Comicsgate Hangers-On and Drama Whores - A thread about some guy who's mad about Star Wars and the neckbeards obsessively stalking him

These people have proven time and time again they are worse than DC and Marvel due to them claiming they are better than them.
Not just because they don't deliver, but because they're actively proving that there is management at the big 2. They do management, they do have a business strategy, they do have PR and quality control it's just the autism of certain creative types is so strong that it creeps out even with management and gets worse without it (see comicsgay).

Personally this makes me happy because I've been trying to prove to the retarded comic book community that management and business side of comic books is just as important as their precious mistreated creators.
 
touché... can’t argue with hard proof like that. By the way, I am feel for you on the condition of your book. I would be pissed as fuck if my copy of Cyberfrog started getting those spots. But I only read through the book once.

I read a copy just halfway through, and it disintegrated in my fucking hands. I'm outraged at myself.

Ethan got on mike starting a new campaign
on lonestar yet he's doing the same thing.

I feel like you aren't actually listening to what I'm saying, you're just hearing what you want to hear.

Mike doing a new campaign is fine. It makes sense to try to make more money from his work. I made fun of Mike for overstuffing his campaign again.

ONE new Lonestar cover will make just as much money, if not more, than NINE new Lonestar covers, and won't be confusing to his backers, and won't cost as much to print or pay the other eight artists for. Backers usually come to a crowdfunding campaign with a certain amount of money they want to spend. Someone might come to Lonestar with $25. They only want to know the RIGHT thing to buy, they don't want to be inundated with expensive choices. They just want to support Mike.

And think about this: Lets say Mike gets 500 backers, and 500 purchases. If he only had ONE new cover, he could pay less money bulk printing 750 copies of ONE cover. With NINE covers, those 500 purchases are scattered across nine different comics, meaning he'll have to print 145 copies of Cover A, 58 copies of Cover B, etc. It's a big expensive mess.

I'm NOT "doing the same thing." I'm selling remainder product (nothing new) to people who want to buy it at an inflated price.
You have TWO items to choose from on my campaign. Or you can get both items. That's very simple. People understand it, and they can make a quick decision for themselves.

MORE CHOICE doesn't equal MORE DONATIONS. It equals more confusion, more items to have to create, more cost. It's a self-defeating mistake made from greed.

He needs cash and is to lazy to draw new things.

No, this isn't cash. It's money that goes into my S-Corp, and is used to grow my business. I want more money so that I can guarantee that the CYBERFROG 2 campaign will be bigger, better, and that the book, (and the other books I'm paying other creators to make for me) will be paid for before we even begin crowdfunding it. I haven't drawn a paycheck from CYBERFROG yet. YouTube is paying my household bills.
 
I'm not sure about Doug's expenses. I know he charged different prices to different locations, with wide variation in price. He got hosed on BigFoot Bill with shipping and adjusted, but it seems that a lot of people paid nearly the same price for shipping as they did their books. It's a tough thing to work out.

I'm asking $12 worldwide, for shipping, packing supplies and workers to assemble the packages, stuff and label them and ship them. I've already advance paid the fulfillment center $150,000, and I guess I'll get another bill from them when everything shakes out. If I overcharged, I guess I'll expect a refund. But from what I'm seeing, I'll expect another bill.
Just be fucking honest and admit you blew all that money on Rose Tico figures

I’d change printers if I were you, either that or opt for higher quality paper that will absorb the ink better.
or he's just being disingenuous or scummy as fuck. there's no way that anyone would miss those problems when the printers send you copies of proofs. so, he either didn't check the proofs for problems, or he just ok'ed it because its cheap and he can pocket more money when he cheapens it out
 
I’d change printers if I were you, either that or opt for higher quality paper that will absorb the ink better.

I used DC Comics' main printer in Canada. They're excellent. The paper quality was the same as is used in tons of DC and Marvel comics. Printed comics don't "flake" ink off like they're paintings. That's stupid. So we've got 3 other options:

1. Either the person received a comic with rare minor printing defects that he didn't notice until now.

2. He has severe dandruff.

3. He's a retard who is lying and trying to create distrust and hatred for me and my beautiful product.

Actually, it's probably all three.
 
