BronyCon 2018

[repentance]

Oh we'd definitely clean it out regardless. When she dies I am personally going to spelunk through it to find the gun Barb fired at Cole and FINISH THE FIGHT.

Cleaning out Casa Chandler would lead to the mother of all ebay sales. Chris could probably be persuaded to get onboard if he thought there was money in it.

 

[RJ MacReady]

Considering that the family Chandler stopped routine home maintenance when Bob was alive, I really doubt that Chris can handle home ownership. He is more suited for apartment life where can call the landlord/super/manager if the drain is clogged or a pipe is leaking. They routinely clog the shower and keep drain cleaner around to deal with it. Not exactly Tim "Toolman" Taylor, are they? Home ownership is just added cost and stress that he should not deal with. Assuming Barb dies at home, Chris should just stay there until they boot him and then move into a nice apartment or some type of shared housing arrangement. If Barb is whisked away to long term care, same plan only before she dies.

Lol, 14BC has been a trash heap for decades and it's still standing, even after a fire. It doesn't require much maintenance to sustain Chris's standard of living.

I seem to notice a trend of people thinking Chris can't succeed because he doesn't meet their personal standards. If you don't want much, you don't need much - and Chris doesn't want much.

 

[PuckishRogue]

Yeah, @Null if you're hoping section 8, get him signing that shit now. There may also be some sort of rent assistance if you can get Chris to be 1000% honest about his state of mind, as folks with some sort of mental disorder (anxiety and depression work, but his autism could as well) can get assistance faster than just the average poor person. In some cases, he may even be able to use both and pay a laughably small amount for a decent one bedroom apartment.

 

[repentance]

Lol, 14BC has been a trash heap for decades and it's still standing, even after a fire. It doesn't require much maintenance to sustain Chris's standard of living.

I seem to notice a trend of people thinking Chris can't succeed because he doesn't meet their personal standards. If you don't want much, you don't need much - and Chris doesn't want much.

I think people are more concerned about Chris managing the "shit happens" part of home ownership than the predictable expenses. That said, Chris is relatively successful at e-begging so if major appliances die or if the house needs new plumbing or electrical work he can always turn to the internet rather than becoming one of those hoarders who lives with no running water or without electricity when something fails.

 

[Chrus Chundlur]

Do you guys realize Barb will probably live into her 120s just out of spite?

 

[idosometimes]

Lol, 14BC has been a trash heap for decades and it's still standing, even after a fire. It doesn't require much maintenance to sustain Chris's standard of living.

I seem to notice a trend of people thinking Chris can't succeed because he doesn't meet to their personal standards. If you don't want much, you don't need much - and Chris doesn't want much.

I seem to forget everyone on here is 12, living with they moms, and has never owned property. The home is still standing because they had insurance, which paid for a covered event. Other stuff is up to him. Leaks can cause an insane amount of damage and would most likely be his responsibility. Eventually a house needs a new roof. Appliances can fail. And so on. These things cost money--the stuff your mommy and daddy get for going to work. Call me crazy, but he is not going to be able to beg his way through life forever.

Most of this can be avoided by living in an apartment.

 

[Mason Verger]

Ah it'll be tough to find a landlord that'll rent to Chris. If the face to face doesn't ruin it, the background check would.

There are some that'll take him on, in my neck of the woods it's usually some shifty Persian or Greek fucker. They'll rent to anybody as long as the check comes on rent day. Don't dare get behind, I'm sure Chris's lease will be month to month.

 

[PuckishRogue]

Ah it'll be tough to find a landlord that'll rent to Chris. If the face to face doesn't ruin it, the background check would.

There are some that'll take him on, in my neck of the woods it's usually some shifty Persian or Greek fucker. They'll rent to anybody as long as the check comes on rent day. Don't dare get behind, I'm sure Chris's lease will be month to month.

If he gets on section 8, he'll have no problem getting an apartment. No landlord is going to balk at a check that will come in regularly, even if the small portion the tenant has to pay comes in a day or so late.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Correct. The worst case isn't much better than the best case. When it's timely I'll have someone visit to see what the conditions are like.

I would rather Chris not have to pay rent. A mortgage would be less than rent, and it would eventually not be needed. The extra money could go to paying a helper to visit once a week to ensure he's not in squalor.

