⏳ Historical Cartel de Medellin/Medellin Cartel - De una antigua organización narcoterrorista, a un grupo de dramacows, estafadores, hipocritas, A-loggers entre si y sobrexplotadores de la imagen de un narco muerto

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CARTEL DE MEDELLIN (1975-1993)

El Cartel de Medellin fue la organización narcoterrorista mas poderosa de la Colombia de los 80's y una de las mas despiadadas y sangrientas de todo el planeta, logrando superar a varias otras organizaciones en cuestión de letalidad y narcotráfico, actos que hoy en día es imitado por otras organizaciones. Su nombre deriva de la ciudad homónima, capital del departamento de Antioquia, donde la mayoría de los miembros se originaron, siendo su lider y el mas famoso, Pablo Emilio Escobar Gaviria. Su legado aun resuena tanto en Colombia como en el mundo, siendo una organización muy usada en el entretenimiento como narconovelas, series y hasta referencias en la animación, aun a mas de 30 años de su disolución, el 3 de diciembre de 1993 con la muerte de Escobar en Medellin, Antioquia.


The Medellin Cartel was the most powerful narco-terrorist organization in Colombia in the 1980s and one of the most ruthless and bloody on the planet, surpassing several other organizations in terms of lethality and drug trafficking, acts imitated by other organizations today. Its name derives from the city of the same name, capital of the department of Antioquia, where most of its members originated, with its leader and most famous being Pablo Emilio Escobar Gaviria. Its legacy still resonates both in Colombia and around the world, and the organization is widely used in entertainment, such as narco-novelas, series, and even animated films, even more than 30 years after its dissolution on December 3, 1993, with Escobar's death in Medellin, Antioquia.
Actualidad de sus ex miembros y asociados

Tras la muerte de Pablo Escobar, muchos de los miembros estaban arrestados, asesinados o murieron de causas naturales, de los cuales, solo pocos pudieron sobrevivir hasta la actualidad, logrando sacar libros, salir en documentales y hasta dar asesoría en telenovelas que incluyen la historia alrededor de Pablo Escobar. Pero esto derivó a que muchos vieran a estos de personas temidas e interesantes, a unos payasos y peleoneros mediáticos, dignos de un show de Laura Bozzo. A continuación algunos casos del ayer y hoy:

After Pablo Escobar's death, many of the members were arrested, murdered, or died of natural causes. Only a few of these members survived to the present day, managing to publish books, appear in documentaries, and even provide consulting services on soap operas that feature the story surrounding Pablo Escobar. However, this led many to view these individuals as feared and interesting, as clowns and media brawlers worthy of a Maury show. Below are some cases from yesterday and today:

Jhon Jairo Velásquez Vásquez/Popeye/Alias JJ/El General de la Mafia
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Jhon Jairo Velasquez Vasquez, conocido mundialmente como "Popeye" debido a que se asemejaba al personaje de caricaturas del mismo nombre, fue un ex sicario de rango medio del Cartel de Medellín, que se destaca luego de la disolución del cartel al ser el autodenominado "Memoria historia del Cartel", siendo el que mas ha hablado y relatado la historia dentro de la organización, al punto que hoy en día, es casi una fuente "verídica" (esto se detallará mas adelante) en muchos hechos ocurridos en Colombia. A pesar de que es una persona que ha salido para hablar de muchos temas, entre ellos la historia de Colombia, como ha tenido seguidores y detractores. ¿Pero que tiene de malo un ex sicario que quiere vivir en honestidad y dice estar arrepentido?

Jhon Jairo Velasquez Vasquez, known worldwide as "Popeye" because he resembled the cartoon character of the same name, was a former mid-ranking hitman for the Medellín Cartel. He rose to prominence after the cartel's dissolution as the self-proclaimed "Memory of the Cartel's History." He is the person who has spoken the most and told the story within the organization, to the point that today he is almost a "true" source (this topic I will explain later) on many events that occurred in Colombia. Despite being a person who has spoken out on many topics, including the history of Colombia, he has had both followers and detractors. But what's wrong with a former hitman who wants to live honestly and claims to be repentant?
POPEYE ERA UN BUSCAPLEITOS
Una cosa que se destacaba Popeye, era que era una persona muy ardida, al punto de buscar pleitos con cualquiera, desde gente de tendencia de izquierda, hasta las victimas del cartel, solo porque estos justificaban que Popeye no pudiera salir en libertad. Un ejemplo muy conocido es cuando se peleo en vivo, por la cadena Russia Today, con una victima del cartel llamado "Gonzalo Rojas" solo porque Gonzalo, que queria hablar con Popeye sobre el caso del ataque del Avion de Avianca en 1989, en el pasado se opuso a la libertad de popeye.

