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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[DreinMeinVein]

If this was a man serviced and known by the mental health/council services, then they need to be held account. But after reading the entire Gang Rape report, I have absolutely no fucking faith in any public service sector in this country.

If he was with a professional 'tard wrangler, that person should be prosecuted too. I don't know what the charge would be – perhaps something similar to when someone doesn't have control of a dangerous dog? Carrying an unholstered spastic...?

Tracy Johnson is a name that deserves to be remembered. Absolute heroine for jumping into a crocodile infested pit to rescue a toddler. Hope the kid makes a full recovery.

 

[Oxyjen]

If he was with a professional 'tard wrangler, that person should be prosecuted too. I don't know what the charge would be – perhaps something similar to when someone doesn't have control of a dangerous dog? Carrying an unholstered spastic...?

Tracy Johnson is a name that deserves to be remembered. Absolute heroine for jumping into a crocodile infested pit to rescue a toddler. Hope the kid makes a full recovery.

Agreed. I kind of hope no cellphone video emerges of this though.

 

[thefreshmaker]

Hence my dislike of Sargon and the whole twitter division of restore, They managed to pry defeat from the jaws of victory by making out this was going to be a massive result for restore, 20% maybe even a shock victory?
No and now they have to eat crow despite a mildly decent showing for a new party.

I don't think it matters. The press class are well aware of what the result means and know that Restore's showing means there's a new paradigm in play.

The 20% or bust crowd will come round after the emotions have settled, as they always will. That's temporary - this election is now forever.

In the long-term, we are seeing the seeds of new paradigm being Labour-Reform-Restore in a three-way race. I highly suspect that what will happen is that Labour will begin to absorb the LibDems/Greens/etc into some coalition, Reform will absorb the Tories/LibDems into another and then there will be a shift of the populist working class base from under Labour and Reform to Restore.

This relies on things remaining as they are though; there's plenty of evidence to show that Burnham will spectacularly burn trying to wrangle anything from the Labour backbench in an attempt to get some "I'm not Starmer" bills passed and fail. Nigel is already signalling throwing his hat in to be replaced and the moment that happens Reform will just disappear as an entity. You either have a no-name, a Muslim banker, or a Tory who opened the flood gates in charge and no Reform voter wants that.

 

[F40PH]

Hence my dislike of Sargon and the whole twitter division of restore, They managed to pry defeat from the jaws of victory by making out this was going to be a massive result for restore, 20% maybe even a shock victory?
No and now they have to eat crow despite a mildly decent showing for a new party.

I suspect labour will think this is some second wind too, only to be disappointed when sacking Starmer isn't back on the ballot in future elections.

Sargon is a stupid twat who should keep his mouth shut. Most people I know who are actually involved in the inner workings of the party were aiming much lower than the retarded X and YouTube hype-men who were quoting fucking ridiculous figures like 15, 20, and 25%+. If you look at the Xeeting from actual high up party members, you can see them nudging people to be optimistic, but not unrealistic to avoid disappointment. Standing someone in this election was never about winning, it was about getting enough of a result to force the establishment to talk about us, and show the British people that we're here and we're an actual alternative to the controlled opposition and the uniparty that has raped them for the last 60 years.

Influencers put us in a really awkward position, because yes, the publicity from them helps, but when people are selling people on the party using outright lies and overinflated, unrealistic expectations, it's damaging and discredits us in the eyes of normies who get all of their news from MSM and snappy headlines. It transforms a very respectable showing of 7% into a poor turn-out in the eyes of someone who reads a Tweet from some faggot YouTuber quoting "20% is totally happening, guys!" - If they just told the truth and said "If we get more than 5%, we're on track to make an impact" people would be rightly over the moon with a 7% result.

Frankly, I think that Rupert and Co need to tard-wrangle party members who have a socialmedia presence so they don't repeat this stupid shit in future. There should be a sit down with people like Sargon and all of the other dipshits where they're politely asked to not oversell to people at the very least. It makes our entire movement look illegitimate.

 

[DreinMeinVein]

I highly suspect that what will happen is that Labour will begin to absorb the LibDems/Greens/etc into some coalition,

This could happen.

