✨ Celebrity Cassandra Clare / Judith Rumelt - 47 year old Harry Potter incest fanfic writer, professional cyberbully

[For The Internet]

Don't want to hijack the thread, but even though I feel similarly about a lot of the changes D&D have made, I feel like most of the problem is that they ran out of source material, which is a problem GRRM could easily remedy by writing the other goddamn books.

Sorry for the OT ahead. Spoilered it so as not to derail the thread any further:

Spoiler: stuff

TWOW was over halfway done by the time they wrote the scripts for season 6. They did actually incorporate Arya's 'Mercy' chapter into her season 6 arc, plus George has given plenty of outlines to them. There was enough material to work with. The problem is more that they've either killed characters too early (like Ser Barristan, who has at least 2 already known Winds chapters), or they've left out POV characters from the show (like Arianne and Victarion) or they've completely changed the entire plotline (no FAegon-related story, no Lady Stoneheart, no Quentyn or Dornish Master Plot), prohibiting them from using the existing material.

I personally think that George got kind of screwed over by the unexpected success of the GoT show. If you read Not A Blog it's very clear George's passion is Wild Cards. He posts about it constantly. I think it's pretty obvious that ASOIAF was never a passion project to him, and what he really loves is Wild Cards and encouraging up-and-coming writers. It must suck that you're forced to work on something you don't really love because everyone else in the world loves it, especially when those same people give zero fucks about the series you're actually passionate about. No wonder it takes him forever. If ASOIAF was his passion project it wouldn't take him 5+ years per book. The pressure from fans who want the books nownownow doesn't really help either.

D&D could have asked him for some guidance, but it's pretty obvious they think their version of Westeros is superior. These are the guys who said ' Creatively it made sense to us, because we wanted it to happen'

Sorry for that weapons grade tism. Back OT:

Has anyone seen both the movie and the show? I watched the movie a while ago and thought it was incredibly derivative and remarkably boring. I can't really imagine it stretched out into a TV series. I don't think I could handle even one season, let alone two.
It's pretty obvious that she can't write anything without stealing ideas. She's kind of like a more successful, morbidly obese version of Chris, where everything she comes up with is based on an existing property.

 

[oasys]

Don't want to hijack the thread, but

Another homophobic act by Kiwi Farms user Broken Pussy.

Has anyone seen both the movie and the show? I watched the movie a while ago and thought it was incredibly derivative and remarkably boring. I can't really imagine it stretched out into a TV series. I don't think I could handle even one season, let alone two.

All of it's rubbish. Like most everything in the teen fantasy genre, the franchise owes its existence to eye candy. Actually I'd even argue that a major reason the movie did so terribly compared to the show is that its male lead was the ugliest motherfucker in the world.

 

[For The Internet]

Another homophobic act by Kiwi Farms user Broken Pussy.



All of it's rubbish. Like most everything in the teen fantasy genre, the franchise owes its existence to eye candy. Actually I'd even argue that a major reason the movie did so terribly compared to the show is that its male lead was the ugliest motherfucker in the world.

Yes! The lead in the movie was bizarrely unattractive. I've seen him in other stuff and he's kind of weird looking in those projects but in City of Bones he was fugly throughout. I'm not sure if it's the actor or the cinematography (probably both).

 

[Broken Pussy]

Another homophobic act by Kiwi Farms user Broken Pussy.



All of it's rubbish. Like most everything in the teen fantasy genre, the franchise owes its existence to eye candy. Actually I'd even argue that a major reason the movie did so terribly compared to the show is that its male lead was the ugliest motherfucker in the world.

I assumed you were exaggerating, because we do that here, but holy fuck, that dude is really unattractive. He looks like what would happen if someone beat the hell out of Jonathan Rhys Meyers with an ugly stick, and then, while he was still in his weakened state, they bleached his hair and gave him tuberculosis.

 

[swingbatta]

Another homophobic act by Kiwi Farms user Broken Pussy.



All of it's rubbish. Like most everything in the teen fantasy genre, the franchise owes its existence to eye candy. Actually I'd even argue that a major reason the movie did so terribly compared to the show is that its male lead was the ugliest motherfucker in the world.

If you're the type to like weird British faces, he's not bad. But weird British faces don't sell to thirsty 16-year-old girls, especially in shitty blond wigs and bondage gear.

Though I'm not sure the new Jace is much better. He duckfaces harder than Kylie Jenner.

 

[Serena Vanderbooben]

Matthew Daddario >>>>>>>> That weird faced Brit.

As for Ms. Clare, I am not surprised at all by her behavior.

Btw according to Google, she is Jewish and that her one of her Jewish relatives was involved in the film industry. (shocker). That may explain why she has some protection and more chances given to her as opposed to say that Divergent author.