One thing that stood out about Popeye was that he was a very fiery person, to the point of picking fights with anyone, from left-leaning people to the cartel's victims, just because they justified Popeye's inability to be released. A well-known example is when he got into a live argument on Russia Today with a cartel victim named "Gonzalo Rojas" simply because Gonzalo, who wanted to speak with Popeye about the 1989 Avianca plane attack, had previously opposed Popeye's freedom.
POPEYE ERA UN MENTIROSO
Si bien, muchas de los hechos que ha hablado y publicado Popeye, han sido corroborados por terceros y cercanos al ex sicario, Popeye tenia fama de mentir para ganar atención. El mejor ejemplo fue cuando apoyo las declaraciones de los medios de que era uno de los terratenientes mas poderosos e importantes de Pablo Escobar durante su estancia de prisión, pero tuvo que eliminar eso para decir que era un rango medio. Aun así, estas declaraciones lo seguía de vez en cuando alardeando para generar atención. Un ejemplo de esto es cuando decía ser la mano derecha de Pablo Escobar, para luego contradecirse, y relatar que era un rango medio, pero muy amigo de los verdaderos rangos, en especial Jhon Jairo Arias Tascon, alias "Pinina"

Although many of the facts Popeye has shared and published have been corroborated by third parties close to the former hitman, Popeye had a reputation for lying to gain attention. The best example was when he supported media claims that he was one of Pablo Escobar's most powerful and important landowners during his prison term, but had to eliminate that claim to claim he was a mid-level landowner. Even so, he occasionally boasted about these claims to gain attention. An example of this is when he claimed to be Pablo Escobar's right-hand man, only to later contradict himself and say he was a mid-level landowner, but a close friend of the real leaders, especially Jhon Jairo Arias Tascon, aka "Pinina."
Por un lado dice ser Mano Derecha de Pablo Escobar. (minuto 2:09)
Cuando ya no podía mentir, decide contradecirse y decir quien era la verdadera mano derecha
POPEYE Y SUS DECLARACIONES
Si ya de por si, tenia fama de ser un egocéntrico peleonero y a veces mitómano, tenia fama de decir declaraciones dignas de un payaso de internet, una de ellas decir que Dios le dio la orden de hacer unos videos. Lo mas gracioso y hasta patético, es que siempre decía que Pablo Escobar era su Dios, por lo que muchos lo tachaban de loco (y este le gustaba porque decía que ser loco era ser inteligente) por creer que Pablo Escobar (Dios) le ordenaba hacer esos videos.

If he already had a reputation for being an egocentric brawler and sometimes a mythomaniac, he also had a reputation for making statements worthy of an internet clown, one of them being that God gave him the order to make some videos. The funniest and even pathetic thing is that he always said that Pablo Escobar was his God, which is why many called him crazy (and he liked him because he said that being crazy was being intelligent) for believing that Pablo Escobar (God) ordered him to make those videos.

Otro momento de lucidez, este alardeaba desde redes sociales, que era un ser de extrema derecha (o ultraderecha) y actuaba como si fuera un paramilitar colombiano, siendo el simp mayor de Álvaro Uribe Velez, un personaje controversial en la política Colombiana. Debido a eso, era comun que hiciera tweets contra Gustavo Petro, siendo un A-Log de Petro hasta sus últimos días.

Another moment of lucidity: he boasted on social media that he was a far-right (or ultra-right) figure and acted as if he were a Colombian paramilitary, even though he was the senior deputy of Álvaro Uribe Vélez, a controversial figure in Colombian politics. Because of this, he frequently tweeted against Gustavo Petro, remaining an A-Log for Petro until his final days.

