Opinion Can pornography be healthy? If it follows six rules, perhaps - A ‘deeply controversial’ research project has laid out a set of criteria for ‘healthy porn’, with the aim of developing ‘porn literacy’ in young adults

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There’s porn and then there’s “healthy” porn, according to an interdisciplinary research panel, who have compiled a list of criteria to help young people spot the difference.

Prof Alan McKee, who led the project, argues that young adults should be taught “porn literacy” to help them “read porn well” and look for healthy and ethical depictions of sex.


Picture diverse bodies, with diverse ways of doing things from navigating erectile dysfunction to negotiating consent for kinks and fantasies, instead of “sexist, racist, ableist stereotypes”.

“Pornography is not homogenous,” says McKee, a pornography researcher and head of the University of Sydney’s school of art, communication and English.

The panel’s determinations have been published in the International Journal of Sexual Health, in a peer-reviewed article that sets out six criteria for healthy pornography, along with a lesson plan for adults aged 18 to 25.

The criteria are: a variety of sexual practices; a variety of body types, genders and races; a negotiation of consent on screen; ethical production; a focus on pleasure for all participants; and depictions of safe sex.

McKee says that, in the same way that the “war on drugs” has famously failed, prohibition-style approaches to porn fail too.

The current conversation in Australia is about “protecting” young people from the harms of pornography, as though “all pornography is the same and equally harmful”, he says.

“Looking at young adults, 18 to 25, if you do have a child in that age group it’s not very helpful to say all pornography is bad.

This is because it assumes “all pornography … works in the same way”, which isn’t true, McKee says.

Last year, he published the book, What Do We Know About The Effects of Pornography after Fifty Years of Academic Research?

Who’s deciding what’s ethical anyway?”
Melinda Tankard Reist, Collective Shout
The answer was ‘not very much’, because academic research has consistently taken a monolithic view; lumping violent porn – from the early cowboy days of the internet, heteronormative porn and porn produced by queer, feminist directors or solo sex workers on platforms like OnlyFans – all into one category.

To develop the criteria, McKee assembled a Delphi panel – an interdisciplinary group of experts on a topic where there is not a consensus – who worked on the project together.

While pornography can be made for hollow gratification, with no regard for wellbeing, McKee writes that healthy pornography can actually contribute to disease free, safe sex, that actually helps enable healthy sexual development.

But the entire project is “deeply controversial,” McKee says. There are plenty of people who doubt that any sexually explicit material can be benign, let alone benevolent.

Even “normal” lets the devil in, Pope Francis told his millions of followers last year – while conceding that priests and nuns are known to partake.

Anti-porn campaigners such as Collective Shout argue that you can’t “whitewash” the porn industry.

We do have to acknowledge young people’s use of porn and provide education
Debbie Ollis, Deakin University
(The journal article notes one limitation was that no anti-porn activists were included in the Delphi panel, which could have affected the outcome.)

“I think it’s close to impossible,” Melinda Tankard Reist of Collective Shout, says, adding that most porn consumers want pornography that features violence and the degradation of women.

“We don’t believe you could make this industry better and the vast majority of consumers aren’t ever going to be looking for ethical porn,” she says.

“And who’s deciding what’s ethical anyway?”

On the other hand, associate professor Debbie Ollis, a health and sexuality researcher at Deakin University who was not involved in the panel, says it is possible to develop “ethical” pornography. But she can’t see the industry as a whole going that way.

Young people should be discussing issues of power, gendered assumptions and gender-based violence, she says, because the research clearly shows “young people and even children are accessing porn intentionally and unintentionally”.

“We do have to acknowledge young people’s use of porn and provide education that can help and guide them, with a framework that helps them make sense of what they see in porn and how it relates to an ethics of care – care for self and care for others.”

McKee notes that there is conflict and nuance, even when experts broadly agree.

The “biggest source of disciplinary disagreement” in the project, he writes in the article, was also the central tenet – what is “healthy”?

“The word often has a moral connotation, used to police the behaviour of marginal or powerless groups in society – for example, for many decades homosexuality was described as ‘unhealthy’.”

The panel also discussed whether there should be “representations of emotional intimacy during sex”, which some argued would push casual sex to the “unhealthy” side of the ledger.

McKee says the idea that casual sex – or kink – is a bad thing has muddied much of the previous research on the perceived harms of pornography.

“It assumes that the ideal end point is a loving, married, monogamous relationship and sex is only to express that love or have a baby,” he says.

The Delphi panel also discussed a criterion that pornography should be purely educational and not arousing. They ultimately decided against it, determining pornography could be both educational and arousing.
 
