Charlie Kirk: Aftermath, Gravedancing, and Manhunt

I barely remember this, but wasn't Charlie's comment joking because it was reported that no attack happened? It was likely a consensual gay encounter with the guy and Charlie was alluding to that.
Even the libs memory holed it and ones that have a modicum of intelligence still memory hole it because of how bad it looks, the only people bringing it up are destiny and his fans
 
Even the libs memory holed it and ones that have a modicum of intelligence still memory hole it because of how bad it looks, the only people bringing it up are destiny and his fans
It wasn't even political in P. Pelosi's case. At minimum, it shows how lax California's legal system is towards B&E crimes. By insinuation, it looks like Pelosi's gigolo boyfriend got spurned.
 
Even the libs memory holed it and ones that have a modicum of intelligence still memory hole it because of how bad it looks, the only people bringing it up are destiny and his fans
I thought it was established that it was politically motivated? There's security camera footage of Depape breaking into the houe, so he was never let in. And Pelosi was in his underwear because he was sleeping.
 
I thought it was established that it was politically motivated? There's security camera footage of Depape breaking into the houe, so he was never let in. And Pelosi was in his underwear because he was sleeping.
Yes, we all know that schizos who are radicalized instantly become deradicalized once arrested and explain it to the law as "oops I was radicalized by online conspiracies!" Use your tinfoil brain, bud
 
Sorry to derail. I just cannot believe (i can) the conversation I heard last night. This woman repeated every lie about Charlie with malice and conviction in her voice;

"He WAS. A nazi!"

"He thinks I should be property"

"I dont think he deserved to die but he did die in support of the very guns he said sacrifices should be made for!"

"He was killed by one of his own"


Is there truly no way to reach people? Dropping any semblance of online perspna for a second, I keep wondering how to actually present the truth to people quickly and with proof, but Im just not as quick in the moment as some people.

Civil War is probably actually here and all, but there just HAS to be a way to say the truth so well its irrefutable. Thats also probably the last shred of my youthful idealism gasping one last time as I become an old man.

Does the left think all the hours of video of Charlie is just AI? Planted by Trump to make him look good? What? Or do they know they're lies and just dont care?
Late reply, but the more I think about this, the more I realize it won't be a single knock-down drag-out conversation that pushes anyone over the fence.

Looking at my own inclinations and the inclinations I see around me, I believe it's less singular arguments and more... "societal inertia" that whittles away on people over time, and that's what drags them to one side or another.

That is to say, don't worry if you can't seem to reach someone individually, as being boiled in the pot of water of being surrounded by certain ideas tends to be what actually shifts people one way or the other. People change their own minds, you don't change their own mind for them, and it's that sort of slow burn that, in my experience, actually tends to be what does it.

plus given that they're all sheep, all they need to be convinced is for your opinion to become the overwhelmingly societally dominant one and we seem to be well on our way on that one
 
Stop calling these people fascists. It's weak, misguided, and feeds into their framing. Call them what they are: communists, bolsheviks, and anti-white dysgenic freaks.
I do not choose my words flippantly. Communists had a brutally specific policy and non-negotiable means of treatment for bourgeois capitalists. Fascists had a different approach, collaborating with corporate interests so long as business owners accepted complete state authority and accepted their position as permanent junior partners. Bolsheviks argued for the former but took the form of the latter, and all subsequent socialist regimes to date have been increasingly Left fascist.

This is a key difference that makes the new blatantly Left fascist regimes much more dangerous. Left fascists only pay lip service to Marxist ideology - they very enthusiastically fuck over and exploit workers as soon as the opportunity presents itself, frequently leasing them out to transnational corporations. Far from these corporations resisting the expansion of Left fascist power, they actively bid for opportunities to serve such regimes as labor is kept dirt cheap and ruthlessly managed to the profit of the state and their subject corporate interests.

As to "anti-white dysgenics," that is a non-issue. Left fascists treat commoners like livestock. If they need more serfs they will breed them by force if necessary. The new Left fascism has evolved into a Marxist friendly form of National Socialism, which had already solved that problem in Germany almost a century ago.

You are severely underestimating the ruthlessly efficient nature and strategic racism of Left fascist rule.
 