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Ultimas polémicas y final de sus días
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Tras varias peleas, polémicas y andar amenazando a gente en redes sociales, sabiendo que tenia libertad condicional, este sería arrestado en 2018 por acusaciones de tener nexos con la Oficina del Envigado, hacer extorsiones hacia su persona y amenazar al mismo Gustavo Petro. Antes de su arresto, dejaría en manos de su canal e ingresos a una amiga periodista Pamela, y entraría a la cárcel de Valledupar, donde contrae cáncer de esófago de una manera acelerada. A pesar de su estado, no descartaba en seguir apareciendo en redes sociales, y con ayuda de sus seguidores y de Pamela, crearse una imagen de prisionero político, encarcelado injustamente. Finalmente el 6 de febrero de 2020, Jhon Jairo Velásquez fallece de Cáncer de Esófago, tras disfrutar solo 4 años de farándula, polémicas y dramatismo. Curiosamente tras su muerte, empiezan a gente a salir a hacerle A-Logging pero ya se verán mas adelante.

After several fights, controversies, and threatening people on social media, knowing he was on parole, he was arrested in 2018 on accusations of having ties to the Envigado Office, extorting money, and threatening Gustavo Petro himself. Before his arrest, he left his channel and income in the hands of a journalist friend, Pamela, and entered the Valledupar prison, where he rapidly contracted esophageal cancer. Despite his condition, he did not rule out continuing to appear on social media and, with the help of his followers and Pamela, created an image for himself as an unjustly imprisoned political prisoner. Finally, on February 6, 2020, Jhon Jairo Velásquez died of esophageal cancer, after enjoying only four years of celebrity, controversy, and drama. Curiously, after his death, people began to A-log him, but we'll see more later.
Carlos Lehder Rivas/El Loco

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Carlos Lehder Rivas, conocido como "El Loco", fue uno de los lideres del Cartel de Medellín, y de los pocos capos que aun viven actualmente. Fue arrestado y extraditado en 1987 a Estados Unidos, y liberado en 2020 tras cumplir condena por narcotráfico. A pesar de ser uno de los personajes mas importantes del Cartel, todos lo veían como un lunático bisexual, al que le gustaba drogarse, tener sexo con hombres, algunos menores de edad y dedicarse a creerse guerrillero nacionalista colombiano. Irónicamente este siempre negaba esto en entrevista, y decía que Popeye las fabrico para entorpecer las cosas, siendo un importante A-Log de Popeye, en que lo calificaba como un simple inútil, payaso y conductor de Escobar, con nula relevancia del Cartel, contradiciendo declaraciones de personas importantes como el Ex Presidente Andrés Pastrana, La amante de Escobar Virginia Vallejo y los mismos paramilitares que el mismo ayudo a financiar. El mismo Pablo Escobar al ver su locura, decide dárselo a las autoridades porque este mató a un sicario de Escobar por celos, aunque Lehder siempre dijo que el culpable era Escobar y que eso nunca pasó.

Carlos Lehder Rivas, known as "El Loco," was one of the leaders of the Medellín Cartel and one of the few kingpins still alive. He was arrested and extradited to the United States in 1987 and released in 2020 after serving a sentence for drug trafficking. Despite being one of the Cartel's most important figures, everyone saw him as a bisexual lunatic who liked to take drugs, have sex with men, some of them minors, and dedicated himself to believing himself a Colombian nationalist guerrilla. Ironically, he always denied this in interviews, saying that Popeye fabricated them to hinder things. He is an important A-Log of Popeye was described as a useless clown and Escobar's driver, with no relevance to the Cartel, contradicting statements from important figures such as former President of Colombia Andrés Pastrana, Escobar's lover Virginia Vallejo, and the same paramilitaries he helped finance. Pablo Escobar himself, seeing his madness, decides to turn him in to the authorities because he killed one of Escobar's hitmen out of jealousy, although Lehder always said that Escobar was the culprit and that this never happened.
Su Hija: Monica Lehder, la explotadora de la fama de su padre
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Monica Lehder es la hija de Carlos Lehder, quien fue la vocera de su padre para que sea devuelto a Colombia, y ha dado entrevistas sobre la vida de su padre... a pesar de que ella era una bebé cuando fue capturado el Capo de la Droga. Monica ha sido acusada, incluso por su propio padre, de explotar su imagen para beneficio personal, que incluye charlas y salir en la TV hablando del Cartel de Medellín. Curiosamente tras la libertad de su padre y cuando este se enteró que Monica hablaba en su nombre sin autorización, esta simplemente decidió tener un perfil bajo en redes sociales a ya casi no salir en televisión, y menos junto a su padre.

