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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[Almighty Space Duck]

No surprise but it's England's opening game in World Cup so wouldn't be surprised if he at it.

Will Britains presstitutes go after him like they did Bojo for being out of the country when he should have been in Downing Street working?

Answers on a postcard.

 

[Failed Lurker]

Will Britains presstitutes go after him like they did Bojo for being out of the country when he should have been in Downing Street working?

Answers on a postcard.

Of course not though more wondering how England fans will react to him being there if he is

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

Of course not though more wondering how England fans will react to him being there if he is

Here's the preview.

https://www.dailymail.com/sport/football/article-15905309/England-fans-THROWN-World-Cup-sing-anti-Sir-Keir-Starmer-chants-FA-facing-slapped-hefty-FIFA-fines-supporters-caught.html

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England fans have been warned that they cannot bring flags honouring our war dead into World Cup stadiums - because they feature a silhouette of a soldier holding a rifle.

A number of supporters whose St George's crosses feature images of British servicemen have been unable to gain permission to display them at venues - including Dallas, where Thomas Tuchel's side take on Croatia on Wednesday night.

England fans also face the prospect of being ejected from US stadiums should they make anti-Sir Keir Starmer chants throughout the tournament.

While the move to ban such flags from World Cup venues may raise eyebrows given the US' laws which give citizens the right to carry weapons, it is understood that FIFA, rather than locals, have set the rules.

Fans wanting to bring flags larger than 2m x 1.5m in need to gain written permission ahead of arriving at the stadium. They are asked to send pictures as part of their application.

Sources have disclosed that some have been left stunned when they were told that because the silhouette of the soldier, which features on many flags, was holding a rifle, they would be in breach of FIFA's regulations.

'It's madness,' said one England fan here in Dallas. 'I'd imagine if I wanted to go over the road to a Walmart buy an actual gun there wouldn't be an issue, but I can't go into the stadium with a flag honouring those who gave their lives for our country because it features an image of a soldier holding a rifle.'

The FA has been liaising with FIFA in an attempt to find a solution ahead of England's debut. They have been told that fans can bring their flags to the stadium but to be prepared for stewards telling them that they cannot enter with them. Such a scenario means those impacted face a conundrum. Many have paid hundreds of pounds for the specially-commissioned flags and would need to find somewhere safe to store them at short notice, or face missing the game entirely. Images of poppies on flags are permitted.

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An FA spokesperson said: 'We have advised our fans that FIFA can prevent flags with sensitive or political content entering the stadiums. Our team are on hand at the ground to help review flags if needed to avoid any problems occurring.'

Meanwhile, large sections of travelling supporters have been heard singing 'Keir Starmer's a w****r' during England's second pre-tournament friendly in Orlando - and the chant is already being sung in bars and pubs in and around Dallas ahead of the Croatia match.

Indeed, Daily Mail Sport has seen one St George's Cross in the city which contains an offensive slur aimed at the under-fire Prime Minister.

FIFA rules aimed at making matches apolitical events prohibit banners, flags apparel or clothing deemed to be offensive, discriminatory or political. Its stadium code of conduct also warns fans not to 'use offensive language or gestures'.

Mexico's Football Association is thought to have been fined more than $1m over time thanks to the continuous shouting of a homophobic slur by its fans.

There is a strong feeling of discontent with the Prime Minister among large numbers of England's hardcore support. The chant has been heard at numerous recent matches and appears to have made its way across the Atlantic for the World Cup.

When England defeated Costa Rica 3-0 in Orlando last week it was heard multiple times from a standing section behind one of the goals.

On Monday night it was being boomed out at various venues including at the Fort Worth Stockyards, where many England fans had gathered.

One St George's Cross, seen by Daily Mail Sport, featured the message 'Keir Starmer is a n***e'. The FA is aware of the situation.

I'm disgusted. Where's the apostrophe?

 

[Failed Lurker]

"When England defeated Costa Rica 3-0 in Orlando last week it was heard multiple times from a standing section behind one of the goals.

On Monday night it was being boomed out at various venues including at the Fort Worth Stockyards, where many England fans had gathered.

One St George's Cross, seen by Daily Mail Sport, featured the message 'Keir Starmer is a n***e'. The FA is aware of the situation."

