering where your state of mind would be after all this. Or the first and last three chapters of Job (the whole thing is a massive back-and-forth and if you're not used to reading really old style literature it can just grate on you quick). All I can do is tell you that I hope you don't self-destruct with drugs or hookers or whatever and that you find peace now and eternally. You're not dead yet. There's still time.
Maybe even a second opinion. And a third.


As for everyone else ITT: Something heavy like this really puts everything into perspective. The faggoty politics, the gay ops of faggoty mods, the foggotry between oldfags and newfags-- If people really still care about the opinions of actual losers on the internet even after reading something this then I don't know what to tell you. Not one user of this site, nor any admins nor even Null himself is worth your devotion or frustration. It's all transient vapor passing by far weightier things in your life, things that actually matter.

Let's keep posting together as Kiwis and not get roped into political faggotry. I saw some double-posts earlier and what I assume is a newfag sock of an oldfag but whatever. More information collection is what the thread's aim is, not debating someone so up their own ass they don't want to admit they're aligned with either the facile or deranged.

Spoiler: a brief aside for Ponzo

There is a difference between holding a meeting and holding an emergency meeting because myocarditis for people under the age of 24 is at an all time high.

Ponzo why are you responding to him? HHH is a big deal who's been here for a long time before Null like Trombonista. He would stop being a tard if Null told him to--which by the way he talks about him you'd think he thinks they're close friends

--but he doesn't because the same people who complain about HHH also keep responding to him, which is a good point. Complaining about why a fire isn't being put out while sticking your hand into it is retarded. Mind you, a fire would be put out because it burns things but depending on how cold it gets and if you don't even have another person's body heat to spare you the cold you may feel like the fire is your only warmth. This dissonance of people complaining yet replying has been that way for a long time which is what used to make it funny. Although, HHH's rabid politics have become his raison d'etre only recently and it's gotten worse. Thankfully some oldfags and potentially jannies are sympathetic toward his cause or share his views outright so he's not alone in his crusade against anything and everything "right wing", like this thread for example which is clearly a /pol/ hugbox of anti-vaxxers destroying society. If you're not aware or just still too new he's basically a frickin big deal. I mean, haven't you seen the frickin quote corner? Do YOU have a mention in the quote corner?

So before you start responding to the guy as if to argue or debate him, remember that unlike you he's a former Role Playing artisan, a longtime Kiwi celebrity, a righteous political crusader and he's an IT guy in a hospital. Like, as in where doctors work. He's an IT guy in the vicinity of doctors! You need to lurk more.

TL;DR [sarcasm mode: off] Don't bother responding to HHH and just block him by hitting "Ignore", otherwise he'll start sperging up the thread again and maybe even make up claims about you like he did with me in hopes his Am Holing will get a sympathetic mod to get you in trouble or to lock the thread again.

I do, makes me all the more glad I'm not there. Pray tell, though, which ones say "You're not allowed outside"?

More like "you're not allowed to work/shop/etc" It's not Australia tier yet.

By the by, are dissenting opinions not allowed in this thread? I thought Kiwi Farms valued free speech and all that jazz?

Kiwi Farms is not a free speech site--it is a site that embraces free speech. There's a difference. That said, it's weird you'd ask that question considering the over hundred pages you clearly skipped over to start posting. Didn't you see how Null unlocked the thread after it was locked for no given reason by a jannie with a chip on her shoulder over vaccines?

 

[Wahgonga]

And what civil rights? I ain't even saying that civil rights weren't being monkeyed with, I just want to know which ones, and in specific, who's being told they aren't allowed outside? It's of interest to me because, at least where I live, no such thing is going on. We go outside, we go around maskless, you don't have to be vaccinated to go anywhere, the restaurants are back to full service and hours. So what's going on outside this bubble of freedom, I wonder?

Where you live sounds much like where I live. Covid isn't a thing here, and life is normal. However, that's not the situation everywhere. This is just one example, and they're not hard to find-

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-australian-totalitarian-megathread.98651/post-10865542

Yep. I've seen the rhetoric they have towards the vaxxed.

I never had a problem with those who decided to get the shot, until they chose to have a problem with me.

Many of the vaxxed are totalitarian crybullies. They say the most horrible things about those who will not, or cannot get the shot. They want people like myself to be treated as a second class citizen over a personal healthcare decision. These days I see that more and more of the vaxxed would be happy to see us denied medical care, among other punitive punishments.