Monica Lehder is the daughter of Carlos Lehder, who spoke out for her father's return to Colombia and has given interviews about her father's life... even though she was a baby when the drug lord was captured. Monica has been accused, including by her own father, of exploiting her image for personal gain, including speaking out and appearing on TV about the Medellín Cartel. Curiously, after her father's release and when he found out that Monica was speaking on his behalf without authorization, she simply decided to keep a low profile on social media and rarely appear on television anymore, much less alongside her father.
Roberto Escobar Gaviria/El Osito
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Roberto Escobar Gaviria, conocido como "El Osito" (apodo viniendo por una cadena de bicicletas que el operaba antes de ser narco) es un ex narcotraficante, hermano mayor de Pablo Escobar que lo ayudo en el Cartel de Medellin, pero en un muy bajo perfil. Tras ser victima de un bombazo por parte de los PEPES (Perseguidos por Pablo Escobar) permanecería en prisión hasta 2006. A diferencia de Popeye, este siendo familiar del Narco mas famoso de la historia, uno esperaría que dijera hechos mas verosímiles que el ex sicario de confianza, y viviera una vida normal, pero es todo lo contrario...

Roberto Escobar Gaviria, known as "El Osito" (the nickname comes from a bicycle chain he operated before becoming a drug trafficker) is a former drug trafficker, the older brother of Pablo Escobar, who helped him in the Medellin Cartel, but with a very low profile. After being the victim of a bombing by the PEPES (Perseguidos por Pablo Escobar) (People Persecuted by Pablo Escobar), he would remain in prison until 2006. Unlike Popeye, being a relative of the most famous drug trafficker in history, one would expect him to tell more credible facts than the former trusted hitman, and to live a normal life, but it is quite the opposite...

Mitomanía extrema
Roberto es conocido por ser un mitomano de primera, siempre llamando la atención sobre cosas con respeto al Cartel de Medellin y negando hechos obvios. Uno de esos hechos es negar que fue narcotraficante y que no sabia nada de las actividades de su hermano, aun cuando era su contador personal y tenia conocimientos de las atrocidades del Cartel. Esto se puede ver en esta entrevista donde parece evadir preguntas obvias, como en entrevistas donde niega sus actividades en el Cartel de Medellin, y que segun sus palabras "Le pidio a su hermano armar una acusación falsa de narcotrafico"

Roberto is known for being a first-rate mythomaniac, always drawing attention to matters related to the Medellin Cartel and denying obvious facts. One of those facts is his denial that he was a drug trafficker and that he knew nothing about his brother's activities, even though he was his personal accountant and had knowledge of the Cartel's atrocities. This can be seen in this interview, where he seems to evade obvious questions, as well as in interviews where he denies his activities in the Medellin Cartel, and that, in his own words, "He asked his brother to frame a false accusation of drug trafficking."

Sobreexplotar la imagen de su hermano menor
A pesar de siempre admitir que no quiere estar a favor de que le hagan series sobre Pablo, este ha dedicado su vida en libertad, en crear una especie de museo y sobreexplotar la imagen de Escobar por dinero, contrario a otros que se limitaron a libros y entrevistas, tachando a las series de crear una imagen ficticia de Pablo... a pesar de que a veces lo hace con él.

Despite always admitting that he doesn't want to be in favor of series being made about Pablo, he has dedicated his life in freedom to creating a kind of museum and overexploiting Escobar's image for money, contrary to others who limited themselves to books and interviews, accusing the series of creating a fictitious image of Pablo... despite the fact that sometimes they do that with him.

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Es gracias a esta explotación que empieza a reestructurar una compañía llamada "Escobar Inc.", creada en 1984 por Roberto y Pablo para lavar dinero, pero actualmente se dedica a patentar cosas con el apellido "Escobar" siendo el mas infame caso de la estafa del Telefono inteligente "Escobar Fold" en la que Roberto compraba Apples de mala calidad y le añadian imagenes de Pablo Escobar para venderlos a precios altos y nunca recibirlos, solo si eres un influencer de la tecnologia.

It is thanks to this exploitation that he begins to restructure a company called "Escobar Inc.", created in 1984 by Roberto and Pablo to launder money, but currently dedicated to patenting things with the surname "Escobar" being the most infamous case of the "Escobar Fold" smartphone scam in which Roberto bought poor quality smarphones and added images of Pablo Escobar to sell them at high prices and never receive them, only if you are a technology influencer.
Nicolas Escobar, el Hijo narco y mitomano de Roberto Escobar
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Nicolas Escobar es el hijo de Roberto Escobar y sobrino de Pablo Escobar, conocido por su mitomania, su dramatismo y peleas de invalidos incluso contra su propio padre. y por estar bajo arresto por trafico de cocaina. Nacido en la epoca de explendor del Cartel de Medellin, pasó toda su vida en Suiza por seguridad hasta recientemente volver a Colombia, donde vivió de sobreexplotar la imagen de su tio narco.

