Charlie Kirk: Aftermath, Gravedancing, and Manhunt

I hate to say it the joos
Clearly you don't hate to say it. But I'll give you a chance: you come up with a theory that comports with this evidence (other than one of those battery bombs that the isrealis scattered throughout Lebanon being in Kirk's wireless microphone) and I'll concede that you aren't a pro-joo bot:

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Sorry to derail. I just cannot believe (i can) the conversation I heard last night. This woman repeated every lie about Charlie with malice and conviction in her voice;

"He WAS. A nazi!"

"He thinks I should be property"

"I dont think he deserved to die but he did die in support of the very guns he said sacrifices should be made for!"

"He was killed by one of his own"


Is there truly no way to reach people? Dropping any semblance of online perspna for a second, I keep wondering how to actually present the truth to people quickly and with proof, but Im just not as quick in the moment as some people.

Civil War is probably actually here and all, but there just HAS to be a way to say the truth so well its irrefutable. Thats also probably the last shred of my youthful idealism gasping one last time as I become an old man.

Does the left think all the hours of video of Charlie is just AI? Planted by Trump to make him look good? What? Or do they know they're lies and just dont care?

I share your frustration, but as with any serious problem, there are no quick and easy solutions. You have to remember that these people have been conditioned for damn near their whole lives to only accept information from certain "approved" sources. These so-called "expert sources" have conditioned them to only accept information that will conform to their own preconceived ideology and will fit within their own narrative framework, even if it makes no logical sense and indeed can even be contradictory. It's like a Pavlovian response, basically brainwashing. They will reject irrefutable fact as outright lies. There's no easy way to overcome that kind of lifelong mental conditioning.

And they've probably never watched a single one of Charlie's videos. Or if they have, it's only been short out-of-context clips within a video aimed at attacking Charlie from a creator they are ideologically aligned with. The "approved sources" tell them that Charlie was an evil, Fascist, bigot, ista-phobe Nazi who didn't care about children getting gunned down because the Second Amendment means those sacrifices are A-OK. The official source told them what to think, that information conforms to their ideological programing, so the Pavlovian Response is to believe it 100% and viciously attack anyone who tries to tell them any different and discard the opposing information entirely.

You have to remember the Left is basically a cult now. They are using the exact same tactics cults use to enthral their followers and keep them loyal. They either need to come around to the fact they're being used and lied to all on their own, or they need dedicated reprograming to overcome it just as rescued cultists do.
 
I’ve always wondered why so many wealthy people support communism and hate capitalism or the free market. Is it because they don’t want to share the wealth? The irony. It’s like they really can’t stand the idea of anyone else thriving and they know under communism everyone suffers equally unless you come from a connected and wealthy family which they do
"I wish I was rich enough to be a socialist" is a fun line when trust fund hippies preach their Luxury Beliefs. One answer to this seeming contradiction can be found in Bertrand de Jouvenel's "High+Low vs. Middle" formulation.

Basically, elites' power & influence is often attached to the State, and an independent middle class is the most direct threat to that. So elites encourage dependence on the State from the lower classes, and weaponize their resentment against the middle. "Liquidate the kulaks" and turn a 3 class society into a 2 class one, where their power is more secure.
 
From what I'm seeing, the hype has died down, the right has moved on, and now they are back to passively taking it up the ass while the left plans their next kill. Couldn't even use the momentum to get an inch against H1Bs. Just more of their money going to Ukraine and Israel to fight for global gay race communism. L. I expected at least one act of reprisal by now. I suppose I thought too much of them.
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"I wish I was rich enough to be a socialist" is a fun line when trust fund hippies preach their Luxury Beliefs. One answer to this seeming contradiction can be found in Bertrand de Jouvenel's "High+Low vs. Middle" formulation.

Basically, elites' power & influence is often attached to the State, and an independent middle class is the most direct threat to that. So elites encourage dependence on the State from the lower classes, and weaponize their resentment against the middle. "Liquidate the kulaks" and turn a 3 class society into a 2 class one, where their power is more secure.

I find that a very interesting theory, but my question would be: on what basis would their hold on power be more secure in a two-class society without the middle class buffer?

I can understand the elite wanting to redirect the justified mass frustration this kind of over-accumulation generates to the middle class, as a kind of scapegoat, but once they're... "liquidated", or whatever, under this model - how are elites safer? They get to keep more of the profits in the short-term, sure, but in the longer one they seem much more vulnerable. The middle class aren't just patsies/fall guys so much as they are a physical buffer, so in this scenario, now who is acting as their enforcers and/or PR wing to prevent the same masses that just presumably obliterated the middle class from turning directly on said elites??

As far as I can see, an ideologically captured middle class is kind of essential to maintaining the whole system of circulation we currently have.
 