The sanctimonious vaxxed say all sorts of terrible shit, then get all offended when they get well deserved pushback. Words and actions have consequences.

 

[Lumpy.Nuala]

What the fuck ahaha like they got magneto powers? Spoons sticking to your skin has been proven to be greasy people

No, just two auld lads in their 50's who could stick little bits of metal, like keys to their skin. Both have... demagnetised by now. I actually saw the article that said it was true on this thread... maybe @EyelessMC remembers?

 

[Shaka Brah]

No, just two auld lads in their 50's who could stick little bits of metal, like keys to their skin. Both have... demagnetised by now. I actually saw the article that said it was true on this thread... maybe @EyelessMC remembers?

The only thing I can remember is that the Japanese found magnetized particles (tiny metal filings) in a batch of their Moderna doses.

 

[Gay Mouth]

No, just two auld lads in their 50's who could stick little bits of metal, like keys to their skin. Both have... demagnetised by now. I actually saw the article that said it was true on this thread... maybe @EyelessMC remembers?

Don’t believe everything you read, that can easily be done basically with greasy skin. Unless real magnets were sticking to them, it’s a boomer conspiracy.

 

[Lumpy.Nuala]

Don’t believe everything you read, that can easily be done basically with greasy skin. Unless real magnets were sticking to them, it’s a boomer conspiracy.

No, it literally happened with two auld lads I know, both had one shot of AZ and both were on heart mediation.

 

[Kujo Jotaro]

I wouldn't take such a product without consulting my doctor first. If she said "That's not a good idea considering _______" I don't take it. I consult her because she's had an excellent track record with me and my health issues, and everything she's recommended has proven to be to my benefit. Thanks to her advice, I've managed to eliminate constant pain in my right leg, gotten my heart issues under control, my lungs are actually healing, you get the idea.

Who should they listen to then if not science?

I've said many times before; I judge people far more on who they DO trust instead of who they DON'T.

The only person you should trust is yourself. No human being is infallible; but unlike with others you can identify your own issues and shortcomings. You have to trust your own judgment, and ability to discern truth.

Problems arise when faggots try to dictate others lives.

 

[Wormy]

The only person you should trust is yourself. No human being is infallible; but unlike with others you can identify your own issues and shortcomings.

On many things, of course, but there are specific things I choose to seek the advice of people better trained and educated than me on the topic. I didn't know why my leg was all of a sudden experiencing sharp pain. I didn't know why I was experiencing fainting spells seemingly around the same hour every day. After exhausting my own knowledge on it, I sought out other's expertise on it.

You have to trust your own judgment, and ability to discern truth.

And I used that to get the opinion and advice of someone who had given me good advice and guidance before.

Problems arise when faggots try to dictate others lives.

I agree.

 

[EyelessMC]

Clock me late but I just saw this: NHS Doctor on Covid Vaccination

No, just two auld lads in their 50's who could stick little bits of metal, like keys to their skin. Both have... demagnetised by now. I actually saw the article that said it was true on this thread... maybe @EyelessMC remembers?

Unless you can show me otherwise I'm gonna say there has never been such an article posted in this thread. The OP has a MEGA archive and the Archive Post has previous information reaching back to the day the OP was first created. I've never heard of anyone taking the notion of the vaccines magnetizing anyone as being true outside of fringe internet groups. You're likely thinking of what Shaka Brah said.

The sanctimonious vaxxed say all sorts of terrible shit, then get all offended when they get well deserved pushback. Words and actions have consequences.

The most frustrating thing is it's a cult of politics. Guaranteed if Trump was president the vast majority of rabid uber vaxxers would be screaming about how bad the vaccines are and how Trump is going to kill us all with rushed vaccines. Then you'd have Trumpets tooting their god emperor's call and suggesting everyone who doesn't get the vaccine is a commie.
But I could be wrong. Maybe they'd all be uber vaxxers anyway because the messaging would be the same. Ultimately it's less about politics and more about compulsion and a terminal deficit in critical thinking, it's just that rabid politics is what fuels it most.

 

[murph]

I can't reply to this one but

"I suggest reading the Bible"

Hey lookie at Timothy, likely a faggot, but he said in 2 Tim 1:7

For God did not give us a spirit of fear, but of power and love and of a sound mind.

Sounds timeless to me.