Un ejemplo de esto es cuando Nicolas Escobar alardeo conocer caletas escondidas de Pablo Escobar, para luego salir su propio padre Roberto a desmentir diciendo que su propio hijo usaba propiedades de él para falsificar Caletas

Nicolas Escobar is the son of Roberto Escobar and nephew of Pablo Escobar, known for his mythomania, his dramatic nature, and his fights against his own father, as well as for being under arrest for cocaine trafficking. Born during the heyday of the Medellin Cartel, he spent his entire life in Switzerland for safety until recently returning to Colombia, where he made a living exploiting the image of his drug-dealing uncle.

An example of this is when Nicolas Escobar boasted of knowing Pablo Escobar's hidden caches, only for his own father, Roberto, to later deny that his son was using his property to counterfeit caches.

No bastando con falsificar pruebas de Pablo Escobar, Nicolas se ha puesto de A-Log contra verdaderos ex miembros del cartel, siendo el A-Log de Popeye, acusandolo de ser un don nadie y un payaso del cartel.

Not content with falsifying evidence against Pablo Escobar, Nicolas has turned A-Log against real former cartel members, A-Log being Popeye, accusing him of being a nobody and a cartel clown.

Tambien ha dicho estar orgulloso del legado de su Tio Pablo, y que si hubiera nacido antes, hubiera sido el mas peligroso del Cartel de Medellin y muerto junto a su tio. Debido a discrepancias entre su padre Roberto Escobar y él, Nicolas se convierte en un A-Log de Roberto Escobar, siempre peleandose y deseandole la muerte, tal como Roberto y Nicolas se han acusado mutuamente.

He has also said he is proud of his Uncle Pablo's legacy, and that if he had been born earlier, he would have been the most dangerous member of the Medellin Cartel and would have died alongside his uncle. Due to disagreements between his father, Roberto Escobar, and him, Nicolas became an A-Log for Roberto Escobar, constantly fighting and wishing him dead, just as Roberto and Nicolas have accused each other of doing.
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Noticia Completa: Dramacows siendo Dramacows
Juan Pablo Escobar Henao/Sebastian Marroquin

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Juan Pablo Escobar o actualmente Sebastian Marroquin, es el hijo de Pablo Escobar, residenciado en Argentina luego de huir de las represalias del Cartel de Cali y los Pepes en 1993. En los ultimos años ha intentado vivir una vida normal, pero al igual que los mencionado, este vuelve a ser un drama queen en los ultimos años:

Juan Pablo Escobar or currently Sebastian Marroquin, is the son of Pablo Escobar, residing in Argentina after fleeing the reprisals of the Cali Cartel and the Pepes in 1993. In recent years he has tried to live a normal life, but like those mentioned, this one is once again a drama queen in recent years:
Pelea contra Popeye
En una entrevista sobre su padre, Juan Pablo empezó declaraciones polémicas y poco creíbles, como desde decir que Pablo Escobar era agente de la CIA, La madre de Escobar vendió a Pablo ante los Pepes, Frank Sinatra era asociado del Cartel de Medellin y otras cosas dignas de una pelicula de Tom Cruise. Esto hizo que Popeye, en su momento de ardido, decide crear un video donde ataca a Pablo Escobar calificando a la familia de Escobar de degenerados y retrasados.

In an interview about his father, Juan Pablo made controversial and unbelievable statements, such as saying that Pablo Escobar was a CIA agent, that Escobar's mother sold Pablo out to the Pepes, that Frank Sinatra was an associate of the Medellin Cartel, and other things worthy of a Tom Cruise movie. This led Popeye, in his angry moment, to decide to create a video attacking Pablo Escobar, calling Escobar's family degenerates and retarded.
Resumen:
Luego de peleas y A-Logging entre ambos, un ex miembro del Cartel que hablaremos mas adelante ayuda a ser un intermediario, que termina que Juan Pablo y Popeye decidan hacer la "Paz" y estos hacen videos disculpandose entre ambos. Curiosamente Popeye habia informado sobre un encuentro entre Juan Pablo y Popeye para afianzar la paz entre ambos, encuentro que jamás pasó.

