UK British News Megathread - aka CWCissey's news thread

Overly Serious · 29 de Jun, 2026

SchizoDaemon dijo:
The intelligence services probably have anyone that is likely to do anything like that already under surveillance.

Maybe. But the entire British enforcement apparatus relies on no more than ten people doing anything at any one time. Police are shuttled up and down this country like pinballs from one protest to another. And courts prioritise whoever appeared in the media this week with everyone else waiting months or a year for their hearing.

The whole thing is creaking like a cane chair under a very fat man.

And getting worse.

EDIT: Ninja'd by an otter. Sneaky little creatures.

I'm a Silly · 29 de Jun, 2026

This Chertsey Protest just got upgraded:

[1:45:15 if not properly stamped]

Heinrich Maneuver · 29 de Jun, 2026

Man arrested in Glasgow after chasing people with a pickaxe (X). At least four sexual assaults have been reported over the weekend, including a 16 year old raped in a Glasgow Park (X)

teriyakiburns · 29 de Jun, 2026

Arm candy (dad's squeeze) just predicted next general election will result in an attempted labour/tory coalition. She's very normie, so it's interesting she'd come out with this.

Heinrich Maneuver · 29 de Jun, 2026

teriyakiburns dijo:
labour/tory coalition.

I've seen people predicting this to stop a right wing ("right wing") government, and to save their own jobs. Lowe's team is still threatening retroactive prosecutions for immigration laws and transing children.
Burnham's speech was wet tissue shite. He will not survive PMQs if Kemi goes for him like she did for Starmer in his final weeks, but she was talking about how she is fond of him or whatever. It's entirely possible. Democracy is a farce.

SchizoDaemon · 29 de Jun, 2026

Otterly dijo:
How? There’s a lot of them and resources are seriously stretched. There’s a big difference between identifying a few thousand people by snooping online and actually stopping them doing stuff IRL.
If a couple of percentage of the general population are capable of doing this kind of thing, and a small percentage of them actually do it, and they don’t talk about it online and they don’t take their phones along then there is no possibility of stopping them all.
‘Known to intelligence’ is one thing. We will all be nicely tagged with the data point that we post here. Is someone following every single one of us to make sure we don’t nip out at night with ill intent? How about everyone who makes makes anti immigrant Fb posts or similar? That’s a lot of people.
The entire apparatus relies on a very wide net being cast and then targeted guesses because people talk online and within a listening ear. If something akin to the troubles started up again where a decent number of people were organised and the majority were supportive you’d see this kind of thing happen constantly.

There are a lot of 'ifs' in there. I don't think the vast majority of people are supportive of arson. I know for a fact that most people's OpSec is garbage, and often criminals make lots of dumb mistakes that will make it easy to identify them; this goes for people that should really know better as well.

As for groups online such as these and other groups on social media, I don't think they are nearly as big as people claim them to be. Anyone that is active is going to be a small minority of people in any group (this is the classic Pareto 80/20 rule), and often even in places like here, it is possible to cross-reference enough information to narrow people down.

Otterly dijo:
The idea that intelligence could stop it all is propaganda.

Overly Serious dijo:
Maybe. But the entire British enforcement apparatus relies on no more than ten people doing anything at any one time. Police are shuttled up and down this country like pinballs from one protest to another. And courts prioritise whoever appeared in the media this week with everyone else waiting months or a year for their hearing.

I think that people in these circles underestimate the abilities of the British state for suppressing dissent. Things are probably worse and better than what you've heard.
I don't think it can stop all of it; I wouldn't claim such a thing. The question is what percentage of attacks can they stop?

MongInTheMirror · 29 de Jun, 2026

Overly Serious dijo:
Maybe. But the entire British enforcement apparatus relies on no more than ten people doing anything at any one time. Police are shuttled up and down this country like pinballs from one protest to another.

On this point: did some digging for a project I'm working on, collating known proportions for certain organized protest acts (e.g. burning a car, storming a house for migrants, etc), the number of physically dispersed events, and eyewitness accounts of crowd sizes in Belfast trying to come up with a rough idea of total participants. The PSNI publicizes the number of arrests made after riots and such, but never any kind of estimated figure of those involved. Anyway, long story short the very conservative estimate band I came up with was anywhere between 500-900 or so people, referring specifically to the masked-up, all-black wearing young fellas active 9-10th June.

