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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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REVEALED: How shadowy unit of government 'thought police' set up by ex-MI6 agent is trying to keep a lid on Britain's simmering racial tensions

Oh look, that thing that definitely doesn't exist, does. It seems to do exactly what several posters on here have claimed it does.

Interesting that this "conspiracy" is more main stream now. More details than below in the linked article -

The name of the secretive Government propaganda unit trying to manipulate events makes it sound like an innocuous back-office operation – the Research, Information and Communications Unit, or RICU.

But the dull moniker is part of the deliberate camouflage of an outfit which uses deception and skulduggery to try to manage the 'challenges' of multiculturalism.

It has also been claimed that the unit intervenes to write statements by the families of victims of potentially racially linked incidents to stop them from inflaming tensions further with their remarks.

The source said: 'You can see their fingerprints all over the statements released by the families of victims in these volatile situations – they usually have a similar tone.'
 

Absolutely fucking disgusting behaviour by the police. I’m sure they’ll wheel out the ‘bad to do it to keep him safe’ thing, too. That child will forever fear and hate the police. Well done, idiots.

The lass tweeting about it showed her arse when she called this communism though. Nah, it’s just police brutality. If we had communism we’d all be given homes and jobs by the government, and there’d be nursery places for kids and free university places for all, too. The police would still be arseholes, like.

Something very nasty will happen, a big war, a huge natural disaster, and it will force change because all this crap is luxury beliefs writ large

That’s been my fear for a few years now. It took WWII for the country to really understand poverty and class and how we could tackle that. All that has been lost now, with our porous borders and utter inability to do what’s best for Britain instead of what’s best for the EU and US. Our government, like many in Europe and North America, has slowly but surely removed the ability of the people to affect change peacefully.

There are no real political alternative parties. Those that are allowed (and not deplatformed or outright banned and jailed) are a slightly different shade of the beige drone already in power. Social media routinely censors discussions deemed ‘wrong’. Traditional meeting places have become too expensive for many people to go to, leaving them feeling alone and voiceless. Their media doesn’t represent them (and if it does, it’s only to show them how bad they are). If they speak out they’re labelled as worse than Hitler. If they protest they’re arrested and face a long legal process.

Meanwhile, it’s impossible to find a job that pays a living wage that can support even the most basic little terraced northern house, if you get sick you can’t see a doctor, the hospital will treat you like you’re wasting their time, and if you try to educate yourself to better yourself, you’re bombarded with rubbish like men can be women and all white people are evil.

In their eternal wisdom (see also: not learning from well-documented history), our government have removed so many options for democracy from the people that they have left little else but violent upheaval. Whether that will be some form of internal warfare or another world war is anyone’s guess. My money’s on the latter (we even have people online claiming nukes aren’t that bad and are eminently survivable). Europe seems to be making plans for a huge war with Russia that will utterly bankrupt the continent and will ensure we need a huge rebuild. Sounds vaguely familiar. It’s just so fucking frustrating to watch this play out and none of the thick idiots in power can see it at all. Retards.

I guess a few nuclear weapons or Oreshniks will reduce the illegal immigration problem here, at least. Keep calm and carry on and all that.
 
Then people wonder why the police don’t attend for things like burglaries and car thefts any more. If the recent ‘protests’ have shown anything, it’s that the police are powerless. They only act when it suits them, if it’s a nailed-on guaranteed nick. Otherwise the paperwork is too much. Raped kid? Too much paperwork, sorry, must’ve asked for it. Granny got mugged? Don’t walk around with your pension, luv.
What we need is someone in the know to publish a comprehensive list of all the targets the British police force are set. All the racial "equality" guidance, all the metrics they're assessed by. I think that would be very instructive to see. I expect much of the police behaviour is down to the priorities they are given from on high and I'd like to see exactly the boxes they are told to tick.

I want to believe the police are good, because someone has to be able to sort this shit out. However, experience has almost always proved that hope to be misplaced.
Knew one who'd been on the force about a year, I think. Seemed a decent sort. Already he was telling me that he was going to tell his lad to be a plumber, or anything but a police officer.
 