After fights and A-Logging between the two, a former Cartel member whom we'll talk about later helps to act as an intermediary, which ends up with Juan Pablo and Popeye deciding to make "Peace" and they make videos apologizing to each other. Curiously, Popeye had reported on a meeting between Juan Pablo and Popeye to strengthen the peace between them, a meeting that never happened.
Solo pueden hacer cosas de Pablo Escobar, si el le dan dinero
Juan Pablo siempre ha sido muy critico con las series y novelas que han hecho de su padre Pablo Escobar. La principal razón es, segun sus palabras, una falta de realidad con respeto a los sucesos creados en las series. Tal como vemos en esta entrevista con su opinion sobre las series "Narcos" y "El Patron del Mal"

Juan Pablo has always been highly critical of the series that have portrayed his father, Pablo Escobar. The main reason, in his words, is a lack of reality regarding the events depicted in the series. As we see in this interview with his opinion on the series "Narcos" and "El Patron del Mal" (The Boss of Evil).
Obviamente estas criticas ocultan la verdadera intención de Juan Pablo: Solo él puede lucrarse de la imagen de su padre. Esto lo vemos cuando gana dinero a través de entrevistas donde habla de su padre, cosas insignificantes o inventadas, pero como es "historias de Pablo Escobar" ganan dinero y fama, tal como vemos en estas entrevistas.

Obviously, these criticisms obscure Juan Pablo's true intentions: Only he can profit from his father's image. We see this when he makes money through interviews where he talks about his father—insignificant or fabricated things, but because they're "Pablo Escobar stories," they earn money and fame, as we see in these interviews.

Conclusion

Si Pablo Escobar estuviera vivo y observara lo que pasó a su organización y miembros, inmediatamente les mata a la mamá, al papá, al hermanito, al perro y a la abuelita, y si su abuelita esta muerta, lo desentierra y lo vuelve a matar.
 

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Much like that other OP who wrote up about a mexican cartel, it was nice knowing you, OP. Although now that I think about it, the cartel doesn't really exist anymore. Right?
 
Much like that other OP who wrote up about a mexican cartel, it was nice knowing you, OP. Although now that I think about it, the cartel doesn't really exist anymore. Right?
Colombian cartels are even more retarded than Mexican ones. Op is fine.

No hay nada acerca del hijo de Pablo? Con un padre asi ni de chiste este tipo salió bien.
 
Much like that other OP who wrote up about a mexican cartel, it was nice knowing you, OP. Although now that I think about it, the cartel doesn't really exist anymore. Right?
Medellin Cartel was defunt since 1993. The Real Thread is about the former members and Associates, because all former members are fighting to make gains about Pablo Escobar, mainly being dramacows.
Colombian cartels are even more retarded than Mexican ones. Op is fine.

No hay nada acerca del hijo de Pablo? Con un padre asi ni de chiste este tipo salió bien.
Añadido ya sobre el Hijo de Pablo Escobar y sus dramas mas famosas.
 
Medellin Cartel was defunt since 1993. The Real Thread is about the former members and Associates, because all former members are fighting to make gains about Pablo Escobar, mainly being dramacows.

Añadido ya sobre el Hijo de Pablo Escobar y sus dramas mas famosas.
Pretty much like those ex-Mafia grifters right now? All they do is just to get a podcast apperance and sell their motivational books?
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Para ya terminar el Hilo y revivirlo:
Manuela Escobar (la hija de Pablo) finalmente habla por primera vez sobre su vida con su padre Pablo
Mientras Nicolas Escobar sigue buscando atención hablando de Pablo Escobar como un Dios y un Superman, revelando que tiene un pleito con el hijo de Escobar, Juan Pablo Escobar. También dedica a hacer A-Logging de Popeye y diciendo obvias mentiras.
Y una nota donde la Familia de Roberto Escobar se pelea para ver quien se queda con lo poco que dejo Pablo Escobar
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I'm not sure that it's the greatest idea that we should be making lolcow threads on notoriously violent criminal organisations, even defunct ones.
They're absolutely lolcow material. They are truly bad people who do horrifying things, but they're also cringe on how they do it.

They're also ultra sensitive. Like, the difference between them and the many lolcows we talk about here is that the narcos do have the guts to murder.
 