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I used DC Comics' main printer in Canada. They're excellent. The paper quality was the same as is used in tons of DC and Marvel comics. Printed comics don't "flake" ink off like they're paintings. That's stupid. So we've got two other options:

1. Either the person received a comic with rare minor printing defects that he didn't notice until now.

2. He has severe dandruff.

3. He's an exceptional individual who is lying and trying to create distrust and hatred for me and my beautiful product.

Actually, it's probably all three.
Huh????
When I was working for comics, we get 5 copies of printing proofs to check for consistency and errors, mostly in coloring since we use thick laminated gloss paper but the the printer uses YMCK color profile and we use RGB color profile, and we get free 3 test print runs. The paper quality, thickness, the ink on the proofs are the indicator of quality of the finish product. There is simply no way that a printed proof in high quality will have a shitty final product, since it is run on a setting on a machine. Literally, the only way you can fuck it up is to throw a monkey wrench on to the printing machines.

There is only one explanation. You opted for the cheapest option, didn't check the proofs or didn't really care because you wanted to pocket more of the that indigogo money.
 
Huh????
When I was working for comics, we get 5 copies of printing proofs to check for consistency and errors, mostly in coloring since we use thick laminated gloss paper but the the printer uses YMCK color profile and we use RGB color profile, and we get free 3 test print runs. The paper quality, thickness, the ink on the proofs are the indicator of quality of the finish product. There is simply no way that a printed proof in high quality will have a shitty final product, since it is run on a setting on a machine. Literally, the only way you can fuck it up is to throw a monkey wrench on to the printing machines.

There is only one explanation. You opted for the cheapest option, didn't check the proofs or didn't really care because you wanted to pocket more of the that indigogo money.

has their been other reports of Cyberfrog coming out like all spotty like that? Because, one would figure that would have been one of the main complaints And that would be cited by all of Ethan’s enemies on YouTube.
 
has their been other reports of Cyberfrog coming out like all spotty like that? Because, one would figure that would have been one of the main complaints And that would be cited by all of Ethan’s enemies on YouTube.
even most of his enemies just point out how lazily done the comic is. not many point out the paper quality.
The sad thing is that, there are not really that much people that pay attention to the quality of the paper since its probably the lowest priority for these people. but those when the flaws of the paper used gets pointed out, comicsgaters get so mad that Ya boi Zack comes out of his hidey hole to half-ass gay threat people that they will be sued.

Yeah, normal people will not care much about the paper quality. But when ever i see a Cyberfrog review on the youtube, even the praising ones, you can really see the cheapness of the paper used on the interior.
 
Huh????
When I was working for comics, we get 5 copies of printing proofs to check for consistency and errors, mostly in coloring since we use thick laminated gloss paper but the the printer uses YMCK color profile and we use RGB color profile, and we get free 3 test print runs. The paper quality, thickness, the ink on the proofs are the indicator of quality of the finish product. There is simply no way that a printed proof in high quality will have a shitty final product, since it is run on a setting on a machine. Literally, the only way you can fuck it up is to throw a monkey wrench on to the printing machines.

There is only one explanation. You opted for the cheapest option, didn't check the proofs or didn't really care because you wanted to pocket more of the that indigogo money.

That's right, and the printing quality on CYBERFROG BLOODHONEY is exquisite. Proof of that is that this retard is literally the only person claiming that the ink is falling off the pages in spots. When you "was working for comics," did you ever hear of anything that fucking retarded? No, probably not.

The paper weight is something we can agree SHOULD have been thicker, but COULDN'T be and still have the chromium wraparound cover, as I've explained a hundred times. Still, it looks much better than most of the Marvel and DC product it was meant to compete against, and no, I didn't "cheapen out" to "pocket more of the IndieGoGo money." That is literally fucking stupid.