 

[Elwood P. Dowd]

I guess I'm kind of necroing this thread, sorry. But this amused me. This video goes through ol' CC's fixation with keeping it in the family, West Virginia style.

This video is about three times longer than it has to be, but was still a bit of an eyeopener. Somehow the whole incest subtext of the books got away from me, buried under bad dialog and ridiculous action.

Also, If you want to read some truly insane gibberish, here's an entry on it on her Tumblr, from four years ago.

http://cassandraclare.tumblr.com/post/68288387799/on-incest-in-literaturetmi

It is featured heavily in the video.

 

[Bunny]

They put a little incest into the show, but then cut it off really quick which I was thankful for because I am not here for incest. I'm not sure how the fandom reacted. If that's why they put an end to it so quickly because of backlash or what. I mean there must be some fans who like the incest but I think the show fandom and the book fandom are very different. Either way, Cassandra needs Jesus.

 

[Daughter of Cernunnos]

I guess I'm kind of necroing this thread, sorry. But this amused me. This video goes through ol' CC's fixation with keeping it in the family, West Virginia style.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=MdeVQqIsgi8
This video is about three times longer than it has to be, but was still a bit of an eyeopener. Somehow the whole incest subtext of the books got away from me, buried under bad dialog and ridiculous action.

Also, If you want to read some truly insane gibberish, here's an entry on it on her Tumblr, from four years ago.

http://cassandraclare.tumblr.com/post/68288387799/on-incest-in-literaturetmi

It is featured heavily in the video.

It does, however, treat on the topic of incest, so I guess if the question is “Why write about incest as a theme at all?” — well, there are many answers.

Her thinly veiled animosity towards teen writers was always amusing to me. She gives resentful "advice" to teen writers on Livejournal and links some open letter to teen writers that is just a lot of hating on them. I'm not saying most teen writers are good but they are only children without fully formed brains and should just be encouraged to do something innocuous like writing or art instead of doing drugs and being a thug. I think this hatred in her heart stems from having a writing style that never matured and sounding very much like a teen trying to be "deep" herself. She sees teen Harry Potter fangirls as competition. Only with her Mary Sue insert Clary; she is too pure for this world. Not like other gurls!
https://cassandraclare.livejournal.com/21613.html http://archive.fo/9IfHc
https://whatever.scalzi.com/2006/04/27/10-things-teenage-writers-should-know-about-writing/ http://archive.is/8YjKR

 

[For The Internet]

I guess I'm kind of necroing this thread, sorry. But this amused me. This video goes through ol' CC's fixation with keeping it in the family, West Virginia style.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=MdeVQqIsgi8
This video is about three times longer than it has to be, but was still a bit of an eyeopener. Somehow the whole incest subtext of the books got away from me, buried under bad dialog and ridiculous action.

Also, If you want to read some truly insane gibberish, here's an entry on it on her Tumblr, from four years ago.

http://cassandraclare.tumblr.com/post/68288387799/on-incest-in-literaturetmi

It is featured heavily in the video.

I've watched that girl's entire series about CC and the books and while they're generally longer than necessary they do a good job of explaining the issues that come up in the books. I haven't read the books so I appreciated a summary of the content.

 

[FitBitch]

Sometimes I wonder how, in the age of social media making interacting with fans more accessible, do these kinds of people retain a following?

 

[Polexia Aphrodisia]

Her thinly veiled animosity towards teen writers was always amusing to me. She gives resentful "advice" to teen writers on Livejournal and links some open letter to teen writers that is just a lot of hating on them. I'm not saying most teen writers are good but they are only children without fully formed brains and should just be encouraged to do something innocuous like writing or art instead of doing drugs and being a thug. I think this hatred in her heart stems from having a writing style that never matured and sounding very much like a teen trying to be "deep" herself. She sees teen Harry Potter fangirls as competition. Only with her Mary Sue insert Clary; she is too pure for this world. Not like other gurls!
https://cassandraclare.livejournal.com/21613.html http://archive.fo/9IfHc
https://whatever.scalzi.com/2006/04/27/10-things-teenage-writers-should-know-about-writing/ http://archive.is/8YjKR

Lord, what a cunt. She writes like a teenager, she should realize that her writing isn't much better than the schlock that your average Creative Writing Club member submits to Archive Of Our Own or Fanfiction Dot Net.