Great thread.
I particularly like how the text contains the term "mythomania" (which is used rarely in modern day English, it is only mentioned on k-farms like 20 times in total) but also uses the k-farms specific term "a-log"
 
This is incredibly out of place for KF. Maybe one or two of the former members are eccentric and/or grifters but it's a huge stretch to call the organization itself a lolcow.
 
John Henry Millan/El Chino Millan
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Hablar de la cantidad de payasos y personajes vueltos lolcows que alardeaban ser miembros de uno de los carteles de la droga mas sanguinarios, es digno de una pelicula, imaginando el creer que es un logro mentir de que fuiste sicario o asociado de Pablo Escobar, pero de todos los llamados "Sicarios de Papel", existe el mas famoso que incluso es simbolo de estupidez hoy en dia: John Henry Millan, o como el mismo se dice "El Chino Millan".
Talking about the number of clowns and characters turned lolcows who boasted of being members of one of the most bloodthirsty drug cartels is worthy of a movie, imagining believing that it is an achievement to lie that you were a hitman or associate of Pablo Escobar, but of all the so-called "Paper Hitmen", there is the most famous who is even a symbol of stupidity today: John Henry Millan, or as he calls himself "El Chino Millan".

Primera Aparición
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Millan, tuvo su primer aparición en 1991, epoca donde Pablo Escobar estaba encerrado en la Carcel de la Catedral, aparecería en un programa llamado "El Show de Cristina" donde relataba como desde pequeño era un sicario y que ganaba millones de dolares pero que los gastaba en licor y drogas, hasta que un día, una mujer le habló del evangelio, por lo que se retira del sicariato, va a Estados Unidos y se convierte en pastor de una iglesia evangelica, muy popular en America Latina.

Cabe destacar que en ningun momento menciona ser del Cartel de Medellin, pero este daba indirectas, como que era campeon de motocross y muy popular entre la jerarquia de sicarios. Se desconoce si esto fue una falsificación hecha por el mismo Chino Millan o la conducta del programa, Cristina Saralegui, creo la historia para ganar popularidad. Lo que si es verdad, es que aqui comenzaría la historia del Chino Millan.
Millan made his first appearance in 1991, when Pablo Escobar was imprisoned in the Cathedral Prison. He appeared on a program called "El Show de Cristina," where he recounted how he had been a hitman since childhood, earning millions of dollars but spending them on alcohol and drugs. One day, a woman told him about the gospel. He retired from hit work, went to the United States, and became the pastor of an evangelical church, very popular in Latin America.



It's worth noting that at no point does he mention being a member of the Medellín Cartel, but he did drop hints, such as that he was a motocross champion and very popular among the hitman hierarchy. It is unknown whether this was a falsification by Chino Millan himself or if Cristina Saralegui, the program's host, fabricated the story to gain popularity. What is true is that this is where the story of Chino Millan begins.

Popularidad y Entrevistas
Años después, y en especial tras la disolución del Cartel de Medellin, Henry Millan ya como pastor de iglesias evangelicas, empezaría a hablar de supuestas experiencias como ex sicario del Cartel de Medellin. Según Millan, él era el 2do hombre mas buscado del Cartel de Medellin siendo mano derecha de Pablo Escobar, estuvo desde los 13 años asesinado capos de la droga que le designaba Pablo Escobar, que fue capturado en 1988 pero liberado por parte del Bloque de Busqueda (Grupo supervizado y entrenado por la CIA y la DEA para cazar a Escobar) porque se parecia al hijo del comandante del Bloque de Busqueda, y como en 1989, tras secuestrar a varios lideres colombianos y sus familias, fue a Brasil a volverse pastor Evangelico e ir a USA el mismo año a formar una iglesia evangelica y una ONG patrocinada por el gobierno de Colombia, y este hablaba con Escobar para convertirlo en evangelico desde el extranjero. Cabe destacar que todas las entrevistas y testimonios de Millan, siempre lo hizo en paises como Guatemala, Republica Dominicana o en Mexico, y jamás tocaría Colombia, a pesar de que supuestamente sus testimonios eran vitales para la investigación en el Tribunal de Justicia y Paz.