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What? They're finally correctly connecting the dots to the purposeful linguistic sleight-of-hand, dude. It's necessary to stop this. The radicalization hinges entirely on convincing youth that milquetoast, reality-based stances = Hitler.
Imagine you're a lifelong dyed-in-the-wool /pol/tard with a Stormfront account and one day you're exposed to TikTok videos of lib women and niggers grave dancing Charlie Kirk and in your horror you realize "oh shit, I'm the normie now!"
 
Here's the good news about PR wars v. Real wars. PR war never matters if you're winning the real war.
Even better.

"Of course, the Latino vote is large and diverse—spanning backgrounds, geography, and socioeconomics. Still, Trump made gains across the board. Of particular note, Trump won 47 percent of votes among Latino men, according to AP projections. He also produced double digit gains in majority-Hispanic counties along the Mexico border in Texas and in Southern Florida."
How Latinos Voted in the 2024 U.S. Presidential Election

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  • In his third run for president in 2024, Donald Trump defeated Kamala Harris by 1.5 percentage points overall, winning 312 Electoral College votes and the national popular vote for the first time.
  • Among Hispanic voters, Trump battled to near parity in 2024 (51% Harris, 48% Trump) after losing to Joe Biden 61%-36% in 2020.
  • Trump won 15% of Black voters – up from 8% four years earlier.
Behind Trump’s 2024 Victory, a More Racially and Ethnically Diverse Voter Coalition

Left fascists are particularly nervous about losing the Hispanic vote, and are making an effort at university campuses and through community groups to promote Hispanic youth hatred and racism, but the character of legal immigrants runs contrary to their narrative. Far from viewing Trump as racist, they approve of illegal immigrants being punished and for support to their many struggling small businesses in the form of lower taxes. Many have experience with Left fascist criminality in their home countries and recoil from their increasing presence in the Democrat Party. Most are far more religiously observant and socially conservative than American conservatives. Many of these Hispanics see their political home as among the Christian Right.

This is a big reason why Left fascists are doing everything in their power to promote racist hate against "whites" and turn Christian churches. This is also why Charlie Kirk was such a unique threat and had to be disposed of.
 
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You are completely fucking retarded.
I am completely fucking right. Go engage with these people and see it for yourself.


That said, there are problems ....

Just because the Farms aren't plagued with the censorious rule of normie net doesn't mean you're no longer expected to present your arguments maturely.
This is a lot nicer than I'm accustomed to. I also very much prefer the lack of censorship.

I'm a math guy and a fan of James Burnham. If I'm wrong, the evidence will reveal that - but I'm not wrong. Insults and abuse often reveal vested interests and are just so much additional data to evaluate.

Besides. He does have a point. If the Chinese workers finally get completely fed up, this Left fascist empire could go very bad very fast. That nightmare scenario might help explain why the CCP has become so hysterically brutal.
 
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Then set up a situation, provoke the Left fascists to an emotional outburst, then blast 'em.

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Problems arise with the optics. There's a reason Left fascists recruit from college kids.

This is a long game problem. We've let Left fascists take over education. Now they have to be forced out.


Thank Colbert and Kimmel. Let them do their good work. Their ass monologues are a great help.
During the Summer of Love, I went to one of the local protests to see what it was all about. A number of people there for the protest were genuine, and naively there in good faith: they truly believed they were protesting against excessive police force that undervalued black lives. Antifa showed up too, and deliberately took advantage of the genuine protestors, using them as meat shields, as they agitated things and turned the protest into a riot.

I managed to escape the crowd and get the fuck out of there before the protest completely turned into a riot, but on my way home, the evil of what I had seen stuck with me. I could not escape a line of thought: that antifa was going to successfully bait the police into responding with force, and antifa would make sure said police response killed someone innocent.

That didn't happen, fortunately, but for the next two weeks, "Four Dead in Ohio" was on my playlist, a lot. Those were a depressing and anxious two weeks.
 