 

[MW 002]

Her thinly veiled animosity towards teen writers was always amusing to me. She gives resentful "advice" to teen writers on Livejournal and links some open letter to teen writers that is just a lot of hating on them. I'm not saying most teen writers are good but they are only children without fully formed brains and should just be encouraged to do something innocuous like writing or art instead of doing drugs and being a thug. I think this hatred in her heart stems from having a writing style that never matured and sounding very much like a teen trying to be "deep" herself. She sees teen Harry Potter fangirls as competition. Only with her Mary Sue insert Clary; she is too pure for this world. Not like other gurls!
https://cassandraclare.livejournal.com/21613.html http://archive.fo/9IfHc
https://whatever.scalzi.com/2006/04/27/10-things-teenage-writers-should-know-about-writing/ http://archive.is/8YjKR

I guess she doesn’t realize that most teen writers tend to drop the bad habits that she still has, well into her 40s.

I think she’s worried about them stealing her thunder in the YA department.

 

[Viridian]

Wow, this thread really brings me back. I remember reading about the first allegations of CC committing plagarism and her various BNF nutty stunts on good ol' Fandom Wank. She hasn't aged well.

I guess she doesn’t realize that most teen writers tend to drop the bad habits that she still has, well into her 40s.

I think she’s worried about them stealing her thunder in the YA department.

That's my interpretation of her behavior too. Not that she has a lot of said thunder anymore. She knows she got lucky in being able to make something resembling a career out of selling her name-swapped self-insert fanfic stories. CC wouldn't stand a chance in the market against an author with a decent amount of actual talent, or even just someone who manages to write a book based on the right YA trend at the right time to explode into popularity.

 

[MW 002]

So I watched through the Authentic Observer’s video series on the Shadowhunters series, and hot damn it’s a lot worse than I remembered it being. Apparently Clare was virtue signalling throughout her series in order to try to stay relevant.

 

[SnarkySperg]

Hi. Just found this thread. Don't have much to say but I found this and wanted to know your thoughts on it.

http://cassandraclare.tumblr.com/post/103773689029/hey-cassie-i-know-tmi-was-a-harry-potter

I don't buy it for a second and if she does she's delusional.

 

[oasys]

Hi. Just found this thread. Don't have much to say but I found this and wanted to know your thoughts on it.

http://cassandraclare.tumblr.com/post/103773689029/hey-cassie-i-know-tmi-was-a-harry-potter

I don't buy it for a second and if she does she's delusional.

Lol yea horse shite.

The first paragraph comes off just seething with jealousy at other authors.

"But I could not possibly have turned the fanfic into anything publishable without stripping out the magic system and replacing it, changing the location, making all the characters completely different, changing their relationships, and changing the plot-"

So that's exactly what she did for aspects of it.

Because the fanfiction story I wrote (“Let Us Defeat Voldemort, Using Wands”) would not make any sense outside the realm of the Harry Potter universe.

Case in point, her book does include "Let Us Defeat Valentine, Using Wands."

She reused passages of her Draco backstory for her "original" character's backstory, you really can't argue with copy + paste and trying to do so comes off both bitter and delusional.

 

[Vorhtbame]

Hi. Just found this thread. Don't have much to say but I found this and wanted to know your thoughts on it.

http://cassandraclare.tumblr.com/post/103773689029/hey-cassie-i-know-tmi-was-a-harry-potter

I don't buy it for a second and if she does she's delusional.

That person was asking a legitimate question and looking for support, and she bitched them out. That's what I'm seeing.

 

[ZG 241]

Hi. Just found this thread. Don't have much to say but I found this and wanted to know your thoughts on it.

http://cassandraclare.tumblr.com/post/103773689029/hey-cassie-i-know-tmi-was-a-harry-potter

I don't buy it for a second and if she does she's delusional.

because none of the characters in Mortal Instruments are based on any characters in any fanfiction I ever wrote.

Except for where her skinny Mary Sue Clary is based on her fanfic Ginny, and the ugly dude with blond hair is based on the ugly dude from HP she infamously rewrote as hot and in leather pants. And for such a virtue signaler, all of her characters are skinny and hot (she's a lot worse where diverse representation is concerned than Rowling) . You'd think someone of her dimension would throw a sympathetic fatty in there somewhere.

 

[MW 002]

Except for where her skinny Mary Sue Clary is based on her fanfic Ginny, and the ugly dude with blond hair is based on the ugly dude from HP she infamously rewrote as hot and in leather pants. And for such a virtue signaler, all of her characters are skinny and hot (she's a lot worse where diverse representation is concerned than Rowling) . You'd think someone of her dimension would throw a sympathetic fatty in there somewhere.

You know, without fan fiction she wouldn’t even have any kind of name for herself so you would think she’d be a little bit more humble when answering these kinds of questions.

I’m willing to bet that without those Harry Potter rica she wrote, Mortal Instruments wouldn’t have sold close to what it did since most books tend to only sell 3000 copies within the first five years of release.