What we need is someone in the know to publish a comprehensive list of all the targets the British police force are set. All the racial "equality" guidance, all the metrics they're assessed by. I think that would be very instructive to see. I expect much of the police behaviour is down to the priorities they are given from on high and I'd like to see exactly the boxes they are told to tick.
Does the UK have anything like the Freedom of information Act where a government can be compelled to release information relevant to the public?
Knew one who'd been on the force about a year, I think. Seemed a decent sort. Already he was telling me that he was going to tell his lad to be a plumber, or anything but a police officer.
How feasible is it to form a rogue police force that can patrol streets and protect people and possibly even detain the criminals running the "official" police force?
 
Does the UK have anything like the Freedom of information Act where a government can be compelled to release information relevant to the public?
Yeah but one of the reasons that you can have yours denied is "The government thinks your gonna use it for bad things."
 
Does the UK have anything like the Freedom of information Act where a government can be compelled to release information relevant to the public?
Yes, it's called the Freedom of Information Act.
But in typical Westminster fashion, there's so many exceptions to what you can request it's basically worthless. If you follow the link and look at the "Exemptions" list, it covers everything from "this would be hard" to "this would make us look bad".
Rupert Lowe had a good seethe about it when he was trying to gather rape stats.
 
A thread on connecting to the Farms from the UK sounds like a good idea.
I used TOR during the Fong times and now I have a VPN but when our cunt ridden government takes the next step I'm going to be out of ideas. Half the people on here seem to be full on autastic nerds who talk in WiFi packets or something but there's a few of us who could use advice on breaking the future laws.

Apart from TOR and VPN, there isn't much choice. Both will keep going for the foreseeable future. A lot of them are compromised anyway in different ways with different forms of analysis, so they can still catch you on them. But both make the haystack bigger to find you (the needle) in it.

They could ban VPN's for personal use if you are not a registered company. That would be one way to do it, but really that's a long way off. That time would come when SHTF in a big way, and let's face it we're a long way from that now with all the bread and circuses we got. Ok, the bread is a bit stale and getting ever more expensive, and the circuses are boring as shit, but still..

The real fun will start in the next few years when the energy crisis really hits home. These are the good days! Enjoy them.

There's probably some kind of esoteric option to all the TOR and VPN stuff, but again, if it's not adopted on a massive scale so it reaches critical mass, what good is it?

I think you're safe for a while, and if you've figured out TOR and VPN, then you're already ahead of the curve. There's a few more years mileage left in this tech yet. I would say though research both a little deeper if you can because even they are not created equal. Have a back up strategy in place, like replacing your currently used VPN with another that is proven not to keep logs and any other extraneous data.

And remember, they love shit like TOR and VPN because there's many ways it can be compromised if you stick your head above the parapet and ping their RADAR. They love it that you think it's secure and keep your guard down so they can track you and gather more evidence. There's no security through obscurity, and even with TOR and VPN, you kind of need to know the limitations of both.

But for the average user that just wants to access the farms, knowing how to use both is a good idea. If you're dealing in CP or other nefarious shit, then it's fairly easy for them to catch you and hold you to account. Makes you wonder why really they don't do that more... oh yeah, honey pots and gathering more incriminating evidence, yeah right...

You're good! Just top up them TOR and VPN skills a bit. There's some surprising ways you can be caught out (running TOR and VPN at the same time, for example can be 'problematic'). Keep on top of it. There aren't really any critical mass technologies that will replace them should TPTB decide to go full scorched earth.

Enjoy the last years of this decade. The 2030's is where it will get really 'interesting'.
 
Yeah but one of the reasons that you can have yours denied is "The government thinks your gonna use it for bad things."
Isn’t there also an ‘it’s too much work’ get-out clause too? Apparently you have to be ridiculously specific about your requests or they get denied.

Along with ‘you’re gonna use it for bad things’, of course.
 
Isn’t there also an ‘it’s too much work’ get-out clause too? Apparently you have to be ridiculously specific about your requests or they get denied.

I think that's fair enough. There's already loads of cranks pumping out hundreds of FOI requests. If there was a legal responsibility to fully respond to all of them regardless of effort or merit that problem would only be amplified.
 
REVEALED: How shadowy unit of government 'thought police' set up by ex-MI6 agent is trying to keep a lid on Britain's simmering racial tensions

Oh look, that thing that definitely doesn't exist, does. It seems to do exactly what several posters on here have claimed it does.