Wouldn't be surprised to them lift a few supporters when they arrive back in the UK for hate speech pish

 

[James X Maxwell]

Will Britains presstitutes go after him like they did Bojo for being out of the country when he should have been in Downing Street working?

Answers on a postcard.

Will Bojo ever be brought to justice for his handling of COVID and the deaths he brought about?

 

[KeeKeeCooch]

So freedom of speech is now not allowed in Texas America? Where are the chud/based Americans to counter this? Trump/US government has total control of FIFA, let's be honest. Grifters gonna grift I suppose' Especially in the state of Texas, embarrassing.

 

[Heinrich Maneuver]

I'm disgusted. Where's the apostrophe?

The standard of education isn't what it used to be

So freedom of speech is now not allowed in Texas America?

They will smuggle one in and it'll be up to the underpaid overworked and likely brown security to stop them. We are 1000% getting 'Keir Starmer's a wanker' on the world stage.

'MAKERFIELD DAYS' by Will Lloyd for the New Statesman, emphasis is mine (X). Again the use of 'pogrom' popping up, first used in relation to the houses being burnt in Belfast, which I find fascinating. I love when people grab hold of a new word,
''There is a white rage in the air and no by-election is going to change that''. I'm placing my bets for a Labour/Burnham win, with Restore coming second. Reform have bottled it. The others aren't even worth mentioning.

A season of superlatives was dawning over Makerfield, a collection of peri-rural suburbs, former pit villages and towns spread beneath Wigan. The vote was seismic. Historic. Make-or-break. The chance of a lifetime. Andy Burnham had staked his political future and the future of the Labour Party on a single vote against Reform UK’s Robert Kenyon, a plumber and former army reservist, burdened by a digital fossil record of embarrassing remarks about women. Makerfield was a constituency that, like Wigan itself, like so many other places with largely white, Brexit-voting, working-class populations, was speeding to the right. Win or lose, mayor or prime minister, Burnham was being run close – terribly close, given he was the most popular Labour politician in the country up against a man who, as one union apparatchik put it to me acidly, was “only as good as the last podcast he listened to”.

The constituents of Makerfield – trying their best, frowning at their bills, staring at Facebook, feeling uneasy in blunt ways that were hard to articulate in front of journalists – had woken up one morning to find themselves the most psychoanalysed population in Europe. Greater claims began to be made as the race went on. Makerfield was not simply Makerfield. It was, a prominent pollster argued, all of Britain: “A snapshot of the country in miniature.” And what kind of country was that?

I knocked on doors for several weeks. I drank in dust-furred community clubs and backstreet pubs. I ate half a dozen meat pies. I tried to speak to the Afghans and Kurds who adorned Wigan town centre in the middle of the day. I bumped into a squad of absurdly young men canvassing for Restore in the poorest parts of Abram. I watched the crowds at the women’s rugby league in Orrell and spoke to formidable local dignitaries who had spent decades trying to keep the area’s head above water. Burnham and Kenyon didn’t really interest me. Makerfield would be forgotten in a few weeks' time. The circus, self-involved and self-serving, would move on. Yet the people here matter. What interested me was not the race, but what was happening in people’s heads in Bickershaw and Platt Bridge and Hindley – what was happening to all of us right now that meant you could meet people seized by apocalyptic fears of race war and depressed social democrats living on the same street.

I have been sent all over the country in the past two years, trying to take its temperature, check its symptoms, diagnose its ills. I found that it was becoming harder to speak about the surreal things I saw and heard in a straightforward way. Every reporter I knew who was not too blind to see what was going on was struggling in the same way. They suffered from the same queasy, plunging intimation about where we were heading. I was tired of writing and speaking about the country like it was a “normal” place full of happy “normal” communities and cheeky “normal” Brits. Nothing I saw or heard seemed “normal”. Everything was changing.

Britain is a country where it’s easier to imagine where the next pogrom will happen than how a new high-speed rail line will be built. And I am sick and tired of the six-figure salary newspaper columnists who deny the country is broken on X while masked men go door to door in grand old cities, looking for homes and people to burn. Were they daft? Did they think they were clever?

 

[A-Logato]

So freedom of speech is now not allowed in Texas America? Where are the chud/based Americans to counter this? Trump/US government has total control of FIFA, let's be honest. Grifters gonna grift I suppose' Especially in the state of Texas, embarrassing.

They probably just don't care enough to bother with it.