Does the left think all the hours of video of Charlie is just AI? Planted by Trump to make him look good? What? Or do they know they're lies and just dont care?
Other posts have made good points on this, but part of the issue is they aren't accepting evidence of anything because they already have a preconceived notion of what is true and right, even though they didn't get there because of evidence convincing them.

The bottom line is they aren't arguing to learn, or be convinced, or really even to convince YOU that you are wrong. Any argument merely serves to make them feel more correct, moral, just, and empathetic because they can point at YOU and your beliefs to feel better about themselves and their own beliefs. Then never engage in a way that is constructive because they can't and critically don't want to.
 
From what I'm seeing, the hype has died down, the right has moved on, and now they are back to passively taking it up the ass while the left plans their next kill. Couldn't even use the momentum to get an inch against H1Bs. Just more of their money going to Ukraine and Israel to fight for global gay race communism. L. I expected at least one act of reprisal by now. I suppose I thought too much of them.
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Oh yeah I forgot the crystal meme. We should bring that back.
 
From what I'm seeing, the hype has died down, the right has moved on, and now they are back to passively taking it up the ass while the left plans their next kill. Couldn't even use the momentum to get an inch against H1Bs. Just more of their money going to Ukraine and Israel to fight for global gay race communism. L. I expected at least one act of reprisal by now. I suppose I thought too much of them.
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we need a glownigger react sticker
 
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Apparently, Pokemon wants to sue the US Government. 😕
Do these retards not understand that fair use applies here and that the lawsuit would be flavorous? Also, I don't think there's a law on the books that allows people to sue the federal government for copyright infringement, therefore Sovereign Immunity would apply.

Edit: I found this: 28 U.S.C. § 1498(b)
However, from what I can tell a meme created by a fed would fall under work product and is thus exempt and can't be sued over.
 
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why do troons love YTP?…
The real answer is that they have are obsessed with anything that is “Le old Internet” and have a superficial understanding of what the Internet use to be. If any of these people were sent back in time they would cry and subsequently hang them selves after realizing it’s not le quirky webcore fruit aero tranny paradise but instead a place where you can call someone a faggot freely.
 
The bottom line is they aren't arguing to learn, or be convinced, or really even to convince YOU that you are wrong. Any argument merely serves to make them feel more correct, moral, just, and empathetic because they can point at YOU and your beliefs to feel better about themselves and their own beliefs. Then never engage in a way that is constructive because they can't and critically don't want to.
Yeah, the right will never learn.
 
Trump doing nothing for two weeks straight in the face of the biggest US political assassination in decades is more demoralizing than anything I or anyone else could say and I'm sure you know that.
America doesn't have an absolute monarch in charge. He's said shit that matters but effectively his hands are tied by the system he operates under. We saw this happen in real time as the the B.B.B took 5 months to sign, and how random judges could impede his illegal immigration efforts. There's a ton of shit he literally cannot do because of the separation of powers and laws. Him saying he "hates his enemies" and doesn't "forgive them" is somewhat emblematic of the frustrations we all operate under. We can despise the Left all we want but we still abide by and want to abide by the rule of law (state, natural, or God's). It's ultimately why right-wing rhetoric, no matter how hard it goes, doesn't metastasise into action, yet it does for Leftists because they don't abide by natural or God's law and the law of the state is only legitimate depending on who's in charge. Due to the Right's confines, the response times are slow but the results are profound because it usually entails longer-lasting, more impactful change, for better or worse. The only reason we saw a large shift in the right's capabilities these past 40 years was due to the advent of Neoconservatives, who advocate for "stability" (maintaining the status quo, even one set by the Left) and law-based morality (e.g. State's laws = moral) rather than fixing issues left to fester or created by the Left.

The Right being able to compare themselves to the Left on response times is demoralising because the left appears to say, "Fuck the law," and then actually do something that specifically fucks over their enemies and do it quick too. IMO the actual response may take a while to manifest but once it does the Left can't really do anything about it. It's why for all of BLM's bloviating and rioting after George Floyd, nothing of substance came from it (except even more funny bodycams). The closest we've seen to the right-wing acting like the left-wing politically is the first few months of Trump's presidency when he and DOGE immediately cut USAID and banned trannies from the military on the drop of a dime.

The Left creates/sets the precedents the Right then reacts to, which ends up screwing them in the long-run. This is because they can no longer use that method of attack anymore as it's been exposed, or the Right passes laws that specifically target said thing and now it's off the table forever. But still, due to abiding by the law, the actual reaction and subsequent action sees a huge ass gap (in some cases you're looking at actual decades). The precedent for this shit is everywhere by the way, at least in America and Western Europe. The politicians of the political right-wing in the UK have only just now more or less acknowledged censorship and lack of free speech being a problem and we're still looking at 2030s at the earliest to see that finally get fixed. America's had major illegal immigration issues since the 90s but now it's taking until the 2020s to get dealt with.

TLDR: The right-wing (or their politicians at least) are fucking slow.
 
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