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A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[DreinMeinVein]

I don't know who said it, but "the longer these problems aren't fixed, the uglier the solutions get."

I'm not sure who said that, but it's true.

Donald Kingsbury: "Tradition is a set of solutions for which we have forgotten the problems."

I've quoted this line before, but this is the reason why borders have always existed and been enforced. Everywhere and always.
It's why breaking of borders has traditionally been dealt with as an act of war; a load of people with strange beliefs will not settle well into our country.

It's also why we have never been keen on the mass promotion of homos, and it's why we have a deep disgust reaction to trannies. Venereal disease and sex pests are bad for society. In our souls we know why we've always done things that way.

Spoiler: The Welshman

This thread moves quickly. I miss out on some parts of the conversation. What did MadeInWales do to get himself exiled? I only remember him as someone who posted news links.

 

[Chunky Salsa]

MadeInWales do to get himself exiled?

He kept going on and on about how Farage is amazing, then had a melty when people called him retarded for it. Then had another melty and said people were coming to kill him, then demanded that Null acknowledge Farage as the true Fuhrer because Farage will "Get rid of offcom.". He's a self confessed Reform party apparatchik, and has absolutely chugged the koolaid. Older guy as well, so there's really no getting through to him sadly. He also isn't exiled IIRC. He's just refusing to post, because every time he does people laugh at him and he has a wobbly.

 

[Tony Martin's Force Ghost]

It's going to be tight, but I doubt he loses it in the by-election (I expect him to lose it in a GE, though... not that it matters, given Labour don't really stand a chance of winning that election anyway). I think it would take Restore standing down and directing their voters to Reform for Burnham to lose it - which seems an impossibility at this stage.

I'm interested to know what would happen if he loses the by-election, though; would he go back to being mayor, or would he face significant pressure to stand down?

See, that is what got me thinking. We know that Restore is doing well there as Reform is somewhat spooked and is seemingly regretting their candidate choice. It just feels like LPL is preparing for option B rather than option A. I think personally, in the next week or so, Cooper and Mahmood will leave the cabinet to save their hides, as anyone attached to Starmer is toxic. Reeves knows this and is doubling down as she knows she is fucked.

 

[diroama]

I think Burnham will win at a canter. 45%. Reform 25%. Restore 10%. Cue arguments about splitting the right wing votes.

 

[Heinrich Maneuver]

Cooper and Mahmood will leave the cabinet to save their hides, as anyone attached to Starmer is toxic. Reeves knows this and is doubling down as she knows she is fucked

I've seen a million 'YVETTE IS GOING' rumours today. With Kemi allegedly talking about a Tory-Reform coalition (quiz question; what's the difference between the two parties), what are the chances of a VoNC?

ETA: something is going down in East Kilbride; ast night protestors allegedly tried to get into a migrant hotel, a 'decent turnout' (X). There is a migrant riot breaking out at an IPA centre in Dublin. Stoke on trent and Sheffield have videos of disturbances too.

 

[Polska krowa]

See, that is what got me thinking. We know that Restore is doing well there as Reform is somewhat spooked and is seemingly regretting their candidate choice. It just feels like LPL is preparing for option B rather than option A. I think personally, in the next week or so, Cooper and Mahmood will leave the cabinet to save their hides, as anyone attached to Starmer is toxic. Reeves knows this and is doubling down as she knows she is fucked.

Restore is doing well, but not a-real-chance-of-winning-the-seat well. Further cabinet resignations or general chaos in the Labour Party don't really affect Burnham, since people are mainly voting for him because they want him to become the new leader.

 

[No-Eyed Square Guy]

I legitimately don't know what point that word salad is trying to make, what the fuck does that have to do with pension spending?

The entire history of your government is a conspiracy against "itself" (the native people). From deep in the wreckage of your nation you cry out for punishment of the few white citizens who innocently benefit from the system (pensioners, cripples, etc).

Is how I take it.

It's the right critique of Restore-ism, which despite all other rhetoric prioritizes "my tax dollars"—a party-man shibboleth you'll now notice—over the people (white), to whom it with almost sexual relish promises "pain" (another party shibboleth).

 

[Chunky Salsa]

pain

I do think that we're in for some pain. Pushing the 'fix everything' button will also blow up the economy. I really think people need to be accepting of this. Our economy is made of smoke, bullshit and fairy dust. It exists because we act like it exists - as nation - and when we act like it doesn't, and have to reorient away from line go up sloppism, it will have a meltdown. We don't make enough food, we don't make enough power, we don't make enough fuel, and we don't produce much of actual value.

I still wanna press the button tho.

 

[Betonhaus]

I do think that we're in for some pain. Pushing the 'fix everything' button will also blow up the economy. I really think people need to be accepting of this. Our economy is made of smoke, bullshit and fairy dust. It exists because we act like it exists - as nation - and when we act like it doesn't, and have to reorient away from line go up sloppism, it will have a meltdown. We don't make enough food, we don't make enough power, we don't make enough fuel, and we don't produce much of actual value.

I still wanna press the button tho.

It’ll blow up half the economy. Government would be forced to cut back their hostile red tape making it difficult to impossible to grow your own food or to tap into local oil resources, and as production of things move closer to home (even if it’s just a cottage industry of cannibalizing and fixing broken equipment) things will eventually get better.