There were 18 total arrests reported over those two nights, no new apprehensions since. Depending on whether you set your assumed figure of participants to the lower or higher end of the band above, that would indicate between 2-4% of those lobbing petrol bombs around Belfast those nights actually got nabbed by the PSNI. That's with them gunning at full capacity, plus calling in I think an extra 200 or so bobbies from across the water. Make of those figures what you will.

Overly Serious · 30 de Jun, 2026

SchizoDaemon dijo:
I don't think the vast majority of people are supportive of arson.

Few actively want to participate. What the majority of people want, is simply security and some measure of opportunity. And typically they'll fall in behind whichever group they think is most likely to provide stability that allows those things. Most revolutions are carried out by a minority of the population. It's a misconception that the overthrow of government requires a majority to be active against it. It also doesn't need to be full revolution, either. The Irish don't (mostly) want to overthrow their government, they want it to stop and reverse the mass migrations it is doing. And here's my original point - it's working. Migrants are being shipped out of Ireland and moved to England, Scotland and Wales.

The other thing that is a key ingredient to revolution is participation of the Middle Class. Nearly every revolution we have, from the French to our own, results from the Middle or Merchant Class finding solidarity with the Working Class. It's why the State went nuts over the original EDL calling it "suits and boots" and pulling out all the stops they could to infiltrate, subvert and denigrate it. Because you had Middle and Working class finding common cause and both joining up. It is perhaps the biggest reason ethnic solidarity is targeted above all else - because it transcends class boundaries.

Also, more people are supportive of such things as say they are. My point really is simply that the vast majority of people don't need to be supportive of arson for it to work. Imagine you're a landlord or hotel owner. The State says here's a guaranteed income for this long period, to let us house immigrants there. That's one thing. If the community around it say "Foine, and wo'll burn eet down, after," that's another.

Now I should say that I'm only making observations here, but I think they're correct.

SchizoDaemon dijo:
I know for a fact that most people's OpSec is garbage, and often criminals make lots of dumb mistakes that will make it easy to identify them

One of the things that very much surprises ordinary people until they either become criminals or are victims of criminals, is how even with crap OpSec, crimes go unprosecuted.

Not if the media bring attention to it - then it's a call from the Chief Superintendent and all hands on deck. But if not...

BongoMongo · 30 de Jun, 2026

Honestly the security services in a complete state of disarray. You'll only get done for something if you actively plot and do something, or if it's politically expedient to haul you to court, like with the Southport rioters.

Anyone else notice the complete absence of prosecutions when muslims who set fire to the police station when that ruckus kicked off at Manchester airport? That's because there weren't any,they knew the muslims would go ballistic if that happened so they didn't do anything.

Number gorillion of things I never thought I would say,but perhaps we need to start stopping to their level on this one, because it fucking works.

Otterly · 30 de Jun, 2026

SchizoDaemon dijo:
I don't think they are nearly as big as people claim them to be