Reform will absorb the Tories/LibDems into another

I doubt this will. Maybe Tories, sure. LibDems (the party and the voters) will never go Reform.
No PL, but I was very close to someone who worked with LibDems before and after the 2010 Lib/Con coalition.
There were sensible adults in the country who felt torn between the two parties at that time. Immediately after the coalition was probably the most credible the LibDems had been in a long time, and a chance to build on their experience in power.

However, most LibDem voters were retarded students and their ilk. They left the party in droves. It almost extinguished the party.
In the years since, the LibDems have been committed to regaining the trust of retarded students, at the expense of adults who are classical liberal.

There are no LibDem voters left who would go to Reform.
But that's just my reading of it.

 

[KeeKeeCooch]

People like the "Angloid" make Restore look weaker, he message is well, but he comes across as a typical grifter.

 

[thefreshmaker]

There are no LibDem voters left who would go to Reform.
But that's just my reading of it.

Not in it's current form, now.

I should have expounded further, but my three witches prophecies is essentially that Reform will take the sensible middle of managed decline and managerial statism and BoE stability of 0.0001% growth, Labour will move further towards a quintuple lock on PIP and pensions, and Restore will remain Restore.

In that environment, I see LibDems being split down the middle between the not-quite communist youngsters who go to Labour and the not-quite Tory elders who go to Reform. An actual coalition/electoral pact may or may not happen. I also think Labour will take the lion's share of the LibDems.

Put simply, Reform can't go further right. Farage can't because he isn't, so he can only flank further left into the big-tent. The only ones willing to do so en-masse are Tories. Labour's cabinet would be pushed from the centre-left into full left by the backbench. That leaves the LibDems the opportunity to soften on their rhetoric on Reform and leave open the door for some sort of agreement with both Labour and Reform to fight Restore.

 

[Heinrich Maneuver]

UK politics is obsessed with the internet and the algorithm, people take in data from the things they see every day whether sat in traffic or on public transportation.

as much as I hate Elon Musk (for being South African, and a retard) him supporting Restore on X is both a blessing and a curse for engagement and information spreading

Labour will begin to absorb the LibDems/Greens/etc into some coalition,

Greens only if the rumours of the division within the Green party are true. There's a 'we need to be more anti-'Zionist'' camp and a 'we need to stop being so anti-'Zionist'' camp, and then the rest of them. Is it me and my social circle or did they really fall off after the council elections?

 

[Mound Dweller]

Personally, I don't give a toss what the retards on twatter are saying, normies (aka: people who actually vote) don't care about plebbit and the like either, it's pure bubble/echo chamber nonsense and is simply not something that ought to be factored into anything that approaches serious decision making.

Is it me and my social circle or did they really fall off after the council elections?

They weren't really a thing in the first place, 'member the buzz about Caroline Lucas and how Brighton was only the beginning and what a lovely extra decade in the wilderness it was? Tit-hypnotist is/was mere flavour of the month for the usual suspects, they'll be back to their true home in whatever skin the SWP are wearing soon enough.

 

[Anomalous Coward]

Mancunian candidate

thats very good

 

[Cloaca Rimjob]

nowhere is safe, comments are already turned off. Hopefully when speaking about drilling oil up north it'll include subsaharans and power tools.

 

[SchizoDaemon]

Hence my dislike of Sargon and the whole twitter division of restore, They managed to pry defeat from the jaws of victory by making out this was going to be a massive result for restore, 20% maybe even a shock victory?
No and now they have to eat crow despite a mildly decent showing for a new party.

I suspect labour will think this is some second wind too, only to be disappointed when sacking Starmer isn't back on the ballot in future elections.

Restore getting 7% was a decent showing when they weren't even a party until last year. That is a solid result for a new party, which has a huge amount of negative media.

Sargon is a stupid twat who should keep his mouth shut. Most people I know who are actually involved in the inner workings of the party were aiming much lower than the retarded X and YouTube hype-men who were quoting fucking ridiculous figures like 15, 20, and 25%+. If you look at the Xeeting from actual high up party members, you can see them nudging people to be optimistic, but not unrealistic to avoid disappointment.