But all of this is. It's obsessive, borderline autistic behavior. That's what I come to KiwiFarms to read!
 
That's right, and the printing quality on CYBERFROG BLOODHONEY is exquisite. Proof of that is that this exceptional individual is literally the only person claiming that the ink is falling off the pages in spots. When you "was working for comics," did you ever hear of anything that fucking exceptional? No, probably not.

The paper weight is something we can agree SHOULD have been thicker, but COULDN'T be and still have the chromium wraparound cover, as I've explained a hundred times. Still, it looks much better than most of the Marvel and DC product it was meant to compete against, and no, I didn't "cheapen out" to "pocket more of the IndieGoGo money." That is literally fucking stupid.

But all of this is. It's obsessive, borderline autistic behavior. That's what I come to KiwiFarms to read!
No, that's not how it works here. no amount of autistic and gay defense will prove you right.

The only possible reason a person's copy would have a fluting ink and thin paper is that the printer was ordered to use the cheapest quality paper, which can result in a variance of printing. that's it.

So, to put things to rest, just show proofs of the bill breakdown/quote from the printer on how much you spent on printing it on how much copies you ordered. You can even cross out or censor the name of the printer. The balls in your court to show that you didn't cheapen out on this.
 
No, that's not how it works here. no amount of autistic and gay defense will prove you right.

The only possible reason a person's copy would have a fluting ink and thin paper is that the printer was ordered to use the cheapest quality paper, which can result in a variance of printing. that's it.

So, to put things to rest, just show proofs of the bill breakdown/quote from the printer on how much you spent on printing it on how much copies you ordered. You can even cross out or censor the name of the printer. The balls in your court to show that you didn't cheapen out on this.

OK, I'll get right on that. Keep the ball in my court, okay?
 
3. He's an exceptional individual who is lying and trying to create distrust and hatred for me and my beautiful product.
Actually, it's probably all three.
I sure like the underlining backhanded hostility of your recent posts.
Actually the complaints about thin paper are common enough Old Meme Zack (who usually ignored the majority of CG criticism) tried to defend you, so there's that. As for why there are no more complaints about Ink coming off. Well, maybe not many people hold it for long enough, since there ain't much to read there.

Upd: also how can this person fabricate these "lies"? How could you leave those marks? The worst option is the he purposely rubbed the paper which is basically what Zack's been doing to the mainstream books so it should be a fair game
 
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I sure like the underlining backhanded hostility of your recent posts.
Actually the complaints about thin paper are common enough Old Meme Zack (who usually ignored the majority of CG criticism) tried to defend you, so there's that. As for why there are no more complaints about Ink coming off. Well, maybe not many people hold it for long enough, since there ain't much to read there.

Upd: also how can this person fabricate these "lies"? How could you leave those marks? The worst option is the he purposely wrapped the paper which is basically what Zack's been doing to the mainstream books so it should be a fair game

I'm sure glad you're detecting my "backhanded hostility", you retard. You're obsessed with me. Stop it.
 
No, that's not how it works here. no amount of autistic and gay defense will prove you right.

The only possible reason a person's copy would have a fluting ink and thin paper is that the printer was ordered to use the cheapest quality paper, which can result in a variance of printing. that's it.

So, to put things to rest, just show proofs of the bill breakdown/quote from the printer on how much you spent on printing it on how much copies you ordered. You can even cross out or censor the name of the printer. The balls in your court to show that you didn't cheapen out on this.

on the fluting issue, is it safe to say that Marvel and DC use cheap paper as well? Because I see that plenty of their books have that same issue.
 
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"Obsession" would be following you around. I'm simply here, in this thread. Still have nothing to say, I see.

No, that would be "stalking." You're definitely obsessed with me.

And I do have something to say.

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ITT an insecure man who has admitted at least once he doesn't like his job gets into slapfights with spergs over some genuine criticisms (cheap paper is a no-va dude) and ruins his chances of others wanting to buy his work or improve his brand.

Peacocks all the while too.
 
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