Can Martial Arts be self-taught? - possibly retarded

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I'm aware you need to fight/spar someone to actually do well, but before then, is it efficient to learn a form of Martial Art technique through the internet, and private practice?
 
s it efficient to learn a form of Martial Art technique through the internet, and private practice?

Unless you are some martial arts autist/savant, or already have previous training, no.

There are certain technical nuances to some martial arts that you will most likely not be able to pick up through solo practice.

You can practice some foundational techniques so you don't look like a complete beginner if you walk into someone's gym/school.

The most efficient use of your time solo is upping your coordination/cardio/agility (running, jumping rope, biking, footwork, ladder & movement drills, hand & eye reaction exercises). If you make those your strong base, layering technique on top is easier and you will avoid some of the plateaus that beginners hit.
 
Unless you are some martial arts autist/savant, or already have previous training, no.

There are certain technical nuances to some martial arts that you will most likely not be able to pick up through solo practice.

You can practice some foundational techniques so you don't look like a complete beginner if you walk into someone's gym/school.

The most efficient use of your time solo is upping your coordination/cardio/agility (running, jumping rope, biking, footwork, ladder & movement drills, hand & eye reaction exercises). If you make those your strong base, layering technique on top is easier and you will avoid some of the plateaus that beginners hit.
Ah okay that makes sense. I'll probably start working on those and see where I can go from there.
Thanks for the help, I'll definitely keep the listed activities in mind, especially since I've been meaning to go back into biking,
 
Completely from scratch? Very, very, very unlikely.

You can practice the basic form of punches and kicks, even the steps to grappling and throws from videos. That's the easy part. Knowing how to properly employ them as well as developing the necessary instinctive reaction so that you actually use these techniques instead of defaulting to wild haymakers is something that can only come from either having a proper training environment or getting into regular fights in the street.

The advice mentioned above - get the basics of physical conditioning is a good one. Developing a basic level of conditioning especially cardio is important to getting a lot out of training sessions if only for the simple fact that you're not tired all the time.

When you have a working skill set of one martial art, you can start learning other arts from instructionals. Obviously, going from one striking discipline to another is easier than going from striking to grappling (or vice versa) but there's still a tiny amount of carry over. But it is still better to have someone teach you and train with other people.
 
Not if you want to be any good at it.

t. Chronic do-it-yourselfer with no martial arts experience
 
You can practice the basic form of punches and kicks, even the steps to grappling and throws from videos.
Acshuly... no. You kick too hard the 'wrong' way, and you can do yourself some serious injury, or at the very least do it so badly you look like a prat. And even if you do get it right, you can still do yourself some serious damage. When I was doing jujitsu, we spent a lot of time on bone strengthening and pain numbing exercises. When I first started, I cracked a metacarpal by feinting a blow at a brown belt I was sparring with, who blocked it with the blade of his forearm. He'd spent years doing bone strengthening exercises, hitting his bone was like hitting concrete. Same thing with kicking; we spent a lot of time numbing and strengthening our feet and leg bones, because kicking is actually painful to you when you're trying to kick hard. And then learning the right place to kick with, that took a lot of repetition because the flexibility in your joints can really affect your extension and movement.

As for any form of grappling, even worse. It's disturbing when you learn just how easy it is to break someone's neck and your own at the same time.

If you want to learn martial arts, go to a good club. Trying to teach yourself at best will give you a lot of bad habits and misunderstandings that someone will need to train out of you later. At worst, you can really fuck yourself up.

If you're interested in martial arts as a cultural practice, no.
If your goal is self-defense, get strong. Real life isn't a Bruce Lee movie.
If you're of the female persuasion, your only real form of self defense is avoiding dangerous situations, places and people. I did intensive martial arts for two years; a male white belt could still take me down on his first day because he had weight and reach over me, and could punch me in the face before I could even get close enough to land a single blow. It was horrifying to realise just how vulnerable a woman is against an average man, regardless of how fast and strong she is.
 
Acshuly... no. You kick too hard the 'wrong' way, and you can do yourself some serious injury, or at the very least do it so badly you look like a prat. And even if you do get it right, you can still do yourself some serious damage.
Fair point, but as I posted above, proper instruction is important. You can definitely learn a front kick and not seriously injure yourself. Roundhouse kick, some risk comes because most beginners neglect to rotate their standing foot and risk twisting their knee.

I'm sorry, but the rest of your post makes it sound like you're made of paper or whatever place you attended was either hazing you or wanted to kick you out. That, or they're reckless with beginners.

