Can Jesus and science ever truly coexist?

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it would depend. they can coexist in every area where they dont contradict. for example, i am unaware of anything in the bible where jesus contradicts kepler's laws of planetary motion.
 
The "Conflict thesis" that portrays religion and science as being in some unending battle was basically created out of whole cloth in the 19th century and is pretty much the only reason anyone who isn't a euphoric retard even argues about it.

While some historians had always regarded the Draper-White thesis as oversimplifying and distorting a complex relationship, in the late twentieth century it underwent a more systematic reevaluation. The result is the growing recognition among historians of science that the relationship of religion and science has been much more positive than is sometimes thought. Although popular images of controversy continue to exemplify the supposed hostility of Christianity to new scientific theories, studies have shown that Christianity has often nurtured and encouraged scientific endeavor, while at other times the two have co-existed without either tension or attempts at harmonization. If Galileo and the Scopes trial come to mind as examples of conflict, they were the exceptions rather than the rule.

— Gary Ferngren (editor). Science & Religion: A Historical Introduction, 2002

Cavendish Labratory in Cambridge even has the verse, "Great are the works of the LORD, studied by all who delight in them." (Psalm 111:2) on the door.

Francis Bacon, the father of empiricism wrote, "I dare affirm in knowledge of nature, that a little natural philosophy, and the first entrance into it, doth dispose the opinion to atheism; but on the other side, much natural philosophy and wading deep into it, will bring about men's minds to religion; wherefore atheism every way seems to be combined with folly and ignorance, seeing nothing can can be more justly allotted to be the saying of fools than this, "There is no God".
 
God gave us brains with which we can study His world. He gave us the intelligence and curiosity to want to learn about it. He made the laws of nature, but He doesn't have to abide them. Science and Faith are therefore not in conflict.
 
It has so far. The only real wrinkles are creationism vs evolution, how old the earth is, and whether or not fossilised remains are evidence of prehistoric life or a ploy by Satan.
Personally I think the religious folk in my country care way too much about these subjects. How does being descended from apes or the world being older than what the OT says invalidate the bible in its entirety?
 
Why? Because you believe in certain things I do not?

Go ahead and explain.
No, there's intelligent people who don't believe what I believe. But only idiots think a bunch of random guys got together to die horrible deaths for a lie for the hell of it. It's absurd.
 
No, there's intelligent people who don't believe what I believe. But only idiots think a bunch of random guys got together to die horrible deaths for a lie for the hell of it. It's absurd.
Who said anything about doing it "for the hell of it"? You're assuming.

If it was done, it would have been to create change, something that was most likely seen as needed at that time. And it worked, the consequences of their actions have impacted humanity throughout the years in many ways.

So don't put retarded conclusions as if I said that, I didn't.


For example, if you believe in the miracles as if they happened how they were told, with very limited evidence of it happening that way, you believe in something I don't, but what I do believe is the possibility that some of those things were purposefully fabricated, exaggerated, or its full truth omitted for a specific purpose.

Does this sound logical to you?
 
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