Chris - The Legal Issues - A Prosecutor's Perspective

I’m looking forward for the Defense not even doing an opening statement, but just passing out the complete collectors edition of Sonichu to the jury and judge, and then questioning Chris about the many worldwide fans he has because of Sonichu.

A single tear will roll down the prosecutors cheek as he sees which way the wind is blowing, and the judge will have the jury approach the bench for a quick and quite unheard of conference.

Chris will be ruled NGRI before the lunch break, but instead of celebrating he’ll stomp his feet and loudly exclaim that justice HAS NOT BEEN DONE until Joshua Moon returns the 5000$ he has STOLEN, and arranges a pony convention for Chris, since he missed out on Pony Fag Fest West or whatever it was called.

It is foreseen!
Is it like College? If your lawyer An Hero's himself in open court do you get a free pass?
 
Why any of you were giving Chris money in the first place is beyond me. He has squandered literally every dollar he's ever had.

If you ever paid taxes in Virginia you should be legally allowed to raid his house now that it stands empty. You paid for that huge pile of toys, videogames, unwashed clothing, and pet carcasses.
 
Meh, @Null is an unusual position. In a way he has profited from Chris (not saying that it’s raining shekels on Null 24-7, but the Farms certainly wouldn’t be what it is without him.)

At the same time the Farms are at least indirectly responsible for a lot of the attention Chris gets.

So what do you do when fate for some fucked reason has at least partly tied you to Chris?

Null chose to try and help him. At least a little.

Call it optimistic, call it naive, or call it worth a try, but I think he learned a lesson.

Not sure what that lesson is, but it’s probably something about “some people are beyond help. And motherfuckers don’t deserve it”.

And hey: Strictly speaking, we don’t know if he is a rapist. If we were talking about anyone else I wouldn’t say this, but with Chris and Barb? Who the fuck knows.

I’ll be following the trial with autistic interest.
There's very strong evidence that Chris did this and Barb didn't want it. I wouldn't put it past Barb to recant and deny because the alternative means dying outside of her home. She knows she doesn't have much time and a trade off for loving on her own terms means having Chris force himself inside her.

Why any of you were giving Chris money in the first place is beyond me. He has squandered literally every dollar he's ever had.

If you ever paid taxes in Virginia you should be legally allowed to raid his house now that it stands empty. You paid for that huge pile of toys, videogames, unwashed clothing, and pet carcasses.
They'll do it again and again until Chris is either caught with his hands down the pants of a child or in the possession of kiddie porn, then they'll do it some more.
 
Why any of you were giving Chris money in the first place is beyond me. He has squandered literally every dollar he's ever had.

If you ever paid taxes in Virginia you should be legally allowed to raid his house now that it stands empty. You paid for that huge pile of toys, videogames, unwashed clothing, and pet carcasses.
In their defense the ways he squanders money is quality entertainment for the advanced cow watcher.
 
I remember an ep of radiolab where an epileptic guy had a brain op to stop his seizures, which worked but fucked up his sex inhibitions and he ended up with homeland knocking on his door and seizing tons of cp he'd downloaded. He argued inculpable cos of the op, but they got him by pointing out he never did it on a work computer knowing he'd be caught if he did so could control his compulsion. It won't take much for a prosecutor to point out that by keeping it secret, especially as a constant online poster, he knew it was wrong and therefore is criminally culpable. Forget the leaks. The test isn't what the story is, it's if the person accused did the crime knowing it was a crime. The bigger story is just for us.
What the fuck? Even hardcore porn addicts wouldn't look at porn on their work computer. It's just common sense.

There's very strong evidence that Chris did this and Barb didn't want it. I wouldn't put it past Barb to recant and deny because the alternative means dying outside of her home. She knows she doesn't have much time and a trade off for loving on her own terms means having Chris force himself inside her.
You just gave me a horrifying thought, what if Barb tries to bail her son out one more time? Mother's Mercy, and all that. An incredibly fucked up version of Mother's Mercy and done for entirely selfish reasons, but still.

Well, the State won't care and the science won't lie. It'd be just a despicable horrible final act from her. One more nail in the coffin of the proof that she would coddle and shield her son from any real life consequences no matter how horrible his actions are.
 
What the fuck? Even hardcore porn addicts wouldn't look at porn on their work computer. It's just common sense.


You just gave me a horrifying thought, what if Barb tries to bail her son out one more time? Mother's Mercy, and all that. An incredibly fucked up version of Mother's Mercy and done for entirely selfish reasons, but still.

Well, the State won't care and the science won't lie. It'd be just a despicable horrible final act from her. One more nail in the coffin of the proof that she would coddle and shield her son from any real life consequences no matter how horrible his actions are.
Hmm I can easily see Barb throw Chris under the bus if she really wanted to and punish Chris just for the sake of it, knowing her history, she is a vile despicable old women that has treated everyone around her incredibly poorly throughout her life, if she wanted to and is mentally stable enough to do so, she can frame Chris as an uncontrollable monster and entirely blame shift most of attention directly at Chris, she would still face punishment for incest charges I believe, but because of her precarious position financially as well as her age, her sentence would probably not be that severe, it would be Chris that would be facing maximum punishment at that point.

