Garfieldchu
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What about the defense? "My client is so exceptional that she was blackmailed into performing sex acts on camera by threatening to kill her fictional cartoon characters with a moon laser."
Chris - The Legal Issues - A Prosecutor's Perspective
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I really want Chris to be his own attorney, so he can make a closing argument.
"Ladies and gender non-conforming members of the jury, the evidence provided by the state is laughable at best and is about as harmless as smoking a marijuana cigarette, littering, and jaywalking. There is overwhelming evidence that I did sleep with muh mudder, but the state wants you to see this as a 'bad', 'wrong' or 'harmful' . There's nothing harmful about a relationship between a mother and a daughter, and if on occasion, a few Sonichus would like to watch, well, that ain't hurttin' no one. Yes, my mudder, and I have had a sexual relations, but as Jesus says, 'Let him who is without sin cast the first stone'! Jesus was a great man, he knew what his mudder's vagina smelt like! My point is that sex between a mudder and a daughter is natural and American. It's about as American as eatin' ice cream, watchin' da football, or even watchin' two dykes play bumper cars.
You don't want to be UNAMERICAN, Do YOU?
Vote Christine Weston Chandler for President of the United States!
"Ladies and gender non-conforming members of the jury, the evidence provided by the state is laughable at best and is about as harmless as smoking a marijuana cigarette, littering, and jaywalking. There is overwhelming evidence that I did sleep with muh mudder, but the state wants you to see this as a 'bad', 'wrong' or 'harmful' . There's nothing harmful about a relationship between a mother and a daughter, and if on occasion, a few Sonichus would like to watch, well, that ain't hurttin' no one. Yes, my mudder, and I have had a sexual relations, but as Jesus says, 'Let him who is without sin cast the first stone'! Jesus was a great man, he knew what his mudder's vagina smelt like! My point is that sex between a mudder and a daughter is natural and American. It's about as American as eatin' ice cream, watchin' da football, or even watchin' two dykes play bumper cars.
You don't want to be UNAMERICAN, Do YOU?
Vote Christine Weston Chandler for President of the United States!
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They're supposed to be, but that's one of the areas where the actual practice is far less savory. One of the reasons I dislike Kamala Harris so much is that her office not only took no disciplinary actions against a prosecutor who obtained a conviction by giving the defense counsel a forged translation of a defendant's interview with the police that added a confession to a sentencing enhancement (causing a rift between defendant and counsel because counsel pushed def for a plea based on a much stronger case than the prosecution actually had), but fought to not have the conviction thrown out on the grounds that a) "it was just a prank bro, lol, no need to get so worked up" and b) "the one and only reason convictions can be thrown out is if we beat a confession out of the defendant, literally no other misconduct counts." Her office also regularly tried to defend the practice of not disclosing that jailhouse snitches were compensated for their testimony. IIRC, in both cases the 9th Circuit panels noted that, even aside from the direct effect on the cases in front of them, they were troubled by how no one got disciplined over this behavior and that the state's DoJ seemed to tacitly endorse it.
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His lawyer is going to have to pound it into his thick, autistic skull to act civilized. However he believes his shitty fan fic hedgehogs
are going to appear out of thin air and save him from this. He has no ideas how fucked he is.
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- 7 de Ago, 2020
There was a poll in the top of one of the other threads posted here and more then 30% of the voters agreed that Chris would probably be locked up in prison, around 25% said he'll get off scot free, and 10% said that he'll end up in the loony bin. I think unless he's going to pull off that the dimensional merge warped his mens rea into thinking that Barb was actually a different entity in itself (like Barbchu) that he probably won't end up in a mental institution.
My knowledge of American criminal law is limited so forgive me, but if his lawyer wanted to play the long game, he could potentially try to argue to the insanity defense statute right? Just looking at some of the basics of it, he can dive deep into Chris's character, his behaviour, his potential intellectual and psychological disorders as back up for him to potentially be unift to stand trial.
It's a huge stretch but it's something to think about, but considering that his lawyer was assigned to him by the state, I presume he'll just do the bare minimum and not even mention the thought?
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Your question is a multifaceted one for certain.
In the strictest sense, Chris's attorney absolutely can argue NGRI (Not Guilty for Reasons of Insanity). Not because this is a good argument, but in a criminal trial, the defense can argue anything, ANYTHING under the sun in defense of their client no matter how remote, improbable, or absurd. Where a lawyer would get censured in a civil litigation for making frivolous arguments, in criminal defense work there is no stone too small to throw at the prosecution.