I give you The Troubles.
Now I shall precede this by saying that I am not going out burning anything, nor would I incite others to do so, this is simply my opinion having lived through said Troubles.
The troubles were interesting because you had a fairly small group of ‘active’ people Doing Actual Things but you had almost everyone around them supporting them in some way. Whether that was one side or another, and whether it was active support or the sort of blind eye turned, it was still support. I think we are now reaching that sort of setup - the majority of people are like me. They aren’t going to go out with a petrol can and a lighter, but they are going to think anything between ‘i don’t care’ and ‘good’ when they see a migrant centre burned down. People won’t be dobbing their brother in when he comes home smelling of petrol. They’ll be washing his clothes and insisting he was at home having dinner and a movie with them. Maybe they’ll chuck the Alexa out and leave their phones in a different house.
The British state is very good at suppressing dissent, it’s very good at finding visible loci of unrest and subverting them. Farage is great example, a figurehead who has no real intent on being genuinely disruptive. Nowadays you’ve got the palantir type stuff which minority reports a lot of stuff too. You’ve got a good grip on the classical media and they’re ever so good at using language to soften and down play or to simply not talk about things at all. This I’m sure leads to a set of impressions that things are more or less under control. Metrics will be good!
And yet…what happens when everyone is involved somehow?
You’ve still got absolutely nothing that can cope with anything like the troubles. That happened very recently. You’ve got very few actual bodies to go and stop actual crimes. Large scale civil unrest is not stoppable. Lone wolf attacks on targets are not stoppable.
People’s tolerance is gone. Even very moral people who would shop that brother if he’d beaten his wife or assaulted a girl, we aren’t talking clan omertà here, but those people will not shop someone in.
The system works on fear and hauling a few people up before the courts. That why lucy connelley or whatever her name was was jailed - the Tory councillors wife. that’s your middle class mummy demographic cowed into submission.
Eventually, even that is going to stop working. The IRA type groups, all the paras, none of those groups disbanded. A lot of them moved to the costas and got into the drug trade and are probably even harder now than they were. They’re still there. They still have the knowledge of how to bring the government crawling to the negotiating table. May I remind you that Sinn Fein won? Not for a united ireland, but for getting a permanent seat in government (and the issue still remains as a lever and rallying point, so double win!) . The troubles worked.
Again, I say this purely as an observation but violence works. The British are generally not a violent people when we don’t have to be. That tolerance is wearing very thin.

SchizoDaemon · 30 de Jun, 2026

Overly Serious dijo:
Most revolutions are carried out by a minority of the population. It's a misconception that the overthrow of government requires a majority to be active against it. The Irish don't (mostly) want to overthrow their government, they want it to stop and reverse the mass migrations it is doing.

I am fully aware of this. However, I don't think this is going to happen in England. England is not Northern Ireland.

I don't think the conditions exist. I've heard nobody I know talk about this openly except for two family members. I don't hear co-workers talk about it.
Most don't pay attention to what is going on. I've tuned a lot of this stuff out because quite honestly I was bored of nothing happening.

Overly Serious dijo:
The other thing that is a key ingredient to revolution is participation of the Middle Class. Nearly every revolution we have, from the French to our own, results from the Middle or Merchant Class finding solidarity with the Working Class.

There is going to be no revolution. Even the guy that was selling the whole Civil War narrative last year was saying that this was impossible in the UK.

Overly Serious dijo:
One of the things that very much surprises ordinary people until they either become criminals or are victims of criminals, is how even with crap OpSec, crimes go unprosecuted.

The UK is an anarcho-tyrannical state and has been for some time. That is why it turns up at your door because you've said 'faggot' on Facebook.

The British state is hyperfocused on these sorts of crimes. This isn't someone's Land Rover getting nicked and shipped off to France to be shipped to SA; this isn't someone's bike getting stolen or someone making some cash in hand by moonlighting. The state has made it very clear that it wants to prosecute everything they can around the hate crimes, including the burning of immigrant hotels, to the full extent that they can.

Otterly dijo:
I give you The Troubles.

You keep on conflating England and Northern Ireland. England is not Northern Ireland. I understand what you are trying to say; I just don't see it happening in England.

Otterly dijo:
You’ve still got absolutely nothing that can cope with anything like the troubles. That happened very recently. You’ve got very few actual bodies to go and stop actual crimes. Large scale civil unrest is not stoppable. Lone wolf attacks on targets are not stoppable.

Large-scale civil unrest that is not organised is unstoppable. They don't have to stop it, though. They are just going to let it happen, contain it and let it burn itself out and then arrest everyone afterwards. Organised civil unrest/protest is very stoppable, though.

SneedYstwyth · 30 de Jun, 2026

AssignedEva dijo:
Andy Burnham is claiming he's going to get rid of the whipping system (for Labour). I think he's going to very rapidly learn why the Whips exist in the first place.

Especially for a party as disjointed as Labour are now. Genuinely think this guy is retarded.

The devolution of powers is part of what's fucked this country since Blair, and this spaz wants to go further for it. He is genuinely worse news than Starmer, and I doubt he'll continue deportations on Starmers level.

These fucking northerners don't seem to understand that the north of England is a shithole which is a net negative for the country. The reason power is focused around London and the home counties is because they're the only reason the Britain is arguably globally relevant in the modern day. I'm dooming.

