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feedtheoctopus dijo:
Christianity is a gutter religion that uses fear of hell to induce a pathetic, servile, slave morality in the populace that is exploited by the powerful.
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Meh, I have met far more atheists who were slaves to their Chinese cartoons then Christians who are "slaves to the powerful". They're just, regular people, for the most part. More productive members of society then outspoken atheists, on the average.
 
Catholic is the best religion to claim if you're in the US military. Superiors aren't allowed to bother you during important times such as mass, because of separation of church and state policies. They specifically plan to not do anything important during those times, but if you haven't claimed Catholic there's nothing saying they can't just tell everyone sitting around in the barracks while others are at mass to go scrub toilets. If you say you're Catholic though, you can avoid all that.
 
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Satan dijo:
Meh, I have met far more atheists who were slaves to their Chinese cartoons then Christians who are "slaves to the powerful". They're just, regular people, for the most part. More productive members of society then outspoken atheists, on the average.
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If you build your identity around not believing in something you're kind of a doo doo head
 
Un Platano dijo:
Catholic is the best religion to claim if you're in the US military. Superiors aren't allowed to bother you during important times such as mass, because of separation of church and state. policies They specifically plan to not do anything important during those times, but if you haven't claimed Catholic there's nothing saying they can't just tell everyone sitting around in the barracks while others are at mass to go scrub toilets. If you say you're Catholic though, you can avoid all that.
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Damn, maybe I should've joined the military?
 
I'm triggered by the name of this thread being misspelled.
 
I find the Catholic church to be very immoral and eager to force itself onto others. Not too terribly different from most other religions. Especially don't like their rampant kiddy diddling.
 
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I was raised Catholic and went to Catholic school so that's my only religious experience from 'the inside'. I found it all a bit weird from a young age and especially hated confession. It was sometimes with our main priest but often with the priests from Africa that I guess were on a priest holiday/exchange or something. They were hardcore.

One in particular scared the shit out of me. We started confessions from the age of seven so I was only eight or so when I was shut in a room with him. I was really shy but said hello and he immediately bellowed, "WHAT DO YOU SAY?" He kept repeating that over and over. I'd forgotten I'm meant to start with, "Forgive me Father, for I have sinned." He was not chilled about it. Then he had me list all my sins but I was a good 8 year old kid and all I could come up with was, "I took the tv remote from my sister." He wanted more so I made stuff up like 'being rude to friends', then felt I'd go to hell because I was lying in confession to a priest. He then made me say twenty Hail Marys to make up for my sins.
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niggers are like savage animals, of course he would pressure you to confess more since where he's from every 8 yo nigger is stealing and trying to rape their sister.
 
It's no better or worse than any other organized religion, but in a roundabout way, it's had a large influence on my life.

My Mom came from a Catholic family, and her miserable experience with the religion (starting with school and ending with being told by a Priest that giving birth to a severely premature baby that was clinging to life in an incubator was God's punishment for marrying a divorcee) is why she decided that If I wanted any part of it, I'd have to do it myself.

She'd drive me to church if I wanted to go, but she wasn't hanging around, so I grew up without any formalized spiritual education. It thus lost my family through (admittedly low-grade) abuse.

Inflexible dogma is a great way to make sure people will abandon you once they have even a glimmer of something better than living short and hard.
 
Are we talking about the Catholic church as an institution, or the beliefs that Catholics hold? The church has a mountain of issues going back to its inception, but the beliefs intrinsic to the faith are at their heart good (in my opinion, but then I'm a filthy papist, so I'm biased.) The question is, can we separate the actions of the church as an entity with the beliefs it was founded on? Should we even listen to our religious leaders, if we know that there is corruption at any point in the system? Doesn't that prove that God is not the way, since there's evil in his own domain? The failings of the Catholic church to adapt to the modern age as well as the rampant abuse and greed in the system makes it easier for believers to turn away and take on a more individual approach to worship.
 
I gave it a shot, but I actually can't think of a period of history where I can say "Whew, good thing the Catholic Church existed then!". I can think of a few where I say "Man, shame the Catholic Church had to fuck that up for everybody" though. At every avenue for human progress, one organisation has been routinely attempting to hinder and suppress us. Everything from science, to ethics, to education, to vaccines. At every step, they've been trying to hold things back from the rest of us.

Hell they were even against coffee for a while, just because Islam found it first. (Then the Pope drank it and changed his mind)

As for Catholics themselves, they aren't any more good/bad than anybody else. However they are victims IMO. Just like Jonestown, being brainwashed into thinking it's okay doesn't make it okay. And I don't mean this in the 'All religious people are victims tiptiptip' manner, I mean the organisation is conspiring against the faithful, the abuse is on purpose.

That said, the 2017 edition of The Church is probably the best ever. They've given up on trying to spread AIDS, they picked a leader who isn't actually a criminal, maybe the next thousand years will be different.
 
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