But one has to remember two balancing factors: First, you're arguing to turn the jury in your favor, not to defeat a prosecutor. Throwing debris at the wall to see what sticks often confuses, irritates, and distracts the jury. So typically you want to focus on simple concepts that generate doubt as to the veracity of the prosecution's case, and remember that juries on average have a seventh grade reading comprehension level, are most unfortunately made up of people who can't find an excuse to escape jury duty, and Chris, the childish, whiny, "trans" petulant mother rapist that he is isn't exactly the most sympathetic defendant to begin with.
Second, the bar to succeed on an NGRI defense is ABSURDLY high. It's an affirmative defense to begin with, and risky by nature: You're admitting to every element of the crime out of hand and then saying BUT my client isn't responsible because of XYZ. Courts have picked apart NGRI defenses to death, and Chris has demonstrated through his own hand and omission he is at most levels aware of what he's done and aware it was wrong -- hence his concealment and hiding what he had done except for when he was bragging to "trusted" parties.
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Actually it looks like Fatty lucked out again and drew a talented and experienced lawyer who just works per spec for Greene County. He's already laying the groundwork for a decent defense via "outside influences" and getting Fatty to shut the hell up.
It seems god does look out for fools.
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To support what Learned Hand said here, there was recently a murder trial (Mollie Tibbetts) with a decent level of public interest where the defense tried to argue that the defendant was kidnapped by what was essentially ninjas, who then murdered the girl, and framed it on the defendant (who could barely speak any English but conveniently heard the "ninjas" say things that implicated her boyfriend). Then when he got convicted they wanted a retrial in which they wanted to claim sex trafficking.
And then famously Casey Anthony's attorney accused her father of being a pedophile in his opening statement, proceeded to never mention it again or provide evidence, and was barred from mentioning it in his closing argument by the judge. The barring was the only kind of sanction he received for the baseless accusation. The defense deadass can say whatever.
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But it' "Internet Famous Retard Jizz" surely that has some extra special collectable value to the discriminating collector? It's the sauce that makes them special.
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I remember an ep of radiolab where an epileptic guy had a brain op to stop his seizures, which worked but fucked up his sex inhibitions and he ended up with homeland knocking on his door and seizing tons of cp he'd downloaded. He argued inculpable cos of the op, but they got him by pointing out he never did it on a work computer knowing he'd be caught if he did so could control his compulsion. It won't take much for a prosecutor to point out that by keeping it secret, especially as a constant online poster, he knew it was wrong and therefore is criminally culpable. Forget the leaks. The test isn't what the story is, it's if the person accused did the crime knowing it was a crime. The bigger story is just for us.
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Is there a chance that future court appearances / the trial will be behind closed doors , no media due to Chris’s infamy? Or is that illegal?I’m not too familiar with legal precedents.
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I know for local court hearings he's done for debts and misdemeanours people have been in with phones to doc - maybe someone with knowledge of GA courts could say how likely that is on the charges he's facing? Sorry for double post, newfag bleugh
I’m not too familiar with legal precedents.
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I thought because of the sexual assault based nature of the case it's going to be by-default closed door, non public proceedings only. That is, if it goes to trial in the first place.
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He is certainly quite a terror in C-197.
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I’m looking forward for the Defense not even doing an opening statement, but just passing out the complete collectors edition of Sonichu to the jury and judge, and then questioning Chris about the many worldwide fans he has because of Sonichu.
A single tear will roll down the prosecutors cheek as he sees which way the wind is blowing, and the judge will have the jury approach the bench for a quick and quite unheard of conference.
Chris will be ruled NGRI before the lunch break, but instead of celebrating he’ll stomp his feet and loudly exclaim that justice HAS NOT BEEN DONE until Joshua Moon returns the 5000$ he has STOLEN, and arranges a pony convention for Chris, since he missed out on Pony Fag Fest West or whatever it was called.
It is foreseen!
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If Chris gets off, I hope Null doesn't go back to whiteknighting a man we all know is a rapist.
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I think even Chief Janny Null is done with Chris.
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Meh, @Null is an unusual position. In a way he has profited from Chris (not saying that it’s raining shekels on Null 24-7, but the Farms certainly wouldn’t be what it is without him.)
At the same time the Farms are at least indirectly responsible for a lot of the attention Chris gets.
So what do you do when fate for some fucked reason has at least partly tied you to Chris?
Null chose to try and help him. At least a little.
Call it optimistic, call it naive, or call it worth a try, but I think he learned a lesson.
Not sure what that lesson is, but it’s probably something about “some people are beyond help. And motherfuckers don’t deserve it”.
And hey: Strictly speaking, we don’t know if he is a rapist. If we were talking about anyone else I wouldn’t say this, but with Chris and Barb? Who the fuck knows.
I’ll be following the trial with autistic interest.
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I wonder how many here even know that the name “kiwi farms” is a bastardization of “CWCki forum”.