That you stuck with it for 2 years is something I can salute.
If you're of the female persuasion, your only real form of self defense is avoiding dangerous situations, places and people. I did intensive martial arts for two years; a male white belt could still take me down on his first day because he had weight and reach over me, and could punch me in the face before I could even get close enough to land a single blow. It was horrifying to realise just how vulnerable a woman is against an average man, regardless of how fast and strong she is.
I have a relative who's mind has been pozzed by Tumblr and thinks she's gonna be a strong whammen who would #stoprape and #protectanimals if I could teach her. But between the fact that she's just over 100lbs. and her inability to do more than 5 sit-ups, I politely told her that she's being delusional. I'm somehow a victim blamer because of that.
 
Fair point, but as I posted above, proper instruction is important. You can definitely learn a front kick and not seriously injure yourself. Roundhouse kick, some risk comes because most beginners neglect to rotate their standing foot and risk twisting their knee.

I'm sorry, but the rest of your post makes it sound like you're made of paper or whatever place you attended was either hazing you or wanted to kick you out. That, or they're reckless with beginners.

That you stuck with it for 2 years is something I can salute.
This particular club had an extensive reputation for being pretty brutal. At the time I joined, they had three members on an jujitsu international team. There were multiple alumni who were professional fighters. Also, members were congratulated and held up as examples of dedication and strength when they went in for orthopedic or joint replacement surgery, because it proved how hard they trained.

I dropped out after a couple years for a variety of reasons, amongst those being objections to the quality of the people who were making blackbelts by that stage, and four boughts of bronchitis in six months. Also, I sucked at it but still wanted to at least make the next belt but instead they wanted me to stop training and 'fundraise for the club' instead. (I wasn't the only one either.) Not long after I dropped out, word hit that our club's founder and main instructor was being investigated by the police for certain inappropriate interactions with early teenage girls.

The club basically collapsed in a matter of weeks. Doesn't exist anymore.
 
This particular club had an extensive reputation for being pretty brutal. At the time I joined, they had three members on an jujitsu international team. There were multiple alumni who were professional fighters. Also, members were congratulated and held up as examples of dedication and strength when they went in for orthopedic or joint replacement surgery, because it proved how hard they trained.
This is part of the reason why I never got into BJJ, not only is it extremely homosexual but I find a lot of crazy characters there that think getting injured makes them better disciples of Helio or something. Few times we had a guy cross training with us and it was fun.

Striking balance between hard training and business viability has always been a problem for the good places.

Not long after I dropped out, word hit that our club's founder and main instructor was being investigated by the police for certain inappropriate interactions with early teenage girls.

The club basically collapsed in a matter of weeks. Doesn't exist anymore.
Holy shit, I've met some interesting characters in martials arts, like some guys that do crystal meth regularly and a guy that did side work as a debt collector's thug, but never a pedo/hebe.
 
I am skilled in the art of smack-a-nigger-with-a-hammer.
just pay my $99.99 a month fee and maybe you too can be skilled with nigger-hammer-smacking skills

Martial arts in general are for early arthritis-havers, my friend.
 
You can't learn grappling but aside from that, you can learn most stuff on your own.
You will need to do a lot of research and really put effort into it but you can.
 
If you start by punching your friend Tyler in the ear, yeah it might be.
 
Not really, since it's something that has to work against an uncooperative opponent.

Then again, if you absolutely can't find a dojo/training partner, it's possible to solo train some sucker punching/ambush attacks that, if you're lucky, might get you through a "situation". Very basic WW2 combatives/old school jits as actual techniques (Fairbarn/Applegate, Carl Cestari's Old School Series. etc), with main effort spent on looking nonthreatening, getting close, not telegraphing, etc. Like Arab militaries of 1990s, that completely preplanned assault needs to drop the other asshole in 2-3 shots, otherwise just the butterfly effect will fuck you.
 
Then again, if you absolutely can't find a dojo/training partner, it's possible to solo train some sucker punching/ambush attacks that, if you're lucky, might get you through a "situation". Very basic WW2 combatives/old school jits as actual techniques (Fairbarn/Applegate, Carl Cestari's Old School Series. etc), with main effort spent on looking nonthreatening, getting close, not telegraphing, etc. Like Arab militaries of 1990s, that completely preplanned assault needs to drop the other asshole in 2-3 shots, otherwise just the butterfly effect will fuck you.
Yeah but I don't know if shoulder checking someone then gouging their eyeballs out is really considered the true spirit of martial arts though.
 
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