Interesting that this "conspiracy" is more main stream now. More details than below in the linked article -

The name of the secretive Government propaganda unit trying to manipulate events makes it sound like an innocuous back-office operation – the Research, Information and Communications Unit, or RICU.

But the dull moniker is part of the deliberate camouflage of an outfit which uses deception and skulduggery to try to manage the 'challenges' of multiculturalism.

It has also been claimed that the unit intervenes to write statements by the families of victims of potentially racially linked incidents to stop them from inflaming tensions further with their remarks.

The source said: 'You can see their fingerprints all over the statements released by the families of victims in these volatile situations – they usually have a similar tone.'

Well worth a read. Many parts worth noting but the below in particular stood out to me for the sheer absurdity and awfulness of their work:

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Sir William wrote: 'The bar for what RICU includes on Islamism looks to be relatively high, whereas the bar for what is included on the extreme Right-wing is comparably low.'

By way of illustrating his point, in 2023 the unit identified viewing habits which it believed indicate that someone could be susceptible to far-Right views. These included Michael Portillo's Great British Railway Journeys, The Thick Of It and Yes Minister, all on the BBC. Works by Shakespeare, Chaucer and Milton were described as 'key texts' of interest to 'white nationalists/supremacists'.
If you know who Jim Hacker is or can quote the Miller's Tale, you might just be an ultra-nationalist White supremacist.

Or not.
 
I'm noticing it's getting harder to archive Times articles. I can scrape the html pretty good but not sure how I put that up here on the farms.

Anyway... here is the text of it -


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Dundee Girl, I’m sorry. We rushed to judge you​


The public shaming of an innocent 12-year-old portrayed as a feral racist is a salutary lesson for the media​



Iain Macwhirter

Sunday June 14 2026, 6.00pm, The Times

We columnists don’t like delivering apologies. It’s frowned upon by the Amalgamated Union of Pundits, Pontificators and Opinionated Trades.

But I feel duty-bound to make an apology to Sophie from Dundee, the 12-year-old girl whom I wrongly suspected of threatening and abusing an immigrant couple in the city’s Lochee area in August last year.


She was widely accused of calling Ilia Belov a “f***ing migrant” before brandishing a knife and an axe. It generated a classic Twitter storm of ignorant indignation.


We learnt last week that she was the one who was wronged. Ilia Belov, 22, was found guilty of assaulting Sophie (not her real name), causing a head injury. His sister, Nadjedzha Belova, 20, admitted assaulting the schoolgirl’s friend by pulling her hair, dragging her to the ground and striking her. The Bulgarian pair will be sentenced on August 5.

This is an extraordinary case — a morality tale for the social media age. We all saw the videos of the tiny “Dundee Girl” shouting at the immigrant pair, waving weapons you’d have thought her barely able to carry. It seemed like an open-and-shut case of feral teenage racism.

That’s pretty much what Police Scotland thought, too, and they issued an initial statement essentially portraying the girls as aggressors. “A Bulgarian couple were approached by youths in St Ann Lane, Dundee,” it said. “A 12-year-old girl has been charged with being in possession of offensive weapons.” Police also warned against “misinformation” on social media about grooming gangs and migrant attacks. “How wrong rabble-rousers Elon Musk and Tommy Robinson were,” claimed a Daily Mail headline.


The paper was referring to the right-wing groups on Twitter/X, who had portrayed Sophie as a patriotic Scot standing against the “Muslim invasion”. Memes portrayed her, blue-faced in tartan, as the “Dundee Braveheart Girl” defending Christian white culture against illegal immigration and grooming gangs.

This was, of course, nonsense. The Belovs were not illegals or asylum seekers, and they were certainly not invaders or a grooming gang. The Braveheart memes were appalling. But in our eagerness to reject the genuinely racist character of the meme-osphere, people like me ended up tacitly condemning Sophie for the same crime.

She was portrayed as “feral” — the very worst kind of Scottish ned: ignorant, racist, out of control. Sophie’s mother was bombarded with threats and abuse and wrongly called a “crackhead”. After a threat to firebomb her home, she sent Sophie into hiding with a relative.