 

[Heinrich Maneuver]

White Women = White Death graffiti reported in Rochdale. (X) I have no idea if this is muslims hating on white women, or british men making the point that white women love to march with the Hope not Hate people.
(second one says 'White women [race traitor?], white women kills, [something scribbled out] [attacking norms?]. get cancer cunts')

 

[Mound Dweller]

is anyone talking about Lowe's report? is the news covering it?

Everybody knows, but there's 0 mention of it in mainstream media/acknowledgement from anyone outside of Our Guys , this is because the second it gets any attention is the second the mental block preventing people going HMMM in public is broken forever, which is what (((they))) fear more than anything and for good reason, the situation right now could be best described as "edge of a knoife" since that by-election is TOMORROW.
Restore getting anything near 10% will be a watershed moment, I don't have it in me to say they might win (not gonna happen lol) but you never know.

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White Women = White Death graffiti reported in Rochdale. (X) I have no idea if this is muslims hating on white women, or british men making the point that white women love to march with the Hope not Hate people.
(second one says 'White women [race traitor?], white women kills, [something scribbled out] [attacking norms?]. get cancer cunts')

This is either very high or very low IQ at work.

 

[UselessRubberKeyboard]

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White Women = White Death graffiti reported in Rochdale. (X) I have no idea if this is muslims hating on white women, or british men making the point that white women love to march with the Hope not Hate people.
(second one says 'White women [race traitor?], white women kills, [something scribbled out] [attacking norms?]. get cancer cunts')

Probably some edgy tranny teenager with a Palestine flag.

 

[Otterly]

Again the use of 'pogrom' popping up, first used in relation to the houses being burnt in Belfast, which I find fascinating. I love when people grab hold of a new word,

Totes organic tho.
I love how they say that it’s easier to imagine a pogrom than HS2. Like… good? I think we can do the ethnics cleansing on budget and on time. Ironically I know more than one person whose beloved family home was stolen by Hs2, and which now sit rotting despite not a scrap of work beginning on said rail line

 

[Eeey Valerie]

'MAKERFIELD DAYS' by Will Lloyd for the New Statesman, emphasis is mine (X). Again the use of 'pogrom' popping up, first used in relation to the houses being burnt in Belfast, which I find fascinating. I love when people grab hold of a new word,

Is that the full article? The archive is just a notice that it is for subscribers only.

 

[teriyakiburns]

PM warns Burnham against immediate leadership challenge if he wins by-election (live)

Starmer wants Burnham to hold fire until a new manchester mayor is elected. Assumes a labour mayor will win among other things. He knows any challenger is likely to win at this point, so he's trying to cling on for as long as possible.

So far, the potential lineup is Streeting, Burnham (assuming he gets makerfield), possibly Mad Ed, maybe Al Carns. I'm putting Jess Philips on the list as well, just for the fun of it.

 

[Overly Serious]

It’s Owen jones. He’s gay and writes for the guardian.

But you repeat yourself.

Ha ha ha Lammy took over PMQs, likely because of the inquiry

Please tell me they asked him who succeeded Henry VIII.

Or at least that Kemi played the Mastermind theme on her phone when he stood up.

PM warns Burnham against immediate leadership challenge if he wins by-election (live)

Starmer wants Burnham to hold fire until a new manchester mayor is elected. Assumes a labour mayor will win among other things. He knows any challenger is likely to win at this point, so he's trying to cling on for as long as possible.

So far, the potential lineup is Streeting, Burnham (assuming he gets makerfield), possibly Mad Ed, maybe Al Carns. I'm putting Jess Philips on the list as well, just for the fun of it.

I will laugh like a gibbon on nitrous oxide if Burnham loses. Of course that would probably mean Reform won which I wouldn't be ecstatic about but the look on Burnham's face would console me and Kenyon's inept post-election interview would probably provide further hilarity.

As to the social media bans. I think we all agree that high social media consumption is bad for kids; and that most kids are hitting that level. But as per usual, shifting responsibility for fixing a problem onto the government will result in two things. The original problem not being fixed and new problems being added.

The general rule for good government is to let it have as little of the public's money as possible. Then it can do less harm.

 

[UselessRubberKeyboard]

I know more than one person whose beloved family home was stolen by Hs2, and which now sit rotting despite not a scrap of work beginning on said rail line

That’s absolutely fucking awful, I’m so sorry. I’ve seen a few places with CPOs and only one hold-out in my time, and always admired the hold-outs. CPOs are disgusting. Kicking people out of their homes for some bullshit financial folly, it’s so wrong.