If porn was healthy people wouldn't treat No Nut November like the month of working out after New Years Eve.
How terminally online do you have to be to think this is a real thing with anyone who isn't a mentally ill /pol/ faggot that thinks memes subtly making fun of them are real? "No Nut November" also means that person didn't have sex for the entire month of November. These people are fucking losers that probably all look and smell like Chris Chan. Porn doesn't cause autism as far as I know.
 
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How terminally online do you have to be to think this is a real thing with anyone who isn't a mentally ill /pol/ faggot that thinks memes subtly making fun of them are real? "No Nut November" also means that person didn't have sex for the entire month of November. These people are fucking losers that probably all look and smell like Chris Chan. Porn doesn't cause autism as far as I know.
Quit nitpicking, No-Watching-Porn-Or-Masturbation-November isn't as catchy.

As for 'healthy' porn, POV porn and solo stuff is least unhealthy, as other genres involve watching other men have sex with the women you are attracted too, you are sexually wiring yourself to be a cuckold.

I'm not sure how valid it is, but here's something thought provoking about the psychological origins of fetishes a /pol/fag wrote.
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Quit nitpicking, No-Watching-Porn-Or-Masturbation-November isn't as catchy.

As for 'healthy' porn, POV porn and solo stuff is least unhealthy, as other genres involve watching other men have sex with the women you are attracted too, you are sexually wiring yourself to be a cuckold.

I'm not sure how valid it is, but here's something thought provoking about the psychological origins of fetishes a /pol/fag wrote.
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That's complete total bullshit. Watching porn does not turn your into a cuck or make you want to do that shit. That has to be some of the dumbest shit I have heard in a while.

Guys watch porn where guys fuck women because they are guys and they can relate to it. If it bothers you that bad you can always watch some lesbian porn. You can watch solo stuff as well. That stuff is good.

Incel faggots moral fags and fundies sure do come up with some retarded as fuck shit.
 
Quit nitpicking, No-Watching-Porn-Or-Masturbation-November isn't as catchy.

As for 'healthy' porn, POV porn and solo stuff is least unhealthy, as other genres involve watching other men have sex with the women you are attracted too, you are sexually wiring yourself to be a cuckold.

I'm not sure how valid it is, but here's something thought provoking about the psychological origins of fetishes a /pol/fag wrote.
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Which do you think is going to go over worse, telling a girl, "Yeah, I sometimes look at porn," or "I'm four days into No Nut November!" One is going to ensure she thinks you're a fucking weirdo and avoids you like the plague. It's not the thing every one assumes every guy probably does anyways. Like I said, terminally online and mentally ill. May as well talk about how it's not girly to collect My Little Pony. lol

Some of you have problems like contextualizing 4chan due to autism. I've seen the NoFap posters now move into /x/ where they claim never cumming again is going to make them into super heroes and allow them to achieve Buddhist like Nirvana. Reading in between the lines, the threads are extremely homoerotic and it's mostly guys getting off talking about each other's dicks and semen retention. It's never about getting a girlfriend or anything else. It's literally homos roleplaying together. The fact some /pol/acks unironcially take health advice from those people instead of doctors that tell males release every so often prevents testiculous cancer is hilarious.
 
That's complete total bullshit. Watching porn does not turn your into a cuck or make you want to do that shit. That has to be some of the dumbest shit I have heard in a while.

Guys watch porn where guys fuck women because they are guys and they can relate to it. If it bothers you that bad you can always watch some lesbian porn. You can watch solo stuff as well. That stuff is good.

Incel faggots moral fags and fundies sure do come up with some retarded as fuck shit.
It has always and will always exist, and men enjoy whacking off to images - that’s not the issue.
The issue is it it can’t be healthy in its current form becasue of the sheer availability of it. Porn should be something vaguely shameful, not easy to access and not all prevalent. Even twenty years ago this was the case - you’d need to find a tape or a top shelf mag. That was a barrier for young people. Now it’s a click away on phones and it’s free and it’s everywhere and most of it is hardcore.
That’s a bad thing for developing brains - the visual/orgasm reinforcement pathway is very strong. Young people getting imprinted on hardcore constant imagery is a problem - this isn’t a sneaky wank to the underwear catalogue. I am sure this is one reason for the explosion of fetish behaviours and trannyism.
The odd wank to something isn’t an issue at all - becoming a coomer beholden to ever increasing amounts and severity of outlandish fetish material is a massive issue. Like they say, if it’s free, you’re the product. There’s also the way it’s shifted the Overton windows on a lot of behaviours. Anal was not the norm twenty five years ago. Now we have juries in the UK accepting ‘she liked it rough’ as a defence for beating and raping women (and young men) to death. That would never have been tried as a defence when I was younger because people would have been outraged by it.
Porn in its current form is NOT good for us.
 
