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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[Symbol of the Chud]

Restore never should have ran in this election because anyone with brains would see everyone, EVERYONE wants Starmer gone. The fastest way to get rid of Starmer is to vote Burnham. What happened? Burnham won a landslide.

Hard disagree. I don't want Restore to end up becoming the Potential man of Politics (If restore ran... , when restore show their candidate at the next by-election! etc) , and coming third means that they can't really be ignored anymore. You can't be a political party if you keep sitting in the cuck chair and not fucking doing anything. 6% isn't ideal, but it's a start.

 

[Chunky Salsa]

Carl of Swindon's uncanny ability to be wrong about everything.

Wait, did Karl say that Restore would win? Insane if so.

 

[Symbol of the Chud]

Wait, did Karl say that Restore would win? Insane if so.

the quarter nigger in him made him incapable of understanding statistics.
Jokes aside he's just an autist who gets too excited about his special interests.

 

[Anti Lolicon Bomb]

Hard disagree. I don't want Restore to end up becoming the Potential man of Politics, and coming third means that they can't really be ignored anymore. You can't be a political party if you keep sitting in the cuck chair and not fucking doing anything. 6% isn't ideal, but it's a start.

I'm not saying they shouldn't run, I am saying this was not the one to do your big branch out. This was a referendum on Starmer and Burnham was the "Fuck that guy" option.

Eh... it's all so so. The attention and the fact it wasn't a clear disaster either means they aren't really hurt from it.
I don't think this election says anything other than people hate that fat faggot Starmer.

 

[HTTP Error 404]

Wait, did Karl say that Restore would win? Insane if so.

No. That user is a Sargon of Akkad a-log who sees a good opportunity to a-log, or however the hip kids call "troll" nowadays. The hope was always that Restore would overperform (anything over 6%) but there was never any realistic chance that Andy wasn't going to win.

6% is exactly in line with what everyone expected, a little lower than hoped, a little higher than Reform was selling (they claimed sub-2%). It's actually the worst possible result for Reform because they can't claim Restore split the vote as even combined they wouldn't have beat Labour, AND Restore is now in a solid "can no longer be dismissed outright" 3rd place.

 

[Moja Zemlja]

I'm not going to doom over it.

Its likely that despite being a Labour victory the inevitable leadership struggle is going to hurt Labour long term, very much an own goal.

 

[Symbol of the Chud]

I'm not saying they shouldn't run, I am saying this was not the one to do your big branch out. This was a referendum on Starmer and Burnham was the "Fuck that guy" option.

Eh... it's all so so. The attention and the fact it wasn't a clear disaster either means they aren't really hurt from it.
I don't think this election says anything other than people hate that fat faggot Starmer.

the only risk that Restore really took with this by-election was the Reform faggots actually doing well and being able to claim that Restore let Burnham get in. Fortunately, Restore were smart enough to understand that Reform are full of fucking retards who actively turn people away from voting for them (Hello saar I am heer to talk to you about the deportings of the reformings party) so that wasn't an issue.
They ran a fairly dogshit candidate that had no media or even really online presence whatsoever and still did pretty well all things considered.

 

[RGK5H]

I'm not saying they shouldn't run, I am saying this was not the one to do your big branch out. This was a referendum on Starmer and Burnham was the "Fuck that guy" option.

Eh... it's all so so. The attention and the fact it wasn't a clear disaster either means they aren't really hurt from it.
I don't think this election says anything other than people hate that fat faggot Starmer.

Then why replace him with another Labour member? Sounds like a lateral move

 

[Wimbydong]

One idea I'm toying with is the prospect of PM Burnham calling a fresh general election. I do think there exists a plausible chance of this happening as Burnham could (a) leverage his "honeymoon period" with the general electorate and (b) exploit the Reform / Restore split to get Labour over the finish line again. Of course Labour will lose the supermajority they currently "enjoy," but the momentum boost that successfully pulling a Carney or Taikaichi is great enough that I really can't dismiss the idea. Food for thought (or maybe just a yank being an idiot).

 

[Vesperus]

This is the problem with Carl of Swindon's approach and the terminally online right as a whole, he hyped the shit out of Restore, at one point they were discussing 15s and 20s. They got single digits.

Restore never should have ran in this election because anyone with brains would see everyone, EVERYONE wants Starmer gone.

To be honest, anyone getting their political punditry from Sargon should seek help.
One election has to be Restore's first, where they figure out who has what skills in putting together a campaign: Doing that with a seat they have no realistic chance of winning is a far better choice than leaving until it actually matters.
That they did that and out-performed the Conservative, Lib Dems and greens combined is quite encouraging, I think.

 

[Anti Lolicon Bomb]

Then why replace him with another Labour member? Sounds like a lateral move

???

We are years from the next general... reform winning doesn't change that, a restore win wouldn't even change that.
The ONLY way Starmer goes before then was a leadership challenge, and now we have it.

 

[Symbol of the Chud]

Then why replace him with another Labour member? Sounds like a lateral move

Please understand, the people in this country sometimes have a bad habit of falling victim to this thing called "Being retarded". It's why the people upset about immigration numbers will vote for Boriswavers, and people upset about Labour will vote Labour. (The fact that there are some who genuinely think that everything will suddenly be sunshine and roses if Starmer goes is incredible)

 

[Mound Dweller]

Rupert did get some free publicity from it

That's the prize here, Restore's main roadblock is a visibility one. Anyone choosing to listen to sargoy has bigger problems than mere optimism.
The numbers are "not great, not terrible", 5k would have been nice, but I suspect a major sticking point for people throwing in is "are they even serious", now they know.