Police Scotland have admitted that their initial statement “did not fully reflect the situation”. Indeed. And there is a reason for this: a presumption of racism that has become embedded in the police rule book since the days of the Macpherson Report on “institutional racism”. Officers have been under strict instructions to record every incident of alleged racism, whether or not there is any evidence for it.

Police Scotland’s definition of a hate incident is “any incident which is perceived by the victim, or any other person, to be motivated (wholly or partly) by malice and ill-will towards a social group”. There is no requirement of evidence and the “victim” has to be believed. This is what is often called “two-tier” policing.

We saw this presumption of racism play out shockingly in the murder of Henry Nowak — the Southampton student handcuffed and arrested while he was dying from stab wounds inflicted by his Sikh assailant, who stood nearby falsely claiming to have been racially abused. Police officers have been programmed to believe, initially at least, any accusation of racism. Their jobs depend on it.

There are disturbing echoes of what happened with Sophie, though of course she was not murdered. We rushed to judge her as having been the assailant, not the victim. Like the police, we have been programmed to assume that a confrontation between a white working-class girl and immigrants must involve racism.

Indeed, I think we need to congratulate the Scottish justice system and especially Sheriff Tim Niven-Smith in Dundee sheriff court for getting to the truth of this affair. He said he was satisfied, “beyond reasonable doubt”, that the siblings had been the assailants here and he rejected their claim of self-defence. Sheriff Niven-Smith even congratulated Sophie on her “eloquent” testimony.

This was not an easy adjudication to make in the current febrile climate on race. Had it not been for CCTV evidence showing Nadjedzha Belova dragging and kicking Sophie’s friend, the verdict might have been very different.

As happens all too often when the press are caught with their pants down, the exoneration of the Dundee Girl has received rather less coverage than the assault itself. There has been an embarrassed silence, especially from the Daily Mail, which is usually all over stories about “two-tier” policing. There has been tumbleweed blowing across X, even from the “white power” people.

This is strange, because in journalistic terms this is simply a great story: a real “underdog vindicated” tale, complete with courtroom drama. Were editors afraid they might be accused of encouraging violence in the streets if they amplified this ruling? There’s been no shortage of that anyway as the right and left square up to each other in Glasgow.

Moreover, the case still involves awkward questions. I mean, what was a 12-year-old girl doing walking around with a deadly knife and an axe in the first place? Do pubescent girls feel the need to be armed to the teeth when they venture into Scotland’s housing estates?

I don’t want to appear to criticise Sophie’s mother, who has been through an ordeal. But are Scottish parents aware that some of their children are walking around with a bloodthirsty arsenal in their jeans?

It remains the case that the Braveheart Girl memes on Twitter/X were often racist and universally ill-informed. It was claimed that Sophie had been a victim of grooming gangs, the mainly Muslim networks that have abused white working-class girls in northern English towns on an industrial scale for several decades. The Belovs may have made sexually motivated comments, “Hey sexy,” etc, but they weren’t Pakistani taxi drivers luring them with drugs.


This affair tells us a lot about the state of race relations and policing, and about attitudes to working-class girls. Perhaps we need someone to dramatise it on TV if only to remind us about the oldest lesson in the journalism book: appearances can deceive.

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It's an interesting 'editorial' piece from the very 'far-right' Times Newspaper.

Like Jewish Bobby used to sing: Oh the times, they are a changin'...


Turns out she was not totally unjustified:


A man has been found guilty of making sexual remarks to a group of girls aged between 12 and 14 in Dundee before grabbing and pushing one of them to the ground.

Ilia Belov, 22, claimed he confronted the girls after receiving abusive remarks and said he saw one of the girls with a knife in her waistband before the assault.

His sister Nadjedzha Belova, 20, previously admitted assaulting a 13-year-old girl by seizing and pulling her hair, dragging her to the ground, and striking her on the head to her injury during the incident.

The pair will be sentenced at Dundee Sheriff Court on 5 August.





20 year old pakis / nogs / mystery meats, beating on just turned 'teen girls. We all know what the age differential is like at that age, even a year or two older and you are 'outgunned'. I can only think they thought they could get away with it, if they did get caught, by playing the race card. That ship has sailed now...
 