Chris is going to have an issue getting a decent mortgage (and by decent I mean not paying insane interest rates) without a regular job. Banks don't like lending money to people without jobs, even if they got a tugboat. It's why the 14BC mortgage was sold to a vulture mortgage company.

Best setup would be to rent and have rent be autopaid on the day he gets his tugboat. If he rents, he doesn't have any upkeep on the house other than cleaning

Lol, 14BC has been a trash heap for decades and it's still standing, even after a fire. It doesn't require much maintenance to sustain Chris's standard of living.

I seem to notice a trend of people thinking Chris can't succeed because he doesn't meet their personal standards. If you don't want much, you don't need much - and Chris doesn't want much.

The issue is that Barb owes a lot of money to creditors. Since the house is under her name and not Chris's, when she dies, the estate (including the house) first goes to the people she owes money to.

 

[repentance]

Most of this can be avoided by living in an apartment.

I suspect that for Chris this would be psychologically similar to an old person moving to a care facility. While he'd still have his freedom, having to part with a lot of his possessions would have a massive impact on him.

If he were easy to live with, the best option would be for him to keep the house and get a boarder in to help with expenses but I doubt that's a realistic option and I suspect that there's not enough equity in the house to make keeping it as an investment property an option either.

 

[Mason Verger]

If he gets on section 8, he'll have no problem getting an apartment. No landlord is going to balk at a check that will come in regularly, even if the small portion the tenant has to pay comes in a day or so late.

True, but landlords still want to protect their equity. The government might help with the rent, but on paper Chris is a high risk tenant. He started a fire in his house. A landlord has the right to reject a tenant. There's plenty of landlords that don't fuck with section 8s.

I mean, would you rent to Chris?

 

[repentance]

True, but landlords still want to protect their equity. The government might help with the rent, but on paper Chris is a high risk tenant. He started a fire in his house. A landlord has the right to reject a tenant. There's plenty of landlords that don't fuck with section 8s.

I mean, would you rent to Chris?

Chris won't have a rental history, which is probably going to be the biggest problem. That said, there are always private rentals available and there are programmes which help people with disabilities get and maintain tenancies in the private market. Much will depend on what resources Chris has around him doing the legwork at the time it becomes an issue.

 

[Buck Mullet]

Do you guys realize Barb will probably live into her 120s just out of spite?

My money is also on Barb staying above ground for many years to come. She does not smoke, her drinking days are probably long over, and if some incurable fatal disease was going to claim her it likely would have manifested itself by now. That said, assuming her diet is relative shit and she's as sedentary as suspected, she is going to need more care than Chris can provide in the not too distant future.

Really the best thing Chris could do is to encourage her to get out and be more active. Not to strengthen her body and spirit, but increase the chance she takes the last old lady fall that finally sends her death spiraling into a new forever home at Shady Pines.

 

[4Macie]

Bronycon 2019 being the last one.... why? Isn't that shit event huge revenue for the hotel/venue/hosts of the event? I can't imagine the brony community is dying out....
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they use "Bronycon 2019 is the last one" so that a shit ton of bronies pull together to go, double the usual revenue, and then they say something to the effect of, "Since the community has proven this is what it wants, Bronycon 2020 is in the works!!" and just hold Bronycon over bronies' heads until the end of times.

We've seen bronies spend money up the butt for things like their own OC/recolor fanart and other items. There are artists out there that make some serious bank off of bronies. I just don't see why they'd just stop them...unless they're just sick of hosting them. In that case, someone else will probably pick it up.

 

[PuckishRogue]

True, but landlords still want to protect their equity. The government might help with the rent, but on paper Chris is a high risk tenant. He started a fire in his house. A landlord has the right to reject a tenant. There's plenty of landlords that don't fuck with section 8s.

I mean, would you rent to Chris?

Chris started a fire in a hoard his mother created. The hoard is, by far, the thing that was the highest risk for the fire, not Chris himself. While I agree, he's an oddball, the point stands: it won't be impossible for him to rent, especially if he has Section 8 or other government assistance.
Hell, there are even apartment buildings geared toward the disabled and the elderly, and those places are way less picky and prepared to deal with someone of Chris' mental fortitude. If he can find one of those with section 8 he'll be sitting pretty.

 

[idosometimes]

last bronycon

The original contract was through 2019. Attendance has fallen like a stone. They reportedly had venue through 2022, but it seems that this is not the case. This is not the only adult pony fan thing that is hurting. The LA closed up years ago and the Europe one has even worse attendance than BronyCon.