 

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Everybody knows, but there's 0 mention of it in mainstream media/acknowledgement from anyone outside of Our Guys , this is because the second it gets any attention is the second the mental block preventing people going HMMM in public is broken forever, which is what (((they))) fear more than anything and for good reason, the situation right now could be best described as "edge of a knoife" since that by-election is TOMORROW.
Restore getting anything near 10% will be a watershed moment, I don't have it in me to say they might win (not gonna happen lol) but you never know.

They won't win, at least I can't imagine they will. What they could do is get double digits like you mentioned, or even come in second place. Either way they have their attack pre-readied. "Restore split the vote! It's REALLY a two party system and we're entitled to all the 'right wing' votes, everything Queer Starmer does from here on out is Restore's fault!"


In other news apparently Farage let it slip even if he does get in he won't stay until the next election. He's already talking about bailing. He's literally a containment candidate, designed to waste the right's time and energy and derail them.

 

[Mound Dweller]

They won't win, at least I can't imagine they will. What they could do is get double digits like you mentioned, or even come in second place. Either way they have their attack pre-readied. "Restore split the vote! It's REALLY a two party system and we're entitled to all the 'right wing' votes, everything Queer Starmer does from here on out is Restore's fault!"


In other news apparently Farage let it slip even if he does get in he won't stay until the next election. He's already talking about bailing. He's literally a containment candidate, designed to waste the right's time and energy and derail them.

That's the benefit of "I don't care", it's not a split vote if you're not voting for what you actually want now is it? The niggle fan club simply have no argument against it. 10% or so will be the win restore needs, that's not even a cope, it's the reality. Why isn't even a thing worth intellectually going over, Reform is a hollow carcass of a big-tent and Faraggot's personality cult is the only thing holding them together, so soon as he does inevitably tap out (again) it'll be all ogre.

 

[BongoMongo]

But you repeat yourself.


Please tell me they asked him who succeeded Henry VIII.

Or at least that Kemi played the Mastermind theme on her phone when he stood up.


I will laugh like a gibbon on nitrous oxide if Burnham loses. Of course that would probably mean Reform won which I wouldn't be ecstatic about but the look on Burnham's face would console me and Kenyon's inept post-election interview would probably provide further hilarity.

As to the social media bans. I think we all agree that high social media consumption is bad for kids; and that most kids are hitting that level. But as per usual, shifting responsibility for fixing a problem onto the government will result in two things. The original problem not being fixed and new problems being added.

The general rule for good government is to let it have as little of the public's money as possible. Then it can do less harm.

Reform winning would be a massive slap in the face for Burnham and this would make it worth it.

 

[Overly Serious]

They won't win, at least I can't imagine they will. What they could do is get double digits like you mentioned, or even come in second place. Either way they have their attack pre-readied. "Restore split the vote! It's REALLY a two party system and we're entitled to all the 'right wing' votes, everything Queer Starmer does from here on out is Restore's fault!"

I hear what you're saying. But the sheer tasteless ineptitude of Reform shouldn't be underestimated.



Honestly, Restore don't need to win the election - they just need to do well. It keeps getting bigged up into a question of unseating Kier Starmer but Andy Burnham is also a twonk, the Labour party would still be in power with the same shower of idiots and the same systemic problems. If Burnham doesn't get in it's not like Kier will be able to remain in post. The second this by-election is over he will be either challenged by Burnham or challenged by others who were waiting to see if this works. He'll be gone either way. And frankly, it'll be more destructive to the Labour party if he's forced out without Burnham winning so even better.

I've just been looking online to see what coverage there is of the report. Daily Mail has nothing on it and if you search for Rupert Lowe it's just a shower of hit pieces. BBC have nothing on it, of course. Sky have reported on it and GB News have covered it because I guess they have to. But they've managed to avoid linking to it, the fuckers. TPTB are doing their best to sit on this before the by-election.

British media would rather run stories about some idiot pensioners who sailed their yacht up to a Russian warship and got honked at. "We turned 2° to port but they didn't respond". I could barely notice that with a protractor. But sure, bump a report on hundreds of thousands sexual abuse cases for it. I hope Restore tear every vote out of Reform and Labour's hands that they can and then some.