I think a lot of guys like Sargon honestly start believing their own bullshit. All day most of the people he probably interacts with reinforce his points of view and are also Twitter-brained.

 

[Camo Fox]

Restore getting 7% was a decent showing when they weren't even a party until last year. That is a solid result for a new party, which has a huge amount of negative media.

I'd say 7% is pretty excellent, especially given how hard Reform campaigned and the likelihood of the right voting tactically for Reform.

 

[SirCliveSinclairdabbing]

I can respect a man with a website like that. And he’s been at this for nearly 40 years now it looks like.

It adds context to a huge water purification plant built near there 6 years ago.

 

[Scale Smerch]

It's fun watching this from the outside because it's blatantly obvious the Burnham camp is trying to pull a Carney, but the conditions for it aren't there. Carney for starters never had to fight to trigger a leadership race, Trudeau stepped down fairly quickly once pushed into it - the Sock Boy had none of the autistic lawyer rule-smithing of Starmer to convince himself to stick around, nor a majority giving cover for stupid decisions. Plus the Canadian Libs have no formal mechanism for their caucus to trigger a leadership review outside of post-election losses; Starmer has far more opportunity to wreck Burnham's chances given it requires putting people on record during a period where no election must be called.

Assuming Burnham wins too the political landscape isn't favourable towards not just restoring Labour popularity, but growing it. Carney won by painting the Canadian Cons as Trump lovers and effectively eradicating the NDP as a political force - i.e. vote splitting was rarely the cause of Lib holds and pickups, they won by capturing the Red Tory/left vote. Labour doesn't have anything of the same this time around. They can paint Reform as chud-right all they like - but how does that convince people to vote Labour when the Cons, Lib-Dems, and Greens are doing the exact same thing? If there's a vote split it'll be among the established parties which ironically lets Reform run up the middle (and is what all recent polling shows is happening). Only chance is fracturing the Reform vote to make a true free for all, but that would necessitate giving mainstream attention to Restore and you know that won't happen.

TL;DR: Labour is fucked no matter who they pick, they're shuffling the chairs on the remote possibility the iceberg was a figment of the imagination.

 

[Gay Sex Enjoyer]

we're outperforming the LibDems and Tories.

See now this made my day.

 

[Symbol of the Chud]

See now this made my day.

Other than stealthily defecting to reform I am not sure what the tory plan even is anymore. The party leader is a literal Nigerian tourism baby.

 

[Gay Sex Enjoyer]

Honestly I'm genuinely shocked at Restore getting 7%.

That's completely insane for a party that didn't even exist, what, a year ago? If that trend stays steady then the future is bright.

 

[F40PH]

See now this made my day.

I don't get how it couldn't make anyones day. The party that ruled over our country for 14 years and turned it into Niggerhell alongside the current pack of cunts didn't even get half of what we got. There is no going back after this level of humiliation, the political landscape in this country is forever changed and it's now just a matter of time before the rest comes crashing down as well. We fucking raped them, and we're eventually going to rape Labour and then Reform as well when they inevitably fuck everything up after the next general election when the Tory mask slips. It's not a matter of if, but a matter of when at this point. No amount of socialmedia control, censorship, and covering up of child rape is ever going to reverse this. They're scared, and they know that they're on borrowed time, it's why they're so desperate to tighten the leash while they're still holding it. It's a cowardly last ditch effort to cling to power that won't work.

People who support what Restore stands for need to be more optimistic and unified instead of bitch slapping at each other and crying over what is a fucking amazing result for our tiny party that has gained this much traction despite the establishment actively trying to ignore our existence. Don't let demoralising faggots get you down, bros. I'm celebrating our 7% over a few pints with the lads in the pub tonight and so should you lot.

See you at the next election, cunts!

 

[Symbol of the Chud]

Here's a question, lads.
In your area, have you noticed any sort of uptick in England flags around that weren't already up for the World Cup? (As in, flags put up for Raise the Colours that never went down)
Because outside of the local pub, my area hasn't got any additional flags. I'm hoping this is the start to the end of the captive fascination our country has to niggerteam playing the semen slurping sport that is modern football.