Canada is a failed state

[Scale Smerch]

And where do you think Canada gets its money from? Or do you think that the entirety of Canada’s taxpayers are funding Alberta without a single tax dollar being spent on other provinces? When Alberta leaves Alberta will be taking its taxpayers with it, and Alberta taxpayers pay more then the national average.

1. Nobody expects separation to be instantaneous. At bare minimum there will be at least a year to set everything up, possibly multiple years.

2. America is Alberta’s biggest trade partner, using its currency makes perfect sense. And Albertans won’t be forced to immediately give up their Canadian dollars as doing so would cause the dollar to immediately crash which would have major ramifications for the rest of the country.

Nobody has a switch that immediately changes everything over. It will take time and that time is accounted or in the process

This is why you need to look in the mirror. Yes overall - within the Canadian system - Alberta puts in more than it takes - but do you actually realize how much it takes to run every single bureaucratic system the average Albertan resident expects to just work? Do you understand the US is not likely to give Alberta a sweetheart deal when they have no reason to? Do you comprehend there is a lot of detail concerning sovereign states which can be conveniently ignored currently since it's not front and centre in the referendum debate?

For one example consider sovereign debt: do you really expect the best and brightest in Alberta's separatist movement to get away without a requirement to take on a share of Canada's trillion+ debt once put to the test? Do you actually expect the province to simply materialize a new public sector pension scheme without major pain points around funding and divesting from Ottawa's federal plan? You honestly think Washington won't put the screws to Alberta to ensure it becomes a compliant client state and screw it out of tariffs?

As stated I want an independent Alberta like you, but I strongly disagree with it being an easy process. No matter the time frame money doesn't care and much like many central European countries it becomes an argument less about wanting a sugar daddy and much as deciding who you want to be your sugar daddy.

 

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Seriously though, if Alberta does separate and you have an Alberta birth certificate, but you live in Canada, what happens then?

 

[Maker's Mark]

Seriously though, if Alberta does separate and you have an Alberta birth certificate, but you live in Canada, what happens then?

I'm going to assume there will be some sort of grace period where people are allowed to choose between moving to/staying in Alberta and getting Albertan citizenship or leaving and keeping your Canadian citizenship. The Canadian government would also allow Alberta born citizens not living in Alberta the ability to keep their Canadian citizenship. I think they would do anything and everything to disincentivize anyone from staying in Alberta.

 

[Campbell_Trio]

You honestly think Washington won't put the screws to Alberta to ensure it becomes a compliant client state and screw it out of tariffs?

Beton basically wants this as he just describes an independent Alberta being Puerto Rico where it gains all the negatives of being in the states and none of the benefits while being "independent" on paper

 

[Gorton Colu]

Beton basically wants this as he just describes an independent Alberta being Puerto Rico where it gains all the negatives of being in the states and none of the benefits while being "independent" on paper

Its the opposite. Puerto Ricans do not pay federal income tax and only lose out on voting in national elections. They get plenty of federal funding. Its only a shit hole due to corrupt local politics. The reason Puerto Ricans had historically voted against independence and statehood was because of how cushy being a territory really is. They only started voting to become a state when the corruption started getting intolerable.

Alberta as a US territory would be more a Quebec with them being the ones getting gibs. If Albertan pols can run things right that is.