Chris/Crystal Hall / @transqueerbitch / @1toofew102many - "KF HAS LITERALLY KILLED TRANNIES!", "multiple system", harassed Amanda Waite on Twitter + FB

[sourrascal]

While I agree, it is good to remember that a college level club is made up of 18-22 year olds doing something in their spare time. So in general probably fair to expect something closer to a high school argument than Lincoln v Douglas.

I don't really agree with the way Policy debate works but it's not just college students who are into it, there are professors and professional debate coaches who are paid money to do research. Yes, I met someone this summer whose full time job it was to coach a team. This is just the way the debate style has evolved because it is a competition/game vs actual public speaking. But I guess there are people here who will trash anything academic because it's complicated and "too hard to understand".

I am not a personally a fan of the style or the community (though my good friend is part of it, and I've met other interesting people part of it when I went to a music festival this summer).

The college policy debate community is currently rife with transtrenders. Tournament registrations include "preferred pronouns" fill-in-the-blanks these days. Using the phrase "you guys" in rounds (and in general) will get you an earful about sexism/misgendering. The activity is becoming increasingly fractured between folks who want to actually debate, you know, policies/the actual debate topic vs. those who talk about transphobia/racism/sexism/etc. even if only tenuously related to the topic/their opponents' arguments. Some universities have now proposed (not sure if they've actually happened yet) holding tournaments where -ism arguments are essentially banned because they're sick of the SJW cancer that has infiltrated and festered in the community.

It's no surprise to me that this lolcow has spawned from the policy debate community. I honestly expect there to be more.

I have a story of someone who got assumed he used "they" pronouns by the debate community because he forgot to put his gender in facebook. There are probably more loony stories but that's the one that comes to mind.

Rick and Morty have more stimulating debates than whatever the hell that's intended to accomplish.

Rick and Morty is a mass market tv show. Policy debate is a competition/game. Really different things.

 

[Replicant Sasquatch]

Rick and Morty is a mass market tv show. Policy debate is a competition/game. Really different things.

I think that's the gist of his joke. The "debates" in Rick and Morty are Morty whining and hand-wringing over the moral implications of everything while Rick just snidely dismisses whatever he says. This is still more substantive than what passes for debate among millennials.

 

[Field Marshal Crappenberg]

A lot of the lolcows here have either gotten a thread or brought more attention to it by carrying on like petulant children online. I think this is the third such case I came across since Christmas. She thinks arguing more with people who she feels are vile enemies of hers is going to make things better! How does someone come to the conclusion that fighting over Twitter with Kiwis or trolls in general is a logical thing to do? And Twitter is a fucking awful venue for arguments anyway.

She's also one of those overly militant transgender advocates. She and others don't feel male crossdressers/femboys deserve to be considered one of them because they don't consider themselves girls, and that the transsexuals need to stick together and form this sort of separate trans ghetto which is apart from everyone else. I thought the point of the LGBT/trans movement was equality and not segregation. This extremism is usually what attracts Kiwis' attention. Being trans alone is something most Kiwis give a shit about (though that is used to troll those who are indeed lolcows).

I do sympathize with her about her many medication failures for her disorders. Medication often is as bad or worse than the disorders they're supposed to treat, and very often at least in America drugs are all that's offered. Good psychotherapy by good therapists is somewhat of a rarity and is an afterthought. If she wants to get better, she could start by not doing retarded shit like this. I'm sure the average therapist would agree with me there.

 

[sourrascal]

I think that's the gist of his joke. The "debates" in Rick and Morty are Morty whining and hand-wringing over the moral implications of everything while Rick just snidely dismisses whatever he says. This is still more substantive than what passes for debate among millennials.

I don't really remember the debates in the show. But policy debate has been like this for a while. It's not just a millennial thing.

 

[The Dude]

A lot of the lolcows here have either gotten a thread or brought more attention to it by carrying on like petulant children online. I think this is the third such case I came across since Christmas. She thinks arguing more with people who she feels are vile enemies of hers is going to make things better! How does someone come to the conclusion that fighting over Twitter with Kiwis or trolls in general is a logical thing to do? And Twitter is a fucking awful venue for arguments anyway.

She's also one of those overly militant transgender advocates. She and others don't feel male crossdressers/femboys deserve to be considered one of them because they don't consider themselves girls, and that the transsexuals need to stick together and form this sort of separate trans ghetto which is apart from everyone else. I thought the point of the LGBT/trans movement was equality and not segregation. This extremism is usually what attracts Kiwis' attention. Being trans alone is something most Kiwis give a shit about (though that is used to troll those who are indeed lolcows).