Now we have juries in the UK accepting ‘she liked it rough’ as a defence for beating and raping women (and young men) to death.
This sounds like the kind of dumb propaganda that came out of 1970's 2nd wave feminism. Girls can't like it rough, it's always rape even when it's consensual because some mad hambest said so. LOL. And now it's recycled by equally fat and alone males on the "far right" (spiritual left) unironically. I can't take you people seriously, and you alwasy bring up heterosexual anal sex like you're speaking to your grandmotehr's church group and anyone cares. No self awareness. lol

And I'm so shocked with the progress of technology that access to something desirable is easier. So instead of trying to maybe adapt to current times in a reasonable manner we have dumb gen-xers and boomers who probably have failed relationships crying they had to walk 5 miles in the snow to get one Playboy and to bring in BIG GOVERNMENT to censor the internet and baby sit everyone because supposed right wing dorks have abandoned principals of personal responsibility because of /pol/ memes and want to treat adults like children.

And slippery slope arguments of government overreach are ignored because of no logical reason that can be articulated despite the fact the current left wing president is literally prosecuting his political opposition with no one doing anything to stop him. What do you think is going to happen when you hand these people the power to tell you what you can see on the net? You're going to end up behind bars for saying bad things about troons just like in the UK hellhole you think is some kind of wild west of sexual freedom. lol
 
It has always and will always exist, and men enjoy whacking off to images - that’s not the issue.
The issue is it it can’t be healthy in its current form becasue of the sheer availability of it. Porn should be something vaguely shameful, not easy to access and not all prevalent. Even twenty years ago this was the case - you’d need to find a tape or a top shelf mag. That was a barrier for young people. Now it’s a click away on phones and it’s free and it’s everywhere and most of it is hardcore.
That’s a bad thing for developing brains - the visual/orgasm reinforcement pathway is very strong. Young people getting imprinted on hardcore constant imagery is a problem - this isn’t a sneaky wank to the underwear catalogue. I am sure this is one reason for the explosion of fetish behaviours and trannyism.
The odd wank to something isn’t an issue at all - becoming a coomer beholden to ever increasing amounts and severity of outlandish fetish material is a massive issue. Like they say, if it’s free, you’re the product. There’s also the way it’s shifted the Overton windows on a lot of behaviours. Anal was not the norm twenty five years ago. Now we have juries in the UK accepting ‘she liked it rough’ as a defence for beating and raping women (and young men) to death. That would never have been tried as a defence when I was younger because people would have been outraged by it.
Porn in its current form is NOT good for us.
I don't even disagree with this. There is a difference between, it happens, you don't talk about it, and that shit is hard to get, vs I turn off safe search on google images and have thousands of women's boobs at my fingertips at the moment im old enough to punch letters into a keyboard (tablets now). Part of the reason i'm intense about this, is that especially younger zoomers, they talk about bitches and making money, nothing about the morality of the thing. They've had no moderation in their lives, no parents that kept a eye on the search history, and now their brains are rotted out by the time they're 18, having all sorts of odd fetishes.
 
There is a difference between, it happens, you don't talk about it, and that shit is hard to get, vs I turn off safe search on google images and have thousands of women's boobs at my fingertips at the moment im old enough to punch letters into a keyboard (tablets now).
If it was just boobs it would barely be an issue. It's that 12 year olds have instant access to the sickest fetish porn on the planet, well before they've had the opportunity to develop normal sexuality. In a word, it's degeneracy, not some alt-right dog whistle, but a literal degeneration of society into a more debased, corrupt form.

Worse, the Internet is crawling with already corrupted adults eager to groom these kids into ever viler forms of sickness. Thanks Discord!

When I was a kid (wheezing in senility) the worst you had access to without seriously going out of your way for it was maybe a latenight Skinemax softcore made for cable while your parents were asleep, i.e. some vanilla sex with maybe a few seconds of tits. Now it's instant access to bestiality, cockvore, shitting dick nipples, and much, much worse.

And all at an age where kids, boys obviously especially, are pimply, awkward, and of absolutely no interest to the opposite sex. So it's not like they're even getting their stimulation from a fumbling handy from Sally Rottencrotch after having to deal with an actual human first.

And they wonder why there are so many goddamn incels, troons, and other sick degenerates, because they went straight from prepubescent to hardcore cooming without any intervening steps.

It's like a coom version of what's happened with drugs. Just a couple decades back, if you were a schoolkid, maybe you could score some stemmy, seedy brickweed off that skeevy 19 year old dude who was always selling shitty weed. Now you can get some insane 30% THC shit that knocks you off your ass for a whole day.
 