7 years later, pink triangles will still obsess over him...

You can smash 1000 boxes in every third world shithole on the planet, but you will still be known as the "Apostolic Church wasn't trad enough" guy because that's just fucking funny.

 

[Skitarii]

You can smash 1000 boxes in every third world shithole on the planet, but you will still be known as the "Apostolic Cghurch wasn't trad enough" guy because that's just fucking funny.

And? He would've left Orthodoxy long ago if he did it solely for culture war reasons. My friend saw him in Cyprus recently.

 

[Mound Dweller]

And? He would've left Orthodoxy long ago if he did it solely for culture war reasons.

It's really fucking funny, the Armenian Apostolic Church has been formally established since 610 AD and he ditched the faith of his ancestors because of current year bullshit, the only thing keeping him orthodog is his wilful ignorance if he thinks the People's Commisariat for Religious Opium is anything better.

My friend saw him in Cyprus recently.

Working on his next "book"?

 

[Skitarii]

Working on his next "book"?

Lighting a candle and praying like everyone else.

 

[2SLGBQTIA+ 2 Furious]

One idea I'm toying with is the prospect of PM Burnham calling a fresh general election. I do think there exists a plausible chance of this happening as Burnham could (a) leverage his "honeymoon period" with the general electorate and (b) exploit the Reform / Restore split to get Labour over the finish line again. Of course Labour will lose the supermajority they currently "enjoy," but the momentum boost that successfully pulling a Carney or Taikaichi is great enough that I really can't dismiss the idea. Food for thought (or maybe just a yank being an idiot).

In other circumstances I'd agree but I don't think he can be confident enough of his personal popularity reversing Labour's fortunes to take the risk. As we know, the gulf between Labour's majority and how they are currently viewed by the public is massive. He needs to actually do something tangible to prove he's different to Starmer and he'll probably struggle to do that before the next scheduled GE in 2029.

Starmer's goons appear on TV daily and say "the PM was given a strong mandate, we're two years in, we don't want instability and division." They pay no heed to his obvious unpopularity, nor the fact that the reason he is PM is because the Tory vote collapsed because they weren't doing what they were elected to do.

Burnham has a better brand than Starmer and PM Burnham feels like one of those inevitabilities of recent years: UKIP are a joke and Farage desperately tries to hang on to a seat in parliament, but Brexit is inevitable; Johnson just wants to be a TV personality or an author or a columnist or clown around as mayor, but him becoming PM was inevitable. Hundreds of thousands join Labour to reject Burnham as leader, he goes up to Manchester and tells us his favourite Oasis tunes, becoming PM is inevitable.

 

[Airstrip One]

A couple of observations on Makerfield:

1. Burnham's decisive win indicates that Labour supporters aren't so much done with the party as they are with the man who is currently in charge. It seems inevitable now that he will become prime minister. Given that the UK is on a downward slide and his popularity can only go down, does he take advantage of the disarray on the right, and call an election in the hope of leading the country, perhaps with a reduced majority?

2. I followed the fortunes of Restore through a number of accounts on X. The one person who was conspicuous by their near absence was their candidate Rebecca Sheppard. You would have thought Frank Wright was standing. The party needs to outgrow this chummy cult of personality if it is going to succeed.

 

[KeeKeeCooch]

That's the prize here, Restore's main roadblock is a visibility one. Anyone choosing to listen to sargoy has bigger problems than mere optimism.
The numbers are "not great, not terrible", 5k would have been nice, but I suspect a major sticking point for people throwing in is "are they even serious", now they know.

This, I think Rupert knew they wouldn't win, but they're thinking long-term goals, not short-term. The true prize is coming third, having the BBC finally fucking talk about the party and show "Restore Britain" in polls as to just "independent". While a higher percentage would have been great, autists like Karl will always over-hype it, you have to love his optimism(?)

I will say I am slightly surprised in the boost in Labour, however they have been a Labour stronghold for 120 years, and perhaps people really fucking hate Starmer so much that they thought voting for Labour (even if they don't support the party in general) would be the quickest way to boot queer Starmer out, but maybe I'm giving the voters of Makerfield too much credit, or the general British voting block are entirely headless chickens who cannot vote for anyone other than the establishment that want to rape them.

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

Not the best possible result for Restore, but it's a brand new party, and utterly btfoing the Cons, Greens and Lib Dems is good for a start.

More than all three of them combined, as Restore called out when the BBC refused to have them on but instead brought in representatives from those parties.

I do hope we will be surprised like Rupert claims. If Andy Burnham gets in, do you think he'll actually have the support to overthrow Starmer? Would he be better or worse?

My prediction for the leadership challenge

• It will happen. Burnham ran on ousting the PM, failing to do so is going to tick off a lot of people
• In the time leading up to it Keir will ram in some absolutely monstrous stuff. Burnham will revoke next to none of this but some of what is put through is there for him to roll back
• If he can Keir will flood Makerfield with the rapiest of migrants as punishment for being filthy plebs. That the alternative would have been a Reform win will sail over his head
• The candidates for leadership will see some absolute loons chuck their hats in only to drop out early. My personal prediction is Angela Reynar who will "step aside" to ensure a Burnham win
• Burnham wins fairly easily
• His cabinet will make Starmer's look almost sane. I will be unsurprised if Angela comes back because it's an obviously stupid choice to make
• Despite it seeming challenging Burnham will begin a bunch of even dumber things than Keir. He'll repeat Keir's claims about having mandates, talk about decisive decisions needing to be made and do utter lunacy