I do sympathize with her about her many medication failures for her disorders. Medication often is as bad or worse than the disorders they're supposed to treat, and very often at least in America drugs are all that's offered. Good psychotherapy by good therapists is somewhat of a rarity and is an afterthought. If she wants to get better, she could start by not doing exceptional shit like this. I'm sure the average therapist would agree with me there.

Why are you calling Chris "she"? Dude was born with a dick and most likely still has it. As far as I'm concerned, if you're an uppity, egotistical, smug, sanctimonious she-male who enjoys spreading lies and libel/slander about people/groups/forums you've never met and peddle SJW bullshit, then your "preferred pronouns" can go fuck a running lawn mower. People like Phil, Chris Hall, Greta, and the rest of the Rat King deserve neither our respect nor our compliance with their bullshit.

 

[Field Marshal Crappenberg]

Why are you calling Chris "she"?

When I contribute to a thread on a lolcow, whether or not they're trans, I am fixated on condemning and mocking their ridiculous, self-defeating, and/or abhorrent behavior. I'm not interested in trolling them or demeaning them over irrelevant things. I know why people usually misgender the trans lolcows and they can do as they wish. I just like to focus on why they are their own worst enemy and perhaps have a few laughs over it. Maybe the lolcow will even learn something, maybe (probably) not.

 

[yasscat]

Why are you calling Chris "she"? Dude was born with a dick and most likely still has it. As far as I'm concerned, if you're an uppity, egotistical, smug, sanctimonious she-male who enjoys spreading lies and libel/slander about people/groups/forums you've never met and peddle SJW bullshit, then your "preferred pronouns" can go fuck a running lawn mower. People like Phil, Chris Hall, Greta, and the rest of the Rat King deserve neither our respect nor our compliance with their bullshit.

I like you as a poster, but you need to calm the fuck down, goddamn.

 

[Melkor]

Holy fuck.

Spoiler: big

 

[GS 281]

Chris liked a message on Greta's profile where she called @Thomas Jay Wasserberg an asshole.

https://www.facebook.com/gretagustava/posts/10210258722778638?pnref=story
http://archive.is/PuI8C

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

Why are you calling Chris "she"? Dude was born with a dick and most likely still has it.

Note the double standards. No matter how insane troons are - Some retards will respect their ridiculous pronouns while at the same time laughing about other troons with different bullshit pronouns.

 

[Henry Bemis]

Holy fuck.

Spoiler: big

I will say, Chris does possess titanic debate skills.

They keep smacking into icebergs and sinking.

Dohohohohoho.

 

[Graffiti canvas]

This thread is turning into an autistic slapfight about lolcow pronouns while laughing at other autistic lolcows with pronouns.

Never change, kiwi.

 

[GS 281]

This thread is turning into an autistic slapfight about lolcow pronouns while laughing at other autistic lolcows with pronouns.

Never change, kiwi.

It's not really a slapfight, @The Dude is just a sperg.

 

[talk talk talk]

Holy fuck.

Oh Chris!

The term you are looking for is "hypothesis testing". And no, what you are doing is not hypothesis testing; it's shenanigans. It might be counter-warrants, but you're doing that wrong, too.

s/ An old policy debater who fucking invented most of the tactics you abuse and debated counter-warrants in front of "Wild Bill" Henderson.

 

[The Nameless One]

Holy fuck.

Spoiler: big

So he's defending modern day sophistry and then wondering why people are skeptical that his militant beliefs have any relation at all to the truth.

 

[Jaimas]

I remember giving a Kiwi (I think it was @Cthulhu) tips on how to win debates, what to expect, and how to react.

I can say with outright certainty that Cthulhu would stomp a hole to Ry'leh in Chris's ass and then walk it off given his basic training.

 

[fam]

They're also involved with szaeg/Seth Collins, Phil, I believe richard Jones, the cisphobia group, and Elizabeth Waite the only reason there's not a thread on her is there's not enough hours in the day for all these stupid people.

Seems she enjoys the attention.

 

[Cthulu]

I remember giving a Kiwi (I think it was @Cthulhu) tips on how to win debates, what to expect, and how to react.

I can say with outright certainty that Cthulhu would stomp a hole to Ry'leh in Chris's ass and then walk it off given his basic training.

Actually it was @Anime-Chan but same principle.

 

[randomfarmer]

"KF HAS LITERALLY KILLED TRANNIES!"

I like this. Even though the closest KF has come to a physical altercation with a tranny, it was when Shrek crossed the country with a knife and a crossbow and interrupted Null taking a shit.

 

[Loxiozzz]

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Seems she enjoys the attention.

She only throws small insults, blocks people when she feels frustrated, and gets offended at conversations that had nothing to do with her. If I were a child I would like the attention too.