Otterly · 30 de Jun, 2026

SchizoDaemon dijo:
England is not Northern Ireland

The norns, or at least a large proportion of them, are English.
And England is being turned into Northern Ireland. The conditions did not exist, but they are being created. Two incompatible cultures and religions, worse than the prod/catholic schism. Far worse. Worse discrimination than the anti catholic stuff was. Two tier policing. Ethnic, linguistic boundaries more extreme than NI was and is. The troubles was what happened. And the conditions now in the rest of Britain are worse. More divided, denser population.
It’s already happening here, the media just aren’t reporting it.
Crime rates and violent crime rates in particular are positively linked to rises in temperature (ironically pacify people with AC would have been the best thing they could do.)
I don’t think we are going to have a civil war event (sadly) I think we are going to slide into a long, nasty ethnic conflict, just like the troubles.

SchizoDaemon · 30 de Jun, 2026

Otterly dijo:
The norns, or at least a large proportion of them, are English.

I am talking about what happens in England. Not what happens in Northern Ireland. Northern Ireland, to the vast majority of people in England, might as well be the Moon.

To exemplify this, I asked some people I know if they saw what was going on in NI, and one of the responses I got was, "Nah, I just looked it up. Have you played the new Forza?". Other replies were similar.

Otterly dijo:
And England is being turned into Northern Ireland. The conditions did not exist, but they are being created. Two incompatible cultures and religions, worse than the prod/catholic schism. Far worse. Worse discrimination than the anti catholic stuff was. Two tier policing. Ethnic, linguistic boundaries more extreme than NI was and is. The troubles was what happened. And the conditions now in the rest of Britain are worse. More divided, denser population

In some places. In a huge number of places, none of this exists, and the vast majority of people won't even understand it is going on.

SirCliveSinclairdabbing · 30 de Jun, 2026

SneedYstwyth dijo:
Especially for a party as disjointed as Labour are now. Genuinely think this guy is retarded.

The devolution of powers is part of what's fucked this country since Blair, and this spaz wants to go further for it. He is genuinely worse news than Starmer, and I doubt he'll continue deportations on Starmers level.

These fucking northerners don't seem to understand that the north of England is a shithole which is a net negative for the country. The reason power is focused around London and the home counties is because they're the only reason the Britain is arguably globally relevant in the modern day. I'm dooming.

British industry is globally relevant despite London stamping on its neck.

Otterly · 30 de Jun, 2026

SchizoDaemon dijo:
n some places. In a huge number of places, none of this exists, and the vast majority of people won't even understand it is going on.

Which huge number of places ? Everywhere is full of them. And more pour in.
During the troubles if you’d have asked the average pleb what the issue was they’d have said something about catholics and prods but had zero real idea of the history. And yet bombs went off in the Arndale just the same.
There no reason it can only happen in NI and not here - it’s the same people facing worse problems. There’s nothing special about the soil in Belfast that turns one member of the same ethnic group into a para, its conditions.
Almost all of us would prefer zero stress, conflict or strife. It was the same in NI. People are forced into it when their conditions become intolerable. The government is hoping that with just a bit more social media surveillance and a bit more ID and a few more RICU people keeping a lid on it it’ll all be Ok. All those people are incentivised to continue their existence and pay checks by reporting up that yes it works great they just need a little more budget. Palantir just need another contract, they win by getting you to think they’re doing a great job.
Meanwhile, public trust in the police and government is abysmal. Only fear of loss or consequences stops people at that point. And when you start locking people up for spicy tweets, you get to the point where someone says, ‘well, we’re late already..’

Heinrich Maneuver · 30 de Jun, 2026

Otterly dijo:
Worse discrimination than the anti catholic stuff was. Two tier policing. Ethnic, linguistic boundaries more extreme than NI was and is. The troubles was what happened. And the conditions now in the rest of Britain are worse.

One of the main (and imho, the main) flashpoints for the Troubles was the allocation of housing. Now look at all the articles and videos showing new-builds up and down the country being handed over to Serco and co by the Home Office, and how many British young adults still live at home.

SneedYstwyth dijo:
Genuinely think this guy is retarded.