If it was just boobs it would barely be an issue. It's that 12 year olds have instant access to the sickest fetish porn on the planet, well before they've had the opportunity to develop normal sexuality. In a word, it's degeneracy, not some alt-right dog whistle, but a literal degeneration of society into a more debased, corrupt form.

Worse, the Internet is crawling with already corrupted adults eager to groom these kids into ever viler forms of sickness. Thanks Discord!

When I was a kid (wheezing in senility) the worst you had access to without seriously going out of your way for it was maybe a latenight Skinemax softcore made for cable while your parents were asleep, i.e. some vanilla sex with maybe a few seconds of tits. Now it's instant access to bestiality, cockvore, shitting dick nipples, and much, much worse.

And all at an age where kids, boys obviously especially, are pimply, awkward, and of absolutely no interest to the opposite sex. So it's not like they're even getting their stimulation from a fumbling handy from Sally Rottencrotch after having to deal with an actual human first.

And they wonder why there are so many goddamn incels, troons, and other sick degenerates, because they went straight from prepubescent to hardcore cooming without any intervening steps.

It's like a coom version of what's happened with drugs. Just a couple decades back, if you were a schoolkid, maybe you could score some stemmy, seedy brickweed off that skeevy 19 year old dude who was always selling shitty weed. Now you can get some insane 30% THC shit that knocks you off your ass for a whole day.
This is what i'm talking about. Gone are the days of having to search for the deep nasty shit, if you want some cumflation 5 way futa scat guro furry gangbang... well, if it doesn't exist, i know you can pay someone to make it with either cash or bitcoin, all from your phone. And that person will think it's normal as he will now go further down that rabbit hole, skipping boobs entirely.
 
This is Professor Alan McKee.
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Do you want him (?) in your porn?

From the page of Sydney U.

PhD Communication and Media Studies (University of Glasgow)
Head of School of Arts, Communication and English
Professor, Discipline of Media and Communication


Alan McKee is an expert on entertainment and healthy sexual development. He recently completed an Australian Research Council Discovery grant entitled ‘Pornography’s effects on audiences: explaining contradictory research data’, which is reported in the book What Do We Know About the Effects of Pornography After Fifty Years of Academic Research? (Routledge, 2022). He has published on healthy sexual development, and entertainment education for healthy sexuality in journals including the New Media and Society, Archives of Sexual Behavior, the International Journal of Sexual Health, the Journal of Sex Research and Sex Education.


Academic feminist will make you persona non grata pronto. How dare you slutshame? Sex work is work!
Late and gay, but lmao it's always these sorts who profess to be experts on this field. No biological expertise, no psychological education; just another secretely pedophiliac midwit libtard who thinks he can indoctrinate the next generation with a bit of taxpayer-funded spiel.

As repeatedly said by this thread porn is a vice which like alcohol can be consumed in moderation. It's an issue which would go away if we had normal societal relations between man and woman, but lo and behold third and fourth wave feminism ending any opportunity for that. Will take a bit of a reckoning before anything in this sphere is corrected.
 
Jesus fucking Christ I was watching porn from 12 and I'm fine
You don't need a rule set for wanking, you just need to learn to separate reality from fantasy like anyone who isn't a paint drinking retard can do

I really really don't care if an adult agrees to do nasty stuff on film and I choose to watch it
These idiots cancelled religion and then reinvented it with 100x the Catholic guilt

No they don't need to have a rarted debate about the specific thing that gets them off, they need to get off and then move on with their day like anyone else who hasn't rotted their brain with critical theory would
 
With Stable Diffusion I can make porn of anyone right now, put them in bondage or SM situations, or latex outfits, or give them giant tits. If I use the weirder LoRas, I can do some really weird shit, like furry porn, cartoon characters, amputation, there's even a Lora for making living onaholes, ffs. I can have a dozen black Hitlers running a train on Adriana Chechik's broken spine, if I so want. God only knows what'll be out there in another six months.

These idiots are about thirty years late; they should've started their war on fetish porn (because that's what they're actually complaining about) way back when the Internet first started and before people learned their weirdest sexual kinks were actually incredibly commonplace.
 
They're not the first retards to think that you can make pornography political.

This has been a thing ever since the progs rose to prominence in the 2012-2014 era and they haven't made it stick yet. Thinking on it I'm pretty sure there's a few articles on here from a few years or so back about just this kind of idiotic and insane attempt to propagandize endeavor.

Funny to think though that the same shit progs and their fellow political travelers did to get porn so available in the first place has been working against them in trying to corral and control it into yet another avenue of propaganda. Very few legal routes, and none cultural really, for them to ever make these efforts amount to anything.
 
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