Do you guys realize Barb will probably live into her 120s just out of spite?

If she actually has dementia and not just Chris saying that, she will not live to be 100. Average survival for dementia after diagnosis is like 5 years.

True, but landlords still want to protect their equity. The government might help with the rent, but on paper Chris is a high risk tenant. He started a fire in his house. A landlord has the right to reject a tenant. There's plenty of landlords that don't fuck with section 8s.

I mean, would you rent to Chris?

He is a member of a protected class. You cannot discriminate against him. He just needs an advocate to help him if he indeed goes the apartment route.

 

[Mason Verger]

Chris won't have a rental history, which is probably going to be the biggest problem. That said, there are always private rentals available and there are programmes which help people with disabilities get and maintain tenancies in the private market. Much will depend on what resources Chris has around him doing the legwork at the time it becomes an issue.

Forget rental history, a basic background check will bring up two assault arrests and four trespassing charges. That's assuming they don't simply google "Christine Weston Chandler". A lot of those advocacy groups get clients placed, but they tend to have a fraction of the baggage Chris does. I'm not saying he won't find something, I just don't think it'll be very nice.

Chris started a fire in a hoard his mother created. The hoard is, by far, the thing that was the highest risk for the fire, not Chris himself. While I agree, he's an oddball, the point stands: it won't be impossible for him to rent, especially if he has Section 8 or other government assistance.
Hell, there are even apartment buildings geared toward the disabled and the elderly, and those places are way less picky and prepared to deal with someone of Chris' mental fortitude. If he can find one of those with section 8 he'll be sitting pretty.

The hoard fed the fire, but Chris started in by running a frayed extension chord over a bathroom door.


My point is, it's not his disability or money that will make him an undesirable tenant. It's a lot of the other shit that won't be ignored. If the section 8 waiting list is as long as people are saying, that means plenty of other clients that landlords aren't stuck settling for Chris.

 

[Jack Awful]

Do you guys realize Barb will probably live into her 120s just out of spite?

Out of spite? Nah. Making her live in a trash dump alone with her autistic transgender manchild son who she depends on because her body's slowly rotting away is god's way of punishing her for fucking up Chris so badly if anything.

 

[RJ MacReady]

I seem to forget everyone on here is 12, living with they moms, and has never owned property. The home is still standing because they had insurance, which paid for a covered event. Other stuff is up to him. Leaks can cause an insane amount of damage and would most likely be his responsibility. Eventually a house needs a new roof. Appliances can fail. And so on. These things cost money--the stuff your mommy and daddy get for going to work. Call me crazy, but he is not going to be able to beg his way through life forever.

Most of this can be avoided by living in an apartment.

If you really think Chris couldn't afford to occasionally replace a shitty appliance or get a leak fixed, I don't know what to tell you. You're absolutely determined to believe that he's not capable of sustaining the bare ass minimum he needs to live in filth despite him having done so for nearly 7 years with Barb eating up most of their money on top of his own financial incompetence.

If the house has been rendered beyond salvaging by the reverse mortgage (and it probably is) then it doesn't matter anyway since Chris will have to move, but it's not like he wouldn't be able to keep living there in the event he could. There's many people who live in far shittier conditions for far longer than Chris has.

 

[repentance]

My point is, it's not his disability or money that will make him an undesirable tenant. It's a lot of the other shit that won't be ignored. If the section 8 waiting list is as long as people are saying, that means plenty of other clients that landlords aren't stuck settling for Chris.

Counterpoint : Phil got subsidised housing.

There's also a thing called head-leasing which a lot of community housing providers use. The organisation takes the lease on the property and is responsible for the rent and some of the maintenance and the owner plays no role in the vetting of tenants.

If the house has been rendered beyond salvaging by the reverse mortgage (and it probably is) then it doesn't matter anyway since Chris will have to move, but it's not like he wouldn't be able to keep living there in the event he could. There's many people who live in far shittier conditions for far longer than Chris has.

There's no reverse mortgage. There was a very large mortgage on the place when Bob died and it's thought that Barb has since added to that by taking out a second mortgage/HELOC. Information on liens against property isn't easily found on the county website, but I suspect someone will eventually do a paid search to find out the exact amount for which the property is encumbered.