However, this possibility does fall apart if Barb is just not all well in the mind (if she actually does have dementia or something similar), and she can't coherently bring enough evidence to the table that she was completely innocent and the guilt solely rests on Chris (but this could then end up being worse for Chris, because if Barb was just so out of reality at the time that she couldn't comprehend that she was having intercourse with chris and/or being raped at times, I'd imagine the prosecution will absolutely rip into Chris especially if they have so much evidence that they may have found in the interviews/analysis of Barb, Chris's computers/hard drives/whatever else they can use against him).
 
What the fuck? Even hardcore porn addicts wouldn't look at porn on their work computer. It's just common sense.

Buddy, you have no idea how many child porn cases get brought up by businesses reporting the shit they find on issued laptops when they get eaten up with malware from suspicious sites. I'm sure normal porn is orders of magnitude more common.
 
You just gave me a horrifying thought, what if Barb tries to bail her son out one more time? Mother's Mercy, and all that. An incredibly fucked up version of Mother's Mercy and done for entirely selfish reasons, but still.

Well, the State won't care and the science won't lie. It'd be just a despicable horrible final act from her. One more nail in the coffin of the proof that she would coddle and shield her son from any real life consequences no matter how horrible his actions are.
He waited in a holding cell near central surveillance. He hadn't bathed or shaved in the past two weeks. As he rocked back and forth singing the theme song to My Little Pony 4G, his bald spot faded in and out of view under the sick, flickering fluorescent lights Joe Biden had graciously donated with taxpayer funding. From head to toe, Chris was dressed like a homosexual bigfoot with brain damage. His feet were sporting Nikes Chris had painted and signed himself, his legs were adorned with a cheap blue jean mini skirt from Wal Mart and a pair of tick-tock leggings. On his upper torso, he proudly displayed his signature "Breath It In Garment", which his fellow inmates were sick of doing. His favorite accessories dangled upon his neck and limbs; a Sonichu medallion and crystals underneath his stubbly blubber with Fisher-Price and Ariana Grande's 7 rings around his hairy knuckles. He felt like he was about to twerk out of this dimension with his delusionally perceived supple body and large breasts when a guard said, "You're ready to go Christine".

All of a sudden, Chris smelled the familiar fragrance of Aspricream, mothballs, cough drops, and stale piss, which gave him an erection; it was mudder. Chris followed Barb and the guard out to freedom; Chris' finally was able to feel the wind over his bald spot once again!. As the officer watched Barb and Chris walk off into the sunset, Barb proudly proclaimed, "Christine, It's McDonald's first, and then, we'll go on home, so I can give you my signature gummy bears, and you can provide the duck sauce!" Officer Greenland who had been a CO at the Central Virginia Jail thought to himself, "It's too late, it's too late for us all!"
 
It might be partly due to the outrage about Hinckley getting released after nearly killing Reagan. 35 years is nothing to sneeze at, though.
it is 100% because of Hinckley's NGRI. The years right after Hinckley's NGRI have fucked that plea so thoroughly that IIRC, four states completely got rid of the plea, and the fed adopted Insanity Reform '83 which brought the plea backwards from ALI standard of inability to conform conduct to the traditional M'N rule.
(I also have schizobrain beliefs about Hinckley's whole deal, his family's connections to glow, and the ascendancy of the Bush family but that's kind of tangential to the fact the shithead ruined insanity pleas)
 
Buddy, you have no idea how many child porn cases get brought up by businesses reporting the shit they find on issued laptops when they get eaten up with malware from suspicious sites. I'm sure normal porn is orders of magnitude more common.
Understatement of the century. Slight PL, but at work we had to come up with a process for prefiltering out all the irrelevant pr0n when we'd ingest scraped forensic data from custodians to database for legal doc review teams to work on, there was so goddamn much of it. Bankers were consistently the worst for being on the job porn fiends. Apologies for the brief OT.
 
He fucked his mom. This is how pathetic Virginia is. They can't even get that basic fact right. It's fucking Virginia. Probably half the state is guilty of that.
Parents sexually abusing their children might be common, but an adult sexually abusing their elderly parent is extremely rare. They probably don't have anything in the system for that.
 
I haven't followed this whole thread so not sure if this has been mentioned. Since Chris will have outbursts during the hearings, can they ban Chris from the courtroom for being too disruptive? Or does the defendant have to be present to proceed?

They can proceed without the defendant but we're talking about extreme levels of disruption for that to happen. Not just the occasional outburst or foot stamping.
 
They can proceed without the defendant but we're talking about extreme levels of disruption for that to happen. Not just the occasional outburst or foot stamping.
I'm assuming this is going to happen, just because I feel like he won't be able to stay on topic, it's going to go to the merge and he won't shut up.
 
I'm assuming this is going to happen, just because I feel like he won't be able to stay on topic, it's going to go to the merge and he won't shut up.

My theory is that he's going to get really introverted and quiet due to his time in prison. He likes to be pushy and disruptive but only to a point - when the other side demonstrates a superior position he always backs down. By now he's probably tested the limits with other inmates and COs, and realized that's not a fight he's capable of winning.
 
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