Playing up the North South divide during a time of ethnic division is a fucking insane move. East Anglia and the South West have been ignored by Westminster for decades, unless the Home Office wants to dump migrants in Cambridge. Scousers and Geordies will get annoyed by the 'ooh aye ain't I a Manc' schtick. He will not survive PMQs and he will not survive abolishing the whip now you have tiny villages being flooded with 2x the population of foreigners. He wants to build more social housing than the post-war era, but as I mentioned above, the allocation of social housing in this country is completely fucked, not to mention how insane and restrictive the building regs are (ie windows).
There won't be a grand revolution there will only be more and more isolated incidents of constant violence: axe wielding blacks and cars mysteriously ramming into people and little girls slaughtered at the altar of the GDP.

SchizoDaemon · 30 de Jun, 2026

Otterly dijo:
Which huge number of places ? Everywhere is full of them. And more pour in.
During the troubles if you’d have asked the average pleb what the issue was they’d have said something about catholics and prods but had zero real idea of the history. And yet bombs went off in the Arndale just the same.
There no reason it can only happen in NI and not here - it’s the same people facing worse problems. There’s nothing special about the soil in Belfast that turns one member of the same ethnic group into a para, its conditions.
Almost all of us would prefer zero stress, conflict or strife. It was the same in NI. People are forced into it when their conditions become intolerable. The government is hoping that with just a bit more social media surveillance and a bit more ID and a few more RICU people keeping a lid on it it’ll all be Ok. All those people are incentivised to continue their existence and pay checks by reporting up that yes it works great they just need a little more budget. Palantir just need another contract, they win by getting you to think they’re doing a great job.
Meanwhile, public trust in the police and government is abysmal. Only fear of loss or consequences stops people at that point. And when you start locking people up for spicy tweets, you get to the point where someone says, ‘well, we’re late already..’

I don't want to sound patronising. I think you've been letting people wound you up online too much. I need to reiterate: England is not fucking Northern Ireland.

Are you going to get some riots and sporadic violence? Yes. But it is going to be low level, and a lid will be kept on it for years, if not decades.

A-Logato · 30 de Jun, 2026

Heinrich Maneuver dijo:
Playing up the North South divide during a time of ethnic division is a fucking insane move. East Anglia and the South West have been ignored by Westminster for decades, unless the Home Office wants to dump migrants in Cambridge. Scousers and Geordies will get annoyed by the 'ooh aye ain't I a Manc' schtick. He will not survive PMQs and he will not survive abolishing the whip now you have tiny villages being flooded with 2x the population of foreigners. He wants to build more social housing than the post-war era, but as I mentioned above, the allocation of social housing in this country is completely fucked, not to mention how insane and restrictive the building regs are (ie windows).
There won't be a grand revolution there will only be more and more isolated incidents of constant violence: axe wielding blacks and cars mysteriously ramming into people and little girls slaughtered at the altar of the GDP.

Boiling it down to North vs South is insane too since it's more or less The rest of the UK vs London. Just building more social housing is an utterly baffling, commie move. Young people don't want to live in social housing, they want to own a house and be able to do what they want with it and not be at the whim of what ever local council they find themselves under and stuck in some shit hole council estate.

The people who will take up these new council houses if they get built are foreigners and dole dossers. This isn't for the working or middle class and anyone who finds themselves on hard times will quickly find how far back on that waiting list they will be for one.

Otterly · 30 de Jun, 2026

Heinrich Maneuver dijo:
One of the main (and imho, the main) flashpoints for the Troubles was the allocation of housing.

They have never cared to know, or they’ve forgotten. The people who are handing out the palantir contracts and briefing the RICU teams and the government are either too young or never cared. They see it purely as some silly spat over a religion. They don’t see or understand it wasn’t really that, it was unfair and unequal treatment by the state system. Housing, jobs, all sorts of things. Being displaced in your homeland makes people very angry and try to kill you.
All of that is being replicated now, at a larger scale. And yet it can’t happen again here thirty years later no sir.
We aren’t getting a grand civil war, we will get ethnic conflict and the police state to match it. TPTB would do well to remember that both sides occasionally took time out from slaughtering the innocent public to target politicians, and target them effectively. Still they e all got armed details and security, so who cares about the plebs eh?

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