It’s just, the sooner the collapse happens the easier it’ll be as we will still have enough stuff that can be made or fixed locally. It’s still relatively easy to find a 2010 ish car that can be repaired without it being locked down by computers and crap, for example.

 

[Inquisitor_BadAss]

I do think that we're in for some pain. Pushing the 'fix everything' button will also blow up the economy. I really think people need to be accepting of this. Our economy is made of smoke, bullshit and fairy dust. It exists because we act like it exists - as nation - and when we act like it doesn't, and have to reorient away from line go up sloppism, it will have a meltdown. We don't make enough food, we don't make enough power, we don't make enough fuel, and we don't produce much of actual value.

I still wanna press the button tho.

Even if it means I'm harvesting wheat by hand all of hours of the day then let it happen.

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

Restore is doing well, but not a-real-chance-of-winning-the-seat well.

Burnham will win the Makerfield seat, that was never really in doubt. Reform will lose by close enough that Farage will whine that Reform standing cost them the vote.

 

[Swerf'n'Terf]

I think Burnham will win at a canter. 45%. Reform 25%. Restore 10%. Cue arguments about splitting the right wing votes.

With those numbers splitting the vote becomes irrelevant because Burnham still wins even if you give every Restore vote to Reform.

Labour recently leaked internal canvassing results (obviously consider the source) which put it as Lab 35% / Reform 24% /Restore 13%. That would mean Labour are down almost 25% compared to initial polling and Reform are down almost 50%. Daily Mail

Nigel is looking extremely stressed the last couple of days. This is not the look of a man who's happy with his decisions.

Spoiler: Videos

 

[BrightonAndHoveAlbion]

Burnham will win the Makerfield seat, that was never really in doubt. Reform will lose by close enough that Farage will whine that Reform standing cost them the vote.

This is like the old 'vote UKIP get Labour' meme that went around for years. A lot of people probably still don't consider Restore so it's excellent PR for them if they do end up splitting the vote. UKIP/Farage managed to get a lot of change without ever really getting close to power; perhaps Restore can follow the same playbook.

 

[BongoMongo]

With those numbers splitting the vote becomes irrelevant because Burnham still wins even if you give every Restore vote to Reform.

Labour recently leaked internal canvassing results (obviously consider the source) which put it as Lab 35% / Reform 24% /Restore 13%. That would mean Labour are down almost 25% compared to initial polling and Reform are down almost 50%. Daily Mail

Nigel is looking extremely stressed the last couple of days. This is not the look of a man who's happy with his decisions.
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Spoiler: Videos

Farage 01.mp4
Farge 2.mp4

Maybe it's to do with fact his pal Jenrick is the one whose oversight allowed the Belfast beheader to have indefinite leave to remain in the country.

 

[Unregistered HyperCam]

 

[teriyakiburns]

Labour recently leaked internal canvassing results (obviously consider the source) which put it as Lab 35% / Reform 24% /Restore 13%. That would mean Labour are down almost 25% compared to initial polling and Reform are down almost 50%. Daily Mail

Restore were on 9% last week. That's put them in third place, from not even existing a year ago. If they keep up that momentum, they're replacing reform before the year is out.

 

[GratsTheat783]

..mp4

Average conversation with a migrant.

 

[Otterly]

pension spending?

My parents are early boomers. Grew up in abject poverty, no electricity, outside toilets. Worked from 15 and 16, never went to uni, brought us all up, and now have a small house paid off and a pension. I bregrudge them nothing. They worked, they paid in. They deserve looking after.
Someone crippled in a pit accident deserves looking after. Soldiers injured deserve looking after. We can do that, we are spending fucking billions a year on migrants in hotels and if we stopped spending money on translators, NHS care for them, hotels and just prevented them from landing, we could look after our old, our weak, OUR vulnerable.
We are a fucking island. We should be a fortress. None of these people are swimming here, we should have absolute control of our borders. That we don’t is treason.

Donald Kingsbury: "Tradition is a set of solutions for which we have forgotten the problems."

absolutely correct and something I really believe - all those taboos and ‘old fashioned’ social rules had a reason.

 

[The Silent Perjority]

We are a fucking island. We should be a fortress. None of these people are swimming here, we should have absolute control of our borders. That we don’t is treason.

A fucking men Mrs O.

 

[James X Maxwell]

My parents are early boomers. Grew up in abject poverty, no electricity, outside toilets. Worked from 15 and 16, never went to uni, brought us all up, and now have a small house paid off and a pension. I bregrudge them nothing. They worked, they paid in. They deserve looking after.
Someone crippled in a pit accident deserves looking after. Soldiers injured deserve looking after. We can do that, we are spending fucking billions a year on migrants in hotels and if we stopped spending money on translators, NHS care for them, hotels and just prevented them from landing, we could look after our old, our weak, OUR vulnerable.
We are a fucking island. We should be a fortress. None of these people are swimming here, we should have absolute control of our borders. That we don’t is treason.

absolutely correct and something I really believe - all those taboos and ‘old fashioned’ social rules had a reason.

I hope they sell the house and spend all of the money on cruise ships and scratch cards
The true english boomer way