Years later, and especially after the dissolution of the Medellin Cartel, Henry Millan, now a pastor of evangelical churches, would begin to speak of his alleged experiences as a former hitman for the Medellin Cartel. According to Millan, he was the second most wanted man in the Medellin Cartel, being Pablo Escobar's right-hand man. From the age of 13, he had been assassinating drug lords assigned to him by Pablo Escobar. He was captured in 1988 but released by the Search Bloc (a group supervised and trained by the CIA and DEA to hunt Escobar) because he resembled the son of the Search Bloc commander. In 1989, after kidnapping several Colombian leaders and their families, he went to Brazil to become an evangelical pastor and the same year went to the USA to form an evangelical church and an NGO sponsored by the Colombian government. Escobar then spoke with Escobar about converting him to evangelicalism from abroad. It's worth noting that all of Millan's interviews and testimony were conducted in countries like Guatemala, the Dominican Republic, and Mexico, and he never mentioned Colombia, despite the fact that his testimony was supposedly vital to the investigation at the Justice and Peace Tribunal.

Mentiras expuestas
Cabe destacar que la popularidad del "Chino Millan" terminaría la noche a la mañana cuando los mismos colombianos se enteraron de como este testificaba con incoherencias sus experiencias en el Cartel de Medellin, por lo que llego a oidos de verdaderos sicarios y familiares de Escobar, siendo Alias "Popeye" y Nicolas Escobar (sobrino de Pablo Escobar) que llegaron a desmentir sus obvias mentiras.
En el año 2014, un sujeto llamado "Tricolor Colombia", posteriormente llamado "Las mentiras del Chino Millan" publicaría una serie de videos donde desmentia todos los testimonios de Henry Millan, con apoyo de Popeye, el ex sicario de Escobar.
It is worth noting that the popularity of "Chino Millan" would end overnight when the Colombians themselves found out how he testified with inconsistencies about his experiences in the Medellin Cartel, which reached the ears of real hitmen and relatives of Escobar, being Alias "Popeye" and Nicolas Escobar (Pablo Escobar's nephew) who came to deny his obvious lies.

In 2014, a man named "Tricolor Colombia," later known as "Las mentiras del Chino Millan," published a series of videos refuting all of Henry Millan's testimony, with the support of Popeye, Escobar's former hitman.

Actualidad
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Millan en 2014, una de sus ultimas apariciones publicas

Luego de ser desmentido por los verdaderos sicarios, recibido repudio por parte del pueblo colombiano y que incluso ex miembros de los PEPES ("Perseguidos Por Pablo Escobar" un grupo que operaba desde 1992 hasta 2009 con el objetivo de asesinar miembros del cartel de medellin) y ex oficiales de policia declararan que nunca existio un Chino Millan en las filas de Pablo Escobar, Henry Millan decide borrar todo rastro de él en internet, y desaparecer incluso de la vía publica, al punto que hoy en dia es casi imposible saber donde se encuentra Millan (se cree que vive en Estados Unidos con bajo perfil). Cabe destacar que antes de irse de redes sociales, este intentó borrar sus videos de testimonio en youtube, fallando en el intento.

Lo que si es obvio que hoy en día, John Henry Millan es el vivo ejemplo de un estafador que ganó dinero a base de mentiras, y que antes era facil engañar a miles de personas con falsos testimonios y usar a Dios para ganar dinero.​
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El Chino Millan en 2024, en una iglesia de Estados Unidos/El Chino Millan on 2024, in a evangelical Church in United States
After being denied by the real hitmen, receiving repudiation from the Colombian people, and even former members of PEPES ("Perseguidos por Pablo Escobar," a group that operated from 1992 to 2009 with the goal of assassinating members of the Medellin cartel) and former police officers declaring that there was never a Chino Millan in Pablo Escobar's ranks, Henry Millan decided to erase all traces of him from the internet, even disappearing from public view. Today, it's almost impossible to know where Millan is (he is believed to be living in the United States with a low profile). It's worth noting that before leaving social media, he tried to delete his testimony videos from YouTube, but failed.

What is obvious is that today, John Henry Millan is the living example of a con man who made money based on lies, while it was once easy to deceive thousands of people with false testimonies and use God to make money.
 
They're absolutely lolcow material. They are truly bad people who do horrifying things, but they're also cringe on how they do it.

They're also ultra sensitive. Like, the difference between them and the many lolcows we talk about here is that the narcos do have the guts to murder.
Yeah but see, what Dyn was getting at is that they might decide to send a hitman or a group of hitmen after Null or anyone else related to this site that they can find.
 
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