Just top up them TOR and VPN skills a bit.
Yea let me just download a vpn. Proton is good right? Ok let me just go to proton's vpn. Oh. It needs an account? Huh? Ok. Well how do I make an account? I have to make a proton account? No problems. Oh their dot onion site doesn't fucking work? Great. And even if you use the dot com one you have to use a 'proper' backup like your phone or another email to 'verify'. And this is meant to be a privacy focused service? That's cool. The entire fucking internet is impossible to simply just use. There is no entry point. To get in to anything you need to already be in something else. And that something else needs you to be in something else. And so on. You can't just make an account. You can't just go in as your first action. You can't jump in fresh. You have to start from somewhere else. And that somewhere else always leads back in some manner to your fucking real address and phone number.
 
I'm noticing it's getting harder to archive Times articles.
Same with me with the Guardian and sometimes Daily Mail online versions too, they're getting fucky wucky, I think it's a cookie thing because it just works if I cache clear and switch VPNs.
archive.is tends to get best results https://archive.is/qGVtr
Yea let me just download a vpn. Proton is good right? Ok let me just go to proton's vpn. Oh. It needs an account? Huh? Ok. Well how do I make an account? I have to make a proton account? No problems. Oh their dot onion site doesn't fucking work? Great. And even if you use the dot com one you have to use a 'proper' backup like your phone or another email to 'verify'. And this is meant to be a privacy focused service? That's cool. The entire fucking internet is impossible to simply just use. There is no entry point. To get in to anything you need to already be in something else. And that something else needs you to be in something else. And so on. You can't just make an account. You can't just go in as your first action. You can't jump in fresh. You have to start from somewhere else. And that somewhere else always leads back in some manner to your fucking real address and phone number.
N'wah just buy MullVad, it just works.
 
A thread on connecting to the Farms from the UK sounds like a good idea.
I used TOR during the Fong times and now I have a VPN but when our cunt ridden government takes the next step I'm going to be out of ideas. Half the people on here seem to be full on autastic nerds who talk in WiFi packets or something but there's a few of us who could use advice on breaking the future laws.
Learn how to use a package manager. The government are retarded so they’ll probably try blocking websites that you download exes from first.

Ideally you should be doing this on a normieproof Linux distro like Mint since you’ll have more control over updating your machine and a lot of age gate related bullshit will be harder to enforce there, but if you still want to be a winbaby Windows has its own package manager you can install called Winget and I’m pretty sure Tor and Wireguard are both on there. Once you have it you can just type “winget install tor” in the command prompt and it will download and install tor for you.

If they block VPN websites or purchases you can send an envelope of cash in the mail to Mullvad with a piece of paper that has your account number on it, then use Wireguard to connect to Mullvad’s servers. If they start blocking known VPN connections you’re gonna have to rent a VPS in a foreign data centre somewhere and use Wireguard to create your own end point to connect to. There’s a tutorial on how to do that here.

Also, you should get an external hard drive to store installers and executables of your forbidden warez. And a USB to turn into a live USB of a non-pozzed operating system that you can boot from in case of emergencies - I’d go with Tails for maximum privacy schizo potential, or Slackware for something with more day-to-day utilities and hardware compatibility (Tails can sometimes be a bit fussy in that regard).

For an absolute worst case scenario it might also be useful for you to learn how to use PGP encryption (both Tails and Slackware come with Kleopatra preinstalled I believe). The darknet directory tor taxi has some tutorials on this in their “information” section, you’ll need to actually be using tor to access them though, even though the homepage itself doesn’t require it.
 
Yea let me just download a vpn. Proton is good right? Ok let me just go to proton's vpn. Oh. It needs an account? Huh? Ok. Well how do I make an account? I have to make a proton account? No problems. Oh their dot onion site doesn't fucking work? Great. And even if you use the dot com one you have to use a 'proper' backup like your phone or another email to 'verify'. And this is meant to be a privacy focused service? That's cool. The entire fucking internet is impossible to simply just use. There is no entry point. To get in to anything you need to already be in something else. And that something else needs you to be in something else. And so on. You can't just make an account. You can't just go in as your first action. You can't jump in fresh. You have to start from somewhere else. And that somewhere else always leads back in some manner to your fucking real address and phone number.
Just create burner gmail accounts using fake names
 
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