From what I'm seeing, the hype has died down, the right has moved on, and now they are back to passively taking it up the ass while the left plans their next kill. Couldn't even use the momentum to get an inch against H1Bs. Just more of their money going to Ukraine and Israel to fight for global gay race communism. L. I expected at least one act of reprisal by now. I suppose I thought too much of them.
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Yep because the former is counter productive and autistic sperging/venting and the other is actually effective.
The left is pretty pathetic when it comes to violence and oftentimes their attempts are laughable.
But at the end of the day finding someone's hot takes they said about black people and linking it to a public profile is more effective.
You don't make yourself a martyr if you got fired for calling someone a nigger or being a violent loser.
You do get made a martyr when someone offs you because they don't like your views.
Say what you want cancel culture works, and people just hated that they had to suffer the same consequences as the Maga now.
Again fucking up a right winger and trying to torch their house during 2020 was bad optics. Getting a chud fired because he made a Floyd meme that can be spun.
Yeah, the right will never learn.
I dunno their right doing more than bitching on Twitter and the number of leftists and disgusting people fired for grave dancing honestly is okay.
Maybe im a tranny chasing fag, maybe I'm a big cringe worthy right wing homo but honestly even with the Jimmy Kimmel nonsense the right still looks better here.
 
This is a vice of Democracy, one which Russia and China do not share.
The biggest flaw with autocracies is their haste creates waste. I would rather live under a system that's concerned with playing the long game and filtering out shitty policy than some retard that fervently insists on killing all the sparrows.
 
You do get made a martyr when someone offs you because they don't like your views.
Sorry but I don't think waiting around to be murdered is a good strategy. Caring that much about optics is cringe. Your life is a lot more valuable that the current jobs of a handful of lunatics.
 
The biggest flaw with autocracies is their haste creates waste. I would rather live under a system that's concerned with playing the long game and filtering out shitty policy than some retard that fervently insists on killing all the sparrows.
Democracy only cares about the next four years.
 
It's how the Overton window shifts. You ever see this?
Yeah, I've seen some of it but not examined it in depth. It's kind of crazy to think that so many of my opinions and values have been deliberately shaped by the media since my childhood. Heterosexual relationships have also been completely manipulated, from the normalisation of blended families, serial monogamy, promiscuity, the idea that women are unfulfilled by motherhood alone/at all. Gay best friends were a must have accessory for all fashionable young women.

Even a lot of 'wholesome' family shows had anti-family messaging. The Brady Bunch made blended families appear to have nothing but positives. Family Ties promoted the sixties counterculture movement as having been 100% good and wholesome. Full House was completely normalising the idea of kids doing great with multiple dads. I know a huge amount of these set ups are because a tv show has to have some sort of unique selling point; Ordinary Family living Ordinary Life, isn't much of a hook in a competitive market and even if you did centre it on a nuclear family, you had to have something different about them, like Mom goes to work while Dad stays home! But overall, the end result was a western population that stopped seeing the full value of traditional households and that other set-ups were, at best - less than ideal, but in general - actively damaging.
 
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Kirk's wife makes me angry. Telling people she forgives the man who just took her kid's father away disgusts me on a fundamental level. If someone ever kills your family member and you tell people you forgive them and to turn the other cheek they killed the wrong family member. Those kids are going to have to live without a father and you can bet when they grow up someone will bully them with footage of their Dad expiring. We live in a sick society where the response to a family member being killed is forgiveness instead of swift and brutal revenge.

Yeah, I've seen some of it but not examined it in depth. It's kind of crazy to think that so many of my opinions and values have been deliberately shaped by the media since my childhood. Heterosexual relationships have also been completely manipulated, from the normalisation of blended families, serial monogamy, promiscuity, the idea that women are unfulfilled by motherhood alone/at all. Gay best friends were a must have accessory for all fashionable young women.

Even a lot of 'wholesome' family shows had anti-family messaging. The Brady Bunch made blended families appear to have nothing but positives. Family Ties promoted the sixties counterculture movement as having been 100% good and wholesome. Full House was completely normalising the idea of kids doing great with multiple dads. I know a huge amount of these set ups are because a tv show has to have some sort of unique selling point; Ordinary Family living Ordinary Life, isn't much of a hook in a competitive market and even if you did centre it on a nuclear family, you had to have something different about them, like Mom goes to work while Dad stays home! But overall, the end result was a western population that didn't stopped seeing the full value of traditional households and that other set-ups were, at best - less than ideal